Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4-desktop

2020-10-05 Thread Olivier Duchateau
Le Mon, 5 Oct 2020 20:13:22 +0100,
Christopher Tipper  a écrit :

> I noticed a curiosity in the xdg/xfce4/xinitrc using a call to linux
> systemd to activate dbus it does not look like this file has been
> patched for freebsd compatibility
> 
> I notice that the FreeBSD Handbook at
> 
> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html
> (last section on configuring Xfce)
> 
> asks the user to install this file either as .xinitrc or .xsession
> 
> An unsuspecting user following the Handbook is going to have an
> unpleasant surprise.
> 
> Christopher Tipper
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Hi,

xinitrc file works fine under FreeBSD, it does not required to be
patched.

The Handbook is very outdated. I'm planning to submit an update for the
next stable release (4.16).

If you want to launch your session:

1. Add dbus_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf

2. Add a login manager (LightDM is recommended application)
Xfce is gettext compliant, so if you want a session with your locale,
you must create (or update) file located in
/var/db/AccountsService/users/

This file matches your login account. It contains these following lines:
[User]
Language=your preferred locale (accountsservice understands only UTF-8,
e.g. fr_FR.UTF-8)
Session=xfce (in fact any files in /usr/local/share/xsessions/)
XSession=(optional, same value above)
SystemAccount=false

xinitrc file is required for Xdm, Slim or without login manager. With
LightDM is not necessary.

Note: Even if LightDM is a cross-desktop display manager, gnome-shell
does not work, it needs Gdm!

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FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4-desktop

2020-10-05 Thread Christopher Tipper
I noticed a curiosity in the xdg/xfce4/xinitrc using a call to linux systemd to 
activate dbus it does not look like this file has been patched for freebsd 
compatibility

I notice that the FreeBSD Handbook at

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html (last 
section on configuring Xfce)

asks the user to install this file either as .xinitrc or .xsession

An unsuspecting user following the Handbook is going to have an unpleasant 
surprise.

Christopher Tipper

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2020-02-29 Thread Guido Falsi
On 29/02/20 16:27, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> 
> On 29/02/2020 06:35, Guido Falsi wrote:
>> On 29/02/20 01:06, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>> Hello;
>>>
>>> I've recently tried Xfce, and it's very nice. Just thought I'd suggest,
>>> please set this file as executable:
>>>
>>> /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
>>>
>>> I ended up doing chmod +x to that file in order to get it working in
>>> xinit.
>> I'll have a look at that.
>>
>> I'm using xfce from a display manager (lightdm) so I'm not using that
>> file.
> 
> Ah yes, for the record I am following the handbook:
> 
> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html
> 
> Where it says "Unlike GNOME or KDE, Xfce does not provide its own login
> manager ..."

While it's technically correct most linux distributions providing XFCE
as a default pair it with lightdm, so, with the latest update to 4.14, I
made lightdm it's default display manager in the metaport.

You should give it a spin.

> 
>>> While here, I am having trouble as both mouse and the keyboard stop
>>> working in X. Curiously both worked find in KDE.
>> Maybe this is caused by the recent Xorg-server port change from devd
>> baackend to udev backend?
> 
> It's likely. I had it working at a time but the up arrow key stopped
> working after the update. I then removed all the packages and started
> from scratch.
> 
> 
>> If that's the case the solution if installing xf86-input-evdev and
>> restarting Xorg.
> 
> That was certainly missing but I might have missed some configuration,
> as it still doesn't work.
> 
> I also lost the acceleration (ati-legacy) with the update. I'll figure
> it out ;).
> 
>> BTW xf86-input-evdev should be a dependency of the xorg-drivers
>> metaport, so maybe forcing a reinstallation of that one will fix the
>> issue.
> 
> I started using xorg-minimal which explains some missing stuff.
> 

I don't know the details about sorg-minimal, but yes the migration to
udev may require some reconfiguration, especially if you have a
customized setup.

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2020-02-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni



On 29/02/2020 06:35, Guido Falsi wrote:

On 29/02/20 01:06, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hello;

I've recently tried Xfce, and it's very nice. Just thought I'd suggest,
please set this file as executable:

/usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc

I ended up doing chmod +x to that file in order to get it working in xinit.

I'll have a look at that.

I'm using xfce from a display manager (lightdm) so I'm not using that file.


Ah yes, for the record I am following the handbook:

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html

Where it says "Unlike GNOME or KDE, Xfce does not provide its own login 
manager ..."



While here, I am having trouble as both mouse and the keyboard stop
working in X. Curiously both worked find in KDE.

Maybe this is caused by the recent Xorg-server port change from devd
baackend to udev backend?


It's likely. I had it working at a time but the up arrow key stopped 
working after the update. I then removed all the packages and started 
from scratch.




If that's the case the solution if installing xf86-input-evdev and
restarting Xorg.


That was certainly missing but I might have missed some configuration, 
as it still doesn't work.


I also lost the acceleration (ati-legacy) with the update. I'll figure 
it out ;).



BTW xf86-input-evdev should be a dependency of the xorg-drivers
metaport, so maybe forcing a reinstallation of that one will fix the issue.


I started using xorg-minimal which explains some missing stuff.

Thanks anyways!

Pedro.

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2020-02-29 Thread Olivier Duchateau
Le Sat, 29 Feb 2020 12:35:13 +0100,
Guido Falsi  a écrit :

> On 29/02/20 01:06, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> > Hello;
> > 
> > I've recently tried Xfce, and it's very nice. Just thought I'd
> > suggest, please set this file as executable:
> > 
> > /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
> > 
> > I ended up doing chmod +x to that file in order to get it working
> > in xinit.
> 
> I'll have a look at that.
> 
> I'm using xfce from a display manager (lightdm) so I'm not using that
> file.
> 
> > 
> > While here, I am having trouble as both mouse and the keyboard stop
> > working in X. Curiously both worked find in KDE.
> 
> Maybe this is caused by the recent Xorg-server port change from devd
> baackend to udev backend?
> 
> If that's the case the solution if installing xf86-input-evdev and
> restarting Xorg.
> 
> BTW xf86-input-evdev should be a dependency of the xorg-drivers
> metaport, so maybe forcing a reinstallation of that one will fix the
> issue.
> 

Instead to use xf86-input-evdev driver, it is recommended to use
xf86-input-libinput. In upgrade this package is missing (not in fresh
install).

pkg-message in xorg-server mentions to enable kern.evdev.rcpt_ask=6 (12
value works fine too). I think by default it is 3 (for keyboard and
mouse).

Mouse, keyboard and even touchpad work fine under Xfce without to
configure anything in dialogs settings, Xorg settings are sufficient. If
in the past some Xorg configuration was not necessary (for some users),
with the recent update, tunning is needed.

Here [1] my own settings (for French AZERTY keyboard, mouse and
touchpad). 

[1]
https://framagit.org/olivierd/dotfiles/-/tree/master/FreeBSD/etc_X11_xorg.conf.d

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2020-02-29 Thread Guido Falsi
On 29/02/20 01:06, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hello;
> 
> I've recently tried Xfce, and it's very nice. Just thought I'd suggest,
> please set this file as executable:
> 
> /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
> 
> I ended up doing chmod +x to that file in order to get it working in xinit.

I'll have a look at that.

I'm using xfce from a display manager (lightdm) so I'm not using that file.

> 
> While here, I am having trouble as both mouse and the keyboard stop
> working in X. Curiously both worked find in KDE.

Maybe this is caused by the recent Xorg-server port change from devd
baackend to udev backend?

If that's the case the solution if installing xf86-input-evdev and
restarting Xorg.

BTW xf86-input-evdev should be a dependency of the xorg-drivers
metaport, so maybe forcing a reinstallation of that one will fix the issue.

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FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2020-02-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

I've recently tried Xfce, and it's very nice. Just thought I'd suggest, 
please set this file as executable:


/usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc

I ended up doing chmod +x to that file in order to get it working in xinit.

While here, I am having trouble as both mouse and the keyboard stop 
working in X. Curiously both worked find in KDE.


Cheers,

Pedro.

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2019-08-23 Thread Olivier Duchateau
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:50:22 +0200
"Guy Klaassen"  wrote:

> Hi,

Hi,

> 
>  
> 
> My name is Guy.  I am a long time (since late '80s) user of UNIX  (HP-UX /
> Sun Solaris / FreeBSD). I use FreeBSd for ~20 years. Love it. 
> 
>  
> 
> I recently got notified that XFCE 4.12 has been updated to 4.14.  Q: When
> will FreeBSD  's corresponding Xfce 4.14 meta-port (as port / package
> [preferred] ) be available?
> 
> 
>  
> 
> With kind regards, met vriendelijke groet,
> 
>  
> 
> Guy.
> 

You can test, and/or follow progression of update of Xfce 4.14 here [1]. It's 
not yet final version, and I don't know when it will be in ports tree.

Personally I use Xfce 4.14 (and even development releases), it is quite stable.

Regards,

[1] https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21278

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FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2019-08-23 Thread Guy Klaassen
Hi,

 

My name is Guy.  I am a long time (since late '80s) user of UNIX  (HP-UX /
Sun Solaris / FreeBSD). I use FreeBSd for ~20 years. Love it. 

 

I recently got notified that XFCE 4.12 has been updated to 4.14.  Q: When
will FreeBSD  's corresponding Xfce 4.14 meta-port (as port / package
[preferred] ) be available?

 

 

With kind regards, met vriendelijke groet,

 

Guy.

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2012-05-22 Thread Sergey V. Dyatko
On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:44:39 +0800
Martin Wilke  wrote:

> On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:32:11 +0400
> Alex Kirillov  wrote:
> 
> > скорее [censored] 4.10, чего же вы ждете? :)
> 
> не могли бы вы написать на английском языке? в любом случае мы делаем
> тестирования в настоящее время в кластере.
> 

he want to know when xfce4.10 will be in ports tree

OT: google translate or almost perfect russian?:)

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Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2012-05-22 Thread Martin Wilke
On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:32:11 +0400
Alex Kirillov  wrote:

> скорее ебашьте 4.10, чего же вы ждете? :)

не могли бы вы написать на английском языке? в любом случае мы делаем
тестирования в настоящее время в кластере.

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FreeBSD Port: x11-wm/xfce4

2012-05-22 Thread Alex Kirillov
скорее ебашьте 4.10, чего же вы ждете? :)
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