On Monday 10 November 2014 04:42 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Jonathan Wilkes (2014-11-10 00:42:12)
[...]
Currently all I've read is that the project should glue together
pre-existing pieces of software, rather than designing or developing
software specifically for the project. (Or
Quoting Jonathan Wilkes (2014-11-10 00:42:12)
There needs to be a more rigorous-- or at least explicit-- set of
guidelines for what software may get included in Freedombox.
That sounds sensible to me.
Currently all I've read is that the project should glue together
pre-existing pieces
[Petter Reinholdtsen]
These ideas about SMTorP and Cables sound great, but I am wondering
what is needed to get these options into the FreedomBox. Can any of
you who know these approaches best tell us what needs to be done?
Are Cables, SMTorP and Mailpile compatible? Can they send email to
There needs to be a more rigorous-- or at least explicit-- set of guidelines
for what software may get included in Freedombox. Currently all I've read is
that the project should glue together pre-existing pieces of software, rather
than designing or developing software specifically for the
What you propose with exim and hidden addresses ought to be relatively
simple to set up.
You'd want to take a careful look at your DNS traffic to make sure
you're not leaking things there both at the email client layer and at
the exim layer.
In particular, take a look at what your email client
Hi Jonathan!
Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does your design include perfect forward secrecy for the pairs
communicating over SMTorP?
We recommend using TLS over the Tor circuit, and will probably recommend
using a cipher which provides PFS.
However, encryption of the messages
Bjarni,
What options are you exploring for funding?
Unfortunately, I do not have any suggestions.
-Jonathan
On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:54 AM, Bjarni Runar Einarsson b...@pagekite.net
wrote:
Hi Jonathan!
Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does your design include perfect
Hi Jonathan!
Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Bjarni,What is the novel part of your SMTorP design that allows users
of insecure email to gradually, opportunistically improve their
security wrt hiding their metadata?
The incremental improvements are not part of the design of
Hi Bjarni,
Thanks for the response.
Does your design include perfect forward secrecy for the pairs communicating
over SMTorP?
Also, what is your plan to sustainably fund the GUI work, user studies, and the
work on professional documentation? (I.e., those aspects which tend to get
little to
Hi guys!
Just noticed this thread. I wanted to just chime in and support this
idea. I think there is immense value to using normal e-mail over Tor and
the e-mail client I am working on (Mailpile) is looking to support this
sort of thing out of the box, including appropriate UI feedback so users
Hi Bjarni,What is the novel part of your SMTorP design that allows users of
insecure email to gradually, opportunistically improve their security wrt
hiding their metadata? It looks to me like your users would need to exchange
onion addys out-of-band, or else take the risk that comes with
Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com writes:
Btw, I also came across
URL: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/exim-tor-hidden-mail
when searching for people with similar ideas. The recipe there
definitely look like something we could set up on the Freedombox.
i was looking for smtp
[Jonathan Wilkes]
Hi Petter,I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
Well, I am not sure I understand what you mean, so that make us a team,
I guess. :)
Cables includes within it the subset of features you need for fbx -
fbx communication resistant to meta-data snooping. What does your
[Jonathan Wilkes]
Hi Petter,You should look at something like Cables in Linux Liberte.
Are you talking about URL: http://dee.su/liberte ?
But the only reason Cables theoretically* works is that everything
is delivered over Tor, and it typically runs on a machine where Tor
is being leveraged
Hi Petter,I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Cables includes within it
the subset of features you need for fbx - fbx communication resistant to
meta-data snooping. What does your proposed system do that Cables does not?
Also, I didn't know it was still under active development. I
Hi.
I got this idea for how to set up a system to exchange emails between
freedobox boxes without having to develop much ourself. Is this
already done by someone else? Anyone here know enough about the
involved systems to make a proof of concept quickly?
The idea is based on the fact that a
Hi Petter,You should look at something like Cables in Linux Liberte.
But the only reason Cables theoretically* works is that everything is delivered
over Tor, and it typically runs on a machine where Tor is being leveraged for
everything. That at least gives the user some protection if the
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