Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
The NDISulator is a crutch from a time when there wasn't _any_ real alternative. There are plenty of alternatives now. What's lacking is desire and person-power. But the datasheets are there, or the vendor code has been released, or there's linux/otherbsd drivers. Leaving it in there is just dela

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
"Andrey V. Elsukov" wrote: > I'm agree. While there are still some devices without native drivers, > but that work via NDISulator, we should keep it. Yes, best keep it while it helps some people. Adrian Chadd wrote: > It's honestly about time that these were updated, fixed and/or ported to >

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 21 October 2013 12:59, Andrey V. Elsukov wrote: > On 19.10.2013 10:01, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I too would like to see more effort writing new Ethernet and wifi > > drivers and porting from other operating systems. > > > > But I would like to keep the NDISulator/NDISwrapper as a fallback. >

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-21 Thread Andrey V. Elsukov
On 19.10.2013 10:01, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I too would like to see more effort writing new Ethernet and wifi > drivers and porting from other operating systems. > > But I would like to keep the NDISulator/NDISwrapper as a fallback. > > There are still wifi adapters, Ethernet too, where there is

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2013-10-21 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
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