<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=16811 >


On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 15:33 -0800, Daniel Markstedt wrote:
> <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=16811 >
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed Nov 14 01:54:33 2007]:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 09:07 -0800, Per Inge Mathisen wrote:
> > > <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=16811 >
> > > 
> > > On Nov 11, 2007 5:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > From the hosting standpoint, if freeciv.org becomes a 401c3, then it
> > > > could collect donations so that it could pay for its own hosting if it
> > > > had to.
> > > 
> > > The problem has always been to find someone who could host it with an
> > > absolutely minimum of work needed to maintain it from our end.
> > > 
> > > Registering and maintaining a charity is almost a full time job.
> > > 
> > > > Has anyone looked into sourceforge?
> > > 
> > > Last I checked, it could not run bugzilla.
> > > 
> > >   - Per
> > > 
> > 
> > Hosting Bugzilla is actually very lightweight on time intensiveness from
> > an administrative perspective. It's now possible to give the ability to
> > manage individual product configurations to individuals that are not
> > administrators without giving away the keys to the rest of the
> > installation.  In the past three years, I can count on one hand the
> > number of times I had to fix things with Bugzilla, Apache, and MySQL
> > (Linux based).
> > 
> > In any case, I don't really care if it's Bugzilla, Sourceforge, Trac,
> > Jira, or something else.  My point is that right now, the current issue
> > tracking system could do a lot more to help foster contributions.
> > Rather than spending a lot of resources fixing RT, why not use something
> > that does a much better job meeting the needs out of the box?
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> If Bugzilla is indeed as easy to maintain as you say, I could volunteer
> to take responsibility for it.
> 
> The question of hosting remains. AFAIK, four alternatives have been
> proposed over the years:
> 
> freeciv.org
> sourceforge.net
> icculus.org
> seul.org
> 
> Let's go through them:
> 
> freeciv.org: Our own aging servers in Paul's basement. Are they up to
> the task? 

For what it is worth, they are not in my basement, but in a real
datacenter.  They are old.  I do have a little money that has been
donated to buy some new ones, but I can no longer host it as I will be
in Africa (am actually here now for a few weeks.)  I can no longer
maintain the servers.

> sourceforge.net: The question was if bugzilla could run on SF.net webspace?
> icculus.org: IIRC, this was Per's contact. Status?
> seul.org: IIRC, this was Egor's contact. Status?
> 
>  ~Daniel



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