Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

Hi! sorry, hadn't noticed this thread before. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith wrote: > I am indeed the main developer on WebBox. Since the original e-mail I've > looked into the other software, and have started on developing compatibility > with RemoteStorage. Specifi

[Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite-related video

In case someone's interested, we taped the discussion we had about freedombox last weekend in Unhost, at the unhosted unconference, session hosted by Markus: http://lanyrd.com/2012/unhosted/sygww/ ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@l

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Anders Jackson wrote: > if we use IPv6 in FreedomBox infrastructure [...] > CAcert are as good infrastructure as StartSSL. i think our difference of perspective is you seem to concentrate more on how freedomboxes can communicate with each other (which i also hop

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

i appreciate that we as power users can use those things, but our goal with freedombox is to make something for 'normal' people. If you visit https://g10code.com/steed.html using for instance Chrome, you get a big page saying you are under attack and this domain is unsafe. In Firefox it's grey, but

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

Hi Anders, In an ideal world, yes, but in order for the freedombox to be useful for mainstream users, we have to be compatible with the current situation of the world outside, which (still) involves IPv4, DNS, browsers' white lists for CAs, etcetera. __

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > To make this e-mail not a complete waste: random useful thing: > badger.com provide an API for registering domains. Others may as well > (gandi.net?). This means if someone writes the software, then buying > a domain could be handl

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Michael Rauch wrote: > - with PageKite, this probably leads to registering a domain name for a box. > as this is how the regular web works, normal browser/http-client can access > the page/service. or subdomain, which saves money. we could use per-box startssl cer

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Nick M. Daly wrote: > I haven't actually given a lot of thought to the box as a wireless host. > Most of my thinking has been using it as a host through the wild > intertubes. by wireless host do you mean client or access point? i think the freedombox can be connec

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > If remotestorage is simply going to put a blob in a location ... ie the > equivalent of autosave ... it's going to be a very useful tool for some web > apps, but it makes little sense on a freedombox, imho. yes, our remoteStorage.js library

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Markus Sabadello wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Michiel de Jong > wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Markus Sabadello >> wrote: >> > My understanding is that it would be a transparent proxy, i.e. it >> > captur

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Radio interview

i could come to Nuremberg from Berlin, but my German is rather flaky. Also, the way i see it, freedombox is an open community plus a core team, and the core team is (afaik) based in New York. So you would have to make that clear although i'm one of many people in the community project, i'm entirel

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Markus Sabadello wrote: > My understanding is that it would be a transparent proxy, i.e. it captures > all connections. > So you don't have to configure anything on the client devices, they get > privoxyfied automatically if they use the FreedomBox wifi. OK, so do

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

This is great stuff! On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Nick M. Daly wrote: > I'd *love* to see Tor and PageKite in the default image. I don't know > if there'll be time/expertise to get Tor into the image before EOY, but > we should be able to include PageKite, if nothing else. Bjarni's two > lin

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Nick M. Daly wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:03:59 +0200, Markus Sabadello wrote: >> They are now calling for proposals for the Access Innovation Prize >> where you can win $20k. >> >> ...Basically, the idea is that you could use an

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

IMO, applications support linked data, storage servers do not. Asking if a storage server supports linked data is a bit like asking whether a certain hard drive supports pdf. :) Having said that, there are always connotations, and that is probably what you are both referring to - so for instance,

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Raining on the parade

> On 06/24/2012 11:07 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: >> [Hostile] regimes [would] stomp rather firmly on >> anyone they caught with a Box? that's actually a valid point i think. if the government is searching your house because they suspect you're a dissident, or because they traced from your ISP to you

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity UI

i hadn't thought of the option of using .onion URLs! that's a supercool solution to all 5 points, indeed. I'm also not doing any of the actual coding, and also definitely don't want to tell anyone else what they should work on, but i trust that everybody reading this will simply ignore me where ap

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity UI

Hi Nick, Sorry if i confused the discussion by bringing in the keys of other people and the way you log in. We have to be aware though of which decisions have which dependencies. Let's start from the assumption that the freedombox allows you to communicate using public/private key pairs for ident

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity UI

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Nick M. Daly wrote: > So, identity is pretty fundamental to this project.  Without identity, > privacy is a meaningless concept. good point! > The FreedomBox identifies a person or > group of people through their keys. IIUC, that seems to be design choice aimed

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Hackfest Fodder: FBX as a DropBox Replacement

another benefit of ownCloud is that it supports the remoteStorage protocol for storing cross-origin data from html5 web apps, and also it has quite an end-user friendly user interface out of the box. in fact if you integrate pagekite into ownCloud and put it on a plug server, you're already quite

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Unhosted

Hi Matthew, On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: > I saw this talk at FOSDEM: > http://video.fosdem.org/2012/lightningtalks/Unhosted.webm > [...] > Naturally your own FreedomBox could be your storage. > Yes, I'm glad you brought that up, we should try to get that set up. We

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] prosody vs ejabberd

i was responsible once for a 20-server ejabberd cluster serving 10 million users (up to 1 million concurrent conversations). it's a bit of a learning curve, but once you understand erlang as both a language and a server, it has very high availability, and months of uptime without any maintenance. s

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

Hi! Good topic, I'll try to give my point of view on commercial vs. volunteer developer work, for what it's worth. I don't want to talk people into taking risky decisions in their lives, and there are some preconditions to the whole 'quit your dayjob' thing: - not have any kids that rely on you fi

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Launch of an Open Wireless Movement in the near future?

wow, I thought the call to action would be an appeal for peer-to-peer wifi mesh projects, but it's actually something a lot simpler: they argue that everybody should simply take the password of their wifi network. configure your router to give your own mac address priority over guests. other than

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Fwd: Another freedombox talk to translate (Arthur Lutz - 27c3) (CC by-nc-nd doubts)

The CCC has already replied, so no longer necessary: > As long as the speaker gives his OK, we do not object. If it is just the freedom box talk that you want to edit, go ahead. You may cut it, add beginning and ending, add translations to it, and release it under another license, as long as comme

[Freedombox-discuss] What's the plan?

I understand nobody did any hackfest meeting yesterday, but in the light of this news: http://freedomboxfoundation.org/news/Bdale_Garbee_Joins_Foundation/ I would like to summarize what I think we achieved in the 3 hackfests we did. I must say I lost track of the mailling list this last week, bec

[Freedombox-discuss] Hackfest tomorrow?

Just to let you know i won't be able to be in any hackfest tomorrow, because I am at a conference. Who would be willing to take over? There's not much to take over, i guess, just making sure you're at least there yourself, and announcing this on this mailing list, so that people know there will be

[Freedombox-discuss] Report third hackfest

Hi! Afaik there were two things going on yesterday at the hackfest: - The "Distributed Social Networks" comic has been translated into German, and put into git with the text balloons in svg, so that they're easy to translate into more languages. - We tested installing the WebID debian package, wh

[Freedombox-discuss] Third Sunday Hackfest tomorrow

Let's do another hackfest tomorrow! :) Speaking for myself, there's been so much activity on the mailing list this week that i think my hackfest-activity for tomorrow could be just 6 hours of mailing list reading. ;) Although maybe I will just pick one of the foundation's seven goals, and focus ju

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [linux-elitists] my summary of yesterday's Hackfest

Hi Tony, Sorry for not answering earlier, your email got snowed under. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Tony Godshall wrote: > Saw your post on linux-elitists. I am interested in your project and have signed up for the mailing list. I don't know linux-elitists, but great to see you here! Sin

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] my summary of yesterday's Hackfest

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > On 28 February 2011 15:55, Michiel de Jong wrote: > > I studied the facebook api a bit more to see if we can scrape it. For > now, > > my conclusion is that, since you need to register each app to get an api > >

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Store-and-forward is a necessity

I didn't read your entire email, sorry. but i absolutely agree store-and-forward is very important and interesting thing to investigate in the context of internet freedom. we could do an interesting experiment to set up a revival of usenet over either WoT or wifi mesh. if we could make the experime

[Freedombox-discuss] my summary of yesterday's Hackfest

This summary is probably biased towards my own point of view. Please correct and append. General == Multiple were experimenting installing debian on plugservers. I tried to get the VirtualBox image working, but had some trouble with the networking. We talked about how to extract package dep

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Routing around nationwide and international Internet blocks

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > what happens if the entire network both is truly shut off > and there is NO INTERNET either within the country or past borders? > > Are there contingency plans being built into the box for this scenario? > What are the options for handli

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Emdebian sprint: boxer tool

great! i'll give it a test run. can you confirm the link please? it is giving me a "404 No Such Project" right now. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi all, > > At the Emdebian sprint in Cambridge, UK this week, Héctor and I threw > together a tool for generating images

[Freedombox-discuss] Second Sunday Hackfest tomorrow

Hi! Like last week, let's get together in the #freedombox IRC channel on OFTC tomorrow, and try to get some work done! The main goal is having fun and exploring. Afterwards we can report our progress to the mailing list, so the project as a whole can profit from the progress we make. I propose the

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] "What's a Distributed Social Network?" -- the comic

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > federated? > > to me, federated means parties that used to be separated, joined together. as in http://status.net/2010/07/13/what-is-the-federated-social-web so at some level "federate" is almost the opposite action of "decentralize" _

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Willing to contribute

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I kindly suggest the work cycle would be: > > - rank each of the goals by impact > - rank each of the goals by effort > - pick the highest impact, lowest effort one > - [the rest] yes, i agree. i was just saying that everybody can do

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Sunday HackFest

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Thomas Doczkal wrote: > Can someone recommend a Hardware to > me which will be the aim to observe the hardware requirements a freedom > box will have? Should be hardware in the "everyone can buy this" price > range ;) i think sheevaplug, guruplug, tonidoplug and

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Sunday HackFest

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I think (1) is a long term goal [...] > Wifi mesh seems to me a definite "yes but later" thing. I see your point, and prioritising is important - but I think the easiest (or most anarchistic) way of prioritising these independent subta

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Willing to contribute

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hello! > > Having fun and a weekly release cadence sounds awesome to me! I wish I > could help with the coding :) > You can though! All you would need to join in, is some basic linux user skills. We're not coding, nor are we packaging. We a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Willing to contribute

You are welcome to join our Sunday Hackfests (US-morning/euro-afternoon, each Sunday since yesterday, in the project IRC channel). They are based on having fun, and exploring what should be on the freedombox, for it to reach the seven goals specified on http://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/goals/