Re: some interesting observations on the relative performance of kvm vs. bhyve

2014-02-01 Thread Peter Grehan
Hi Aryeh, Does this bring up the same power failure scenario issues mentioned in the link you provided?It seems like the only way to get reasonable performance is to be essentially unsafe in guest writes to the host disk? Use ZFS and a ZIL to mitigate this. Or UFS with journalling. A qu

RFC: hyperv disk i/o performance vs. data integrity

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Disclaimer: This is more of a thinking out loud then it is an definative set of suggestions on the matter. Also a cleaned up version of this will likely become PetiteCloud's white paper on storage and disaster recovery. I do not make any promises to when any of it might be implemented and/or if i

Re: some interesting observations on the relative performance of kvm vs. bhyve

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: > > I have 1 host that dual boots FreeBSD and Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and bhtyve > >> seems to be atleast 3 or 4 times faster with disk I/O then kvm using the >> most stripped down command lines I can come up with. >> > > I'm guessing that the defa

Re: some interesting observations on the relative performance of kvm vs. bhyve

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: > > I have 1 host that dual boots FreeBSD and Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and bhtyve > >> seems to be atleast 3 or 4 times faster with disk I/O then kvm using the >> most stripped down command lines I can come up with. >> > > I'm guessing that the defa

Re: some interesting observations on the relative performance of kvm vs. bhyve

2014-02-01 Thread Peter Grehan
> I have 1 host that dual boots FreeBSD and Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and bhtyve seems to be atleast 3 or 4 times faster with disk I/O then kvm using the most stripped down command lines I can come up with. I'm guessing that the default cache mode for qemu in that release is "none". You may want to

some interesting observations on the relative performance of kvm vs. bhyve

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I have 1 host that dual boots FreeBSD and Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and bhtyve seems to be atleast 3 or 4 times faster with disk I/O then kvm using the most stripped down command lines I can come up with. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org __

who should I report this to?

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Under kvm (ubuntu 12.04.03 LTS) when logged in via VNC and installing 10-RELEASE the installer just boots you during the disk initialization phase. Who should this be reported to? -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org ___ fr

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Just an example of this then I will be quiet and take my frustration out on inanimate objects which what kind of hair brained unix like OS would not come with a working C compiler (ubuntu does not come with one) On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I forgot how frustrating Lin

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I forgot how frustrating Linux can be (FB really spoils you) until just today when I started to really play with it for petitecloud development reasons instead of making "cute toys" like the how to install DevStack tutorial On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Frédéric Alix wrote: > Yes, i saw this t

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Frédéric Alix
Yes, i saw this two days ago. I read it and take many notes. 2014-02-01 Aryeh Friedman : > Just a small tip if your new to FreeBSD you might surprised that 90% of > the real action happens in mailling lists not web based things. Namely > -virtualization@ is likely your best long term resource

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Just a small tip if your new to FreeBSD you might surprised that 90% of the real action happens in mailling lists not web based things. Namely -virtualization@ is likely your best long term resource as you learn. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Frédéric Alix wrote: > | I am also looking into t

Re: [maybe spam] Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Frédéric Alix
Oh super ! Thx !!! \o/ 2014-02-01 Julian Elischer : > On 2/1/14, 6:44 PM, Frédéric Alix wrote: > >> | I am also looking into this but I think you will find the FB has almost >> everything you need right out of the box >> >> yes, you should right. I am reading the FB handbook and many blogs for

Re: [maybe spam] Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/1/14, 6:44 PM, Frédéric Alix wrote: | I am also looking into this but I think you will find the FB has almost everything you need right out of the box yes, you should right. I am reading the FB handbook and many blogs for learn how run *BSD After 13 years in Solaris world, it's a big change

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I very like bhyve and the new iSCSI seem to be great too. > The fact that bhyve does not attempt to manage the iSCSI directly is a real win here IMO for example see http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_introduction-to-openstack-compute.html#section_nova-disaster-recovery-processf

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Frédéric Alix
| I am also looking into this but I think you will find the FB has almost everything you need right out of the box yes, you should right. I am reading the FB handbook and many blogs for learn how run *BSD After 13 years in Solaris world, it's a big change to me. I very like bhyve and the new iSCSI

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Frédéric Alix wrote: > Few minutes ago i read this: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-10-2013-12.html#FreeBSD-Host-Support-for-OpenStack-and-OpenContrail > > Hum... OpenContrail port .. :p > I am not interesting by OpenStack but OpenContrail, of c

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Frédéric Alix
Few minutes ago i read this: http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-10-2013-12.html#FreeBSD-Host-Support-for-OpenStack-and-OpenContrail Hum... OpenContrail port .. :p I am not interesting by OpenStack but OpenContrail, of course ! After a little search, i found this: http://opencontr

Re: Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Hello Frederic, This is an interesting question. Funny thing is in the past day I had the same doubt, but after some minutes I realized FreeBSD already has everything that is needed to handle a "virtualization network" by itself. Obviously what's missing is some kind of GUI or guided path to do

Bhyve and network virtualization

2014-02-01 Thread Frédéric Alix
Hi ! I am learning how use bhyve and actullay, it's a real pleasure to use it :-) I would like build a virtual infra in a box. Many bhyve vm for each services. Firewalls, routers, dns, app serv, databases serv, ... For this, bhyve is just perfect. Now, i need a tool for build a virtual network, li