Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Future of this mailing list
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Vasco Alexandre da Silva Costa wrote: Hello, As you are probably aware, I (vasc) am no longer actively coding for this project. I used to be active in the past, before I, and the other maintainers, felt we had better avenues to pursue and went elsewhere. But we still have a place in our heart for this project. See: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3229/analyses/latest/contributors We have some new manpower but the House of Freeciv is a bit ruined. Dust and mothballs are piling up. I believe the first place to start with, now that the game code and data, our crown jewels, are safe, is communication. I believe e-mail lists, news, forums are relics of the past. We should offload all our public group communications to Google Groups. Why? - Nearly everyone already has a Google account. - The freeciv-dev and player forum discussions are public anyway. - It takes no extra maintainer effort from us. - It does e-mail and it does web forums. Please discuss. Hello, I think that Freeciv still should have this mailing list, it's has probably been crucial for the project in the past, and I don't think that has changed much. Many of the successfull open source projects still use mailing lists. Why is the House of Freeciv a bit ruined? I would think that there are still a lot of people interested in the project... :-) - Andreas R. ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Future of this mailing list
On 8/26/07, Andreas Røsdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Vasco Alexandre da Silva Costa wrote: Hello, As you are probably aware, I (vasc) am no longer actively coding for this project. I used to be active in the past, before I, and the other maintainers, felt we had better avenues to pursue and went elsewhere. But we still have a place in our heart for this project. See: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3229/analyses/latest/contributors We have some new manpower but the House of Freeciv is a bit ruined. Dust and mothballs are piling up. I believe the first place to start with, now that the game code and data, our crown jewels, are safe, is communication. I believe e-mail lists, news, forums are relics of the past. We should offload all our public group communications to Google Groups. Why? - Nearly everyone already has a Google account. - The freeciv-dev and player forum discussions are public anyway. - It takes no extra maintainer effort from us. - It does e-mail and it does web forums. Please discuss. Hello, I think that Freeciv still should have this mailing list, it's has probably been crucial for the project in the past, and I don't think that has changed much. Many of the successfull open source projects still use mailing lists. Why is the House of Freeciv a bit ruined? I would think that there are still a lot of people interested in the project... :-) - Andreas R. Google Groups are nice and spiffy and everything, but are they really a web forum replacement? One of the wonders with a web forum is the very low threshold of participation. I can think of several non-techie contributors who started out as anonymous posters there... Vasco, by dust and mothballs do you mean in the code base, or is it the infrastructure that is collecting dust? ~Daniel ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Future of this mailing list
On 8/26/07, Daniel Markstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Freeciv still should have this mailing list, it's has probably been crucial for the project in the past, and I don't think that has changed much. Many of the successfull open source projects still use mailing lists. Are they GUI or command line projects? Client or Server? Game or Application? Wesnoth uses forums and is growing stronger as we grow weaker. I believe we need to take one step ahead of our team mates this time. ;-) Why is the House of Freeciv a bit ruined? I would think that there are still a lot of people interested in the project... :-) Just because a roof has leaks, it does not mean the leaks cannot be plugged. :-) Google Groups are nice and spiffy and everything, but are they really a web forum replacement? One of the wonders with a web forum is the very low threshold of participation. I can think of several non-techie contributors who started out as anonymous posters there... You mean moderation. I believe Google Groups has support for that. It also has support for e-mail. Plus most people are already registered Google users. Win-win. Vasco, by dust and mothballs do you mean in the code base, or is it the infrastructure that is collecting dust? Everything. But the infrastructure is worst. We should focus on the worst problem first. It does not mean the other problems cannot be fixed in parallel however. Just help where you wish and can. -- Vasco Alexandre da Silva Costa ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Future of this mailing list
Regarding Google Groups access controls: ===Choose an Access level=== Public - Anyone can read the archives. Anyone can join, but only members can post messages, view the members list, create pages and upload files. Announcement-only - Anyone can read the archives. Anyone can join, but only managers can post messages, view the members list, create pages and upload files. Restricted - People must be invited to join the group. Only members can post messages, read the archives, view the members list, create pages and upload files. Your group and its archives do not appear in public Google search results or the directory. == I created some 'freeciv' groups. Took me a couple of seconds: http://groups.google.com/group/freeciv-announce http://groups.google.com/group/freeciv-commits http://groups.google.com/group/freeciv-dev http://groups.google.com/group/freeciv-i18n Play for yourselves and see if its good enough or not. I think it will take less time than arguing about it. :-) --- Vasco Alexandre da Silva Costa ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
