Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 On Jan 5, 2008 10:21 PM, Daniel Markstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 While we're on the topic, I'd like to discuss this: http://forum.freeciv.org/viewtopic.php?t=4216 The

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Daniel Markstedt wrote: ... the legit question of whether the Catalonia described in our ruleset existed in the middle ages or not. ... The exact boundaries and title changed from time to time. This article has been around for a

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread Joan Creus
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Trolling indeed, and it's not strange for Spanish radical nationalists to deny Catalonia's nationhood. Having its own dinasty and laws for hundreds of years, and speaking a different language even today doesn't seem to be enough. In

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Our replies crossed paths. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current catalan.ruleset does NOT represent the medieval counties of Catalonia or the Crown of Aragon. Instead, it represents the Països Catalans, a non-existing nation that some

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Yeah, but the city list in the ruleset DOES contain cities that have never been part of the Principality of Catalonia, or the Region of Catalonia or the current Autonomy. There's even a comment stating: ; This city list does not

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Joan Creus wrote: So, what does the ruleset mean, historically?: the part of the Crown of Aragon settled by Catalan-speaking people (the three maritime kingdoms: Catalonia, Valencia and the Balearic Islands), who have thus the same

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 William Allen Simpson wrote: Which ones? Do they speak Catalan? How did they end up speaking Catalan without ever being part of Catalonia? Autonomous colonies? To clarify my question, our current rule is: An _ancient_ or

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 On Jan 6, 2008 11:53 AM, William Allen Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but the city list in the ruleset DOES contain cities that have

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 On Jan 6, 2008 12:47 PM, William Allen Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 William Allen Simpson wrote: Which ones? Do they speak Catalan? How did they end up speaking

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread Joan Creus
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 2008/1/6, William Allen Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but the city list in the ruleset DOES contain cities that have never been part of the

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then's the Sardinian city of Alghero (L'Alguer), which was resettled in the 14th century by catalans. Cool. Try what I did for Illyrian, adding dates and alternative names: Scodra (hills, plains,

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread Joan Creus
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 We basically agree. I think the key here is the definition of medieval and catalan. As I understand, medieval in Freeciv is used for a nation that existed at some time, but isn't independent nowadays. Since there isn't a cultural

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread Joan Creus
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 2008/1/6, William Allen Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then's the Sardinian city of Alghero (L'Alguer), which was resettled in the 14th century

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Joan Creus wrote: ... yes, there is no reason not to have Andorran cities in the ruleset, although Andorra has always been independent, as far as I know. They speak Catalan because it's what was spoken in their area, not because any

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40000) reducing the number of *_info messages sent to client (pass 2), player_control

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=4 Committed trunk revision 14222. Committed S2_2 revision 14223. ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev

[Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40003) gtk2 options and settings dialogs reset to defaults

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40003 PR#11823 Christian Knoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] PR#39984 Madeline Book [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both suggest adding Reset to the dialogs. Rather than leave these older reports open, consolidate here for future reference.

[Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40004) savegame prefix sometimes hidden

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40004 This was reported as a second bug in PR#39753 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev

[Freeciv-Dev] (PR#11823) 2.0 GTK2 game doesn't save server options

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=11823 This long-standing and repeatedly reported issue has been solved for GTK2, via PR#39959 and PR#39984. Other clients await further revision. ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org

[Freeciv-Dev] (PR#39984) gtk2 server options setting and saving during start screen

2008-01-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=39984 Committed S2_1 revision 14224. Committed S2_2 revision 14225. Committed trunk revision 14226. ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#40001) Update to catalan.ruleset for 2.1

2008-01-06 Thread Joan Creus
URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40001 Yes, it's fascinating how Andorrans manage to navigate the balance of power and remain independent. They have two heads of state (the co-princes): one still is the Bishop of Urgell, and the other is the President of France (Nicolas