Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-15 Thread Roman Divacky
LLVM by default turns these: case LibFunc::copysign: case LibFunc::copysignf: case LibFunc::copysignl: case LibFunc::fabs: case LibFunc::fabsf: case LibFunc::fabsl: case LibFunc::sin: case LibFunc::sinf: case LibFunc::sinl: case LibFunc::cos: case

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-15 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On 15-09-2012 03:06, Steve Kargl wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 05:18:08PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: A third class of failure appears to be that clang emits i387 fpu instructions for at least sinf and cosf instead of calls to the library routines. AFAIK, the library routines are faster and

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-15 Thread Roman Divacky
Fwiw, this seems to have been fixed as of a few minutes ago. http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20120910/150720.html Steve, can you please test llvm/clang from (their) svn and report back? We can import a newer snapshot if all is ok. Thank you. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-15 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On 15-09-2012 14:48, Roman Divacky wrote: Fwiw, this seems to have been fixed as of a few minutes ago. http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20120910/150720.html Steve, can you please test llvm/clang from (their) svn and report back? We can import a newer snapshot if

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-15 Thread Roman Divacky
Is this correct? lev ~$ ./cos 1.23456789e20 6.031937e-01 -9.629173e-02 2.814722e-01 If so I believe the issue is fixed. On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 03:48:38PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On 15-09-2012 14:48, Roman Divacky wrote: Fwiw, this seems to have been fixed as of a few minutes ago.

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-14 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:10:24AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:32:12AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:08 -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: In regards to my initial post in this thread, I was just trying to assess whether any benchmarks have been

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 03:23:19PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:10:24AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: ok 1 - cexp zero Abort trap (core dumped) *** [tests] Error code 134 Stop in /usr/src/tools/regression/lib/msun. Prompted by this post, I did a bit of testing

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 05:18:08PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: A third class of failure appears to be that clang emits i387 fpu instructions for at least sinf and cosf instead of calls to the library routines. AFAIK, the library routines are faster and more accurate. Yep. Clang has

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-13 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 08:21:31AM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: On 2012-Sep-11, 23:29, Doug Barton wrote: What we need to do is what I and others have been asking to do for years. We need to designate a modern version of gcc (no less than 4.6) as the official default ports compiler, and

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-13 Thread Ian Lepore
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:08 -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: In regards to my initial post in this thread, I was just trying to assess whether any benchmarks have been performed on FreeBSD for floating point generated by clang. Other than the limited testing that I've done, it appears that the

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-13 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:32:12AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:08 -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: In regards to my initial post in this thread, I was just trying to assess whether any benchmarks have been performed on FreeBSD for floating point generated by clang. Other

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:27:50AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: At the moment the ports maintainers don't give much about if their ports build with CLANG or not because they're not forced to. I think this is a mis-representation. Adding the requirement your ports must work on clang is adding an

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/11/2012 02:52 AM, Erik Cederstrand wrote: So can we do a sweep on the ports tree and mark the 2232 ports with USE_GCC=4.2 until they can actually build with clang? Unfortunately it isn't that simple. We already have a statistically significant number of ports that don't even compile with

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/11/2012 11:15 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:27:50AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: At the moment the ports maintainers don't give much about if their ports build with CLANG or not because they're not forced to. I think this is a mis-representation. Adding the

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Erik Cederstrand
Den 12/09/2012 kl. 11.29 skrev Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org: On 09/11/2012 02:52 AM, Erik Cederstrand wrote: So can we do a sweep on the ports tree and mark the 2232 ports with USE_GCC=4.2 until they can actually build with clang? Unfortunately it isn't that simple. We already have a

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread David Chisnall
On 12 Sep 2012, at 10:09, Doug Barton wrote: Also, users who actually are helping with testing clang for ports continue to report runtime problems, even with things that build fine. I hope that you are encouraging maintainers of ports that don't work as expected with clang to submit bug

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012, Erik Cederstrand wrote: So can we do a sweep on the ports tree and mark the 2232 ports with USE_GCC=4.2 until they can actually build with clang? This could allow the clang switch to proceed. Hopefully, waiting for GCC to compile just to install some tiny port will be

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread David Chisnall
I'd add one more thing that needs fixing: Clang should default to c89 mode when invoked as cc. I had a patch to do this, but I seem to have misplaced it. I'll try to find or rewrite it in the next couple of days. A lot of the ports failures I saw were due to ports using cc as the default C

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread David Chisnall
On 11 Sep 2012, at 09:18, Dimitry Andric wrote: So I am a bit reluctant to change clang's default standard to c89, unless clang upstream agrees with this. In the interest of prodding people to update their software, I would rather have the default stay c99, personally. :) I'm not proposing

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:54:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: As of last week, 4,680 ports out of 23,857 failed to build with clang on 9-amd64. That's almost a 20% failure rate. Until we have better support for either building ports with clang, or have better support for the idea of a ports

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/11/2012 02:27 AM, Lars Engels wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:54:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: As of last week, 4,680 ports out of 23,857 failed to build with clang on 9-amd64. That's almost a 20% failure rate. Until we have better support for either building ports with clang, or have

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:12:07PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: [Please confine your replies to toolch...@freebsd.org to keep the thread on the most relevant list.] I do not see how removing current@ can be done, toolchain@ is not relevant for this discussion. Proposed is not a local change in the

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Roman Divacky
tl;dr: Clang will become the default compiler for x86 architectures on 2012-11-04 There was a chorus of voices talking about ports already. My POV is that suggesting to 'fix remaining ports to work with clang' is just a nonsense. You are proposing to fork the development of all the

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Roman Divacky
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:21:22PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:06:49PM +0200, Roman Divacky wrote: tl;dr: Clang will become the default compiler for x86 architectures on 2012-11-04 There was a chorus of voices talking about ports already. My POV

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Erik Cederstrand
Roman, Den 11/09/2012 kl. 14.38 skrev Roman Divacky rdiva...@freebsd.org: Upstream developers almost never use gcc4.2.1 as we do. So right now the ports maintainer must check whats wrong in the case the (upgraded) port doesnt compile with our in-tree gcc. It can be trivial

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:45:18PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:12:07PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: For the past several years we've been working towards migrating from GCC to Clang/LLVM as our default compiler. We intend to ship FreeBSD 10.0 with Clang as

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-09-11 15:24, Steve Kargl wrote: ... How fast clang builds world in comparison to gcc is irrelevant. Not at all irrelevant: this proposal is about changing the default compiler for the FreeBSD system itself, not for all software out there. If certain software performs significantly

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Michael Butler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/12 09:44, Christer Solskogen wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: Interest twist of history. GCC is not abandonware. Correct, but GCC 4.2.1 is. While this may be true, I'm not

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On 11-09-2012 16:10, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-09-11 15:24, Steve Kargl wrote: What is important is whether software built with clang functions correctly. See for example, http://math-atlas.sourceforge.net/errata.html#WhatComp Yes, maths support, specifically precision, is admittedly

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Rees
On 11 Sep 2012 13:22, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:06:49PM +0200, Roman Divacky wrote: tl;dr: Clang will become the default compiler for x86 architectures on 2012-11-04 There was a chorus of voices talking about ports already. My POV is

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-09-11 16:27, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On 11-09-2012 16:10, Dimitry Andric wrote: ... Yes, maths support, specifically precision, is admittedly still one of clang's (really llvm's) weaker points. It is currently not really a high priority item for upstream. This is obviously something

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: snip Can you, please, read what I wrote ? Fixing _ports_ to compile with clang is plain wrong. Upstream developers use gcc almost always for development and testing. Establishing another constant cost on the

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:10:13PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-09-11 15:24, Steve Kargl wrote: ... How fast clang builds world in comparison to gcc is irrelevant. Not at all irrelevant: this proposal is about changing the default compiler for the FreeBSD system itself, not for all

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:27:55PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On 11-09-2012 16:10, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-09-11 15:24, Steve Kargl wrote: What is important is whether software built with clang functions correctly. See for example,

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:06:49PM +0200, Roman Divacky wrote: We currently dont compile 4680 ports (out of 23857). Top 10 ports that prevent the most other ports from compiling together prevent ports from compilation. So if we fixed those

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Roman Divacky
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 08:12:30AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:27:55PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On 11-09-2012 16:10, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-09-11 15:24, Steve Kargl wrote: What is important is whether software built with clang functions correctly.

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:14:09PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: Clang produces incorrect code vs Clang's floating point has issues are two different arguments. Wow. clang produces incorrect floating point code, and that's somehow just an issue with floating point. For a mathematical

Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-10 Thread Brooks Davis
[Please confine your replies to toolch...@freebsd.org to keep the thread on the most relevant list.] For the past several years we've been working towards migrating from GCC to Clang/LLVM as our default compiler. We intend to ship FreeBSD 10.0 with Clang as the default compiler on i386 and amd64

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-10 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Brooks Davis wrote: [Please confine your replies to toolch...@freebsd.org to keep the thread on the most relevant list.] For the past several years we've been working towards migrating from GCC to Clang/LLVM as our default compiler. We intend to ship FreeBSD 10.0 with

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-10 Thread Chuck Burns
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Brooks Davis bro...@freebsd.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 05:22:37PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Brooks Davis wrote: [Please confine your replies to toolch...@freebsd.org to keep the thread on the most relevant list.] For the

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-10 Thread matt
On 09/10/12 14:22, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Brooks Davis wrote: [Please confine your replies to toolch...@freebsd.org to keep the thread on the most relevant list.] For the past several years we've been working towards migrating from GCC to Clang/LLVM as our default