Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-29 Thread Wesley Parish
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 03:21, Blair Campbell wrote: snip Is OpenWatcom's DOS compiler 16-bit DPMI too? No. Openwatcom is only capable of producing straight 16-bit apps or 32-bit DPMI apps. I'm wondering, does anyone have a set of test apps that can test the comparative performances of the

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-29 Thread Alain
IMHO, both are needed: DJGPP is perfect for compiling Unix tools. Openwatcom is very good for new or simple programs. Porting from Borland to OpenWatcom is ususaly not too dificult. I have a lib of functions for OW that contain all the screen functions, this is the worst part of converting.

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-29 Thread Alain
Wesley Parish escreveu: I'm wondering what the advantage of choosing any one particular C compiler over the rest, might be. (Admittedly, one major advantage of DJGPP and OpenWatcom is portability, which TurboC/C++ doesn't have; nobody's every ported BCC to anything other than a *DOS that

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-28 Thread David O'Shea
Hi Blair, Why not supply OpenWatcom instead? It's freely distributable. OpenWatcom is already supplied, but DJGPP is much more useful for porting GNU utilities or linux programs to DOS (like DOSFSCK in the Base FreeDOS diskset, and many games using the allegro library). Please excuse my

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-26 Thread Thomas Southern
djgpp may not be good for the kernal programming but I can't think of a better platform for applications programming. I know that there are those who are more into Freedos as an antique excersize in programming. However, Many comercial utilities use some form of dos as a spingboard for bootable CD

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-23 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi, Blair Campbell escribió: almost 100% TP-compatible code), perhaps GhostScript, the DJGPP LaTeX Ghostscript is in the next release but LaTeX is HUGE (at least on linux), and I'm not considering it at present. Ok, good work anyway. But have you seen the DJGPP-LaTeX? I seem to remember

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-22 Thread Alain
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: A - OpenWatcom has a lot of BC's DOS's functions, or one of the BC's A functions to do the same. OW is highly QC/MSC compatible, compatability with BC was never planned. :( but I have used it to some extent and MANY BC31's exclusive functions are available

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-21 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Alex, Friday, August 19, 2005, 10:48:17 PM, you wrote: On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, tom ehlert wrote: Hello Alain, It should provide its own library routines so it's easy to use different compilers. I believe that if somone is *really* motivated, this can be done. But it would still

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-19 Thread Florian Xaver
Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote: almost 100% TP-compatible code), perhaps GhostScript, the DJGPP LaTeX Have everybody tried to use the latest GhostScript (for Windows) with an extender and win32-emulator like HX or WDOSX? Bye, Flo -- Unofficial Dr-DOS page http://www.drdos.org SWORD - GUI

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-19 Thread Florian Xaver
Ghostscript is in the next release but LaTeX is HUGE (at least on linux), and I'm not considering it at present. I don't think, that LaTeX is very usefull for the _common_ FreeDOS user/developer. Bye, Flo -- Unofficial Dr-DOS page http://www.drdos.org SWORD - GUI for DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-19 Thread Blair Campbell
Have everybody tried to use the latest GhostScript (for Windows) with an extender and win32-emulator like HX or WDOSX? You are welcome to try, but it probably requires Windows-specific graphics stuff and besides, I am including GS for DOS 7.05 in the next ISO, which is MUCH improved over the GS

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-19 Thread Blair Campbell
Ui...i thought, that it is only a command line program. I remembered, that it only converted files...do you mean, that it uses Windows-Stuff for converting or that it can make it visible now? It can convert, and also it can view PS and PDF.

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-19 Thread Robert Riebisch
Florian Xaver wrote: Have everybody tried to use the latest GhostScript (for Windows) with an extender and win32-emulator like HX or WDOSX? We (Jochen, Michal, me) are already in the process of patching/compiling the latest version for Open WATCOM. But give us some more weeks. (Holidays, ...)

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-19 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Alain, It should provide its own library routines so it's easy to use different compilers. I believe that if somone is *really* motivated, this can be done. But it would still be a lot of work... it's MUCH less work then writing FreeCOM in the first place - by several orders of

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Blair Campbell
Why not supply OpenWatcom instead? It's freely distributable. OpenWatcom is already supplied, but DJGPP is much more useful for porting GNU utilities or linux programs to DOS (like DOSFSCK in the Base FreeDOS diskset, and many games using the allegro library). Can DJGPP compile FreeCOM and the

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Blair Campbell
I thought so. However, OpenWatcom won't build FreeCOM, what other compilers is supplied on the ISO image that can build it? FreeCOM only builds on Turbo|Borland C[++], as far as I know, and none of these are redistributable (even the free ones available from the Borland museum).

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Blair Campbell
FreeCOM needs a lot of work to make it compilable with OpenWatcom but I think it's worthwhile doing. I've made a good start but it's likely to take a long time. That's great! I also would like to see FreeCOM compileable with OpenWatcom. This will also allow it to be 386-optimized as well as

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
My personal opinion is that there should be the core and most useful apps in a single big package. Perhaps you should consider this an additional package, and release two CDs: one small without aditional things, one big with the additional things. There's also some other great GPL DOS Software

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Blair Campbell
There's also some other great GPL DOS Software (for additional packages), such as FreePascal Already included almost 100% TP-compatible code), perhaps GhostScript, the DJGPP LaTeX Ghostscript is in the next release but LaTeX is HUGE (at least on linux), and I'm not considering it at present.

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Johnson Lam
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:08:17 +0200, you wrote: Hi Aitor, My personal opinion is that there should be the core and most useful apps in a single big package. Perhaps you should consider this an additional package, and release two CDs: one small without aditional things, one big with the

Re: [Freedos-devel] DJGPP on FreeDOS LiveCDs

2005-08-18 Thread Alain
Johnson Lam escreveu: Disk 1 - FreeDOS core and base software (must have!) This could even be made smaller than 193Mb to fit ina MINI-CD ;-) Disk 2 - Other GPL DOS Software (option) Alain --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better