Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-22 Thread Florian Xaver
Another thing when running FreeDOS in a VM is the CPU usage of the host machine. It will be go to 100% and the CPU fan will start. I use always the FDAPM with the parameter APMDOS so the HLT command is used (I think it's the instruction). With this, the host CPU is about 4% usage on my 1GHz

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-22 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arkady V.Belousov wrote: AB Most emulators / virtualizer are now close to 1 (as of QEMU and VMware). AB There is no real / perfect solution to have a precise clock in a VM. AB This is because it would have a big performance penalty. Let me

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-22 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 21-Июл-2006 18:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: AB There is no real / perfect solution to have a precise clock in a VM. AB This is because it would have a big performance penalty. Let me doubt in this - for example, for DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 19-Июл-2006 17:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: AB for two days and I had to read about 70 mail... I personally use QEMU AB and VMware Server for testing purposes and timers often run too fast. I AB remember that I saw this effect in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-20 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As I can tell from my experince, the factor depends a lot from the host speed and emulation / virtualisation software. I saw speed differences from about a bit faster ( 1.0) up to 10 times. Most emulators / virtualizer are now close to 1 (as of QEMU

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 20-Июл-2006 18:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Does this mean, that when you run some program, which shows clock (for example, Norton and Volcov Commander may show clock), then this clock is too fast? And how it fast - 1.5

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-19 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, first sorry about the unneeded info. I couldn't check my emails for two days and I had to read about 70 mail... I personally use QEMU and VMware Server for testing purposes and timers often run too fast. I remember that I saw this effect in Bochs

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Jim Hall
I feel very strongly that we must not have timeouts on the options when you first boot. Eric gives a good example - it happened to me. I was at work when I was testing the new CDROM (on Parallels on my iMac) and happened to get a phone call. When I looked back at my session, I had gotten an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:41 PM 7/17/2006 -0700, Blair Campbell wrote: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM (nothing wrong with that IMHO), and the second just boots defaultly into installation mode, which is what most people will be after. I,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 17-Июл-2006 19:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM (nothing wrong with that IMHO), and the second just boots defaultly into

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Июл-2006 23:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: One thing I would recommend is that we not have a timer on the options when you boot the install CD. If I were a new user to FreeDOS, I'd probably feel a bit rushed and would prefer to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Alain M.
We agree (Eric, Arkady ans me(Alain)) without any discussion! This must be something to comemorate... Alain Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: Win9x setup gives timeout before reboot, _after_ setup finished (some steps). And I disagree, that installer should be timeouted in any part,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Alain M.
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: AB Especially when testing in a VM, the timer runs often too fast. This is very strange, because shouldn't happen - config.c for timeouts uses BIOS timer variable (see GetBiosTime() usage in GetBiosKey()). And, with current code in GetBiosKey(), worser case

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Blair Campbell
Soon available at www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0-Testing will be the files: fdfullws.iso - FreeDOS with all disksets and corrosponding sources fdfullcd.iso - FreeDOS with all disksets without sources fdbasews.iso - FreeDOS BASE diskset with corrosponding sources

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Hall
I'm experimenting with fdfullws.iso at the moment. It looks good so far, but I'm not done with the install yet. There is some menu cleanup that we could do before 1.0 ... I'll do some more experimenting and see if I can suggest something. One thing I would recommend is that we not have a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Marcus Furlong
Jim Hall wrote: I'm experimenting with fdfullws.iso at the moment. It looks good so far, but I'm not done with the install yet. There is some menu cleanup that we could do before 1.0 ... I'll do some more experimenting and see if I can suggest something. One thing I would recommend is

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Blair Campbell
They have 15 seconds the first time (Win98 only gives 10 FYI), and the second timeout gives 30 seconds. More than enough IMHO. On 7/17/06, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM