Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > I think that every program beyond the default MSDOS programs raises some > > level of noise. > > They might be useful, but having hundred of unknown (to me) programs thrown > > into the same \BIN\ directory doesn't motivate > > me t

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
Hi Jerome, ... my DONUTS package (Disk and Other New Utility Tool Suite for DOS) [1] It contains several very small simple tools. BOOTDRV Returns system boot drive. DOSOEMIDReturns DOS OEM ID. DOSVER Returns DOS version number. LASTDRV Returns LASTDRIVE setting. SWITCHAR

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
HI Tom, > On Feb 17, 2025, at 10:52 AM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > [..] > >> I think it becomes difficult to draw the line of what is useful or not >> without letting our personal bias get involved. > >> But once again, I think a lot of the programs of questionable usefulness

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: I think that every program beyond the default MSDOS programs raises some level of noise. They might be useful, but having hundred of unknown (to me) programs thrown into the same \BIN\ directory doesn't motivate me to search HELP on all

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
Hallo Herr Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel, am Montag, 17. Februar 2025 um 09:02 schrieben Sie: >> On Feb 16, 2025, at 5:43 PM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel >> wrote: >> >> Hallo Herr Jim Hall via Freedos-devel, >> >> am Sonntag, 16. Februar 2025 um 22:20 schrieben Sie: >> >>> I'm bringing

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The consensus appears to be in support of excluding FDTUI from the FreeDOS install media. Therefore, I have removed it from the BonusCD package list. FDTUI will now be excluded from future builds of the OS. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-dev

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-17 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Feb 16, 2025, at 5:43 PM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hallo Herr Jim Hall via Freedos-devel, > > am Sonntag, 16. Februar 2025 um 22:20 schrieben Sie: > >> I'm bringing back an item we talked about on the video call this morning. > >> Folks have discussed a few times on t

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
I wouldn't assuime any unwarranted wisdom here, but my impression is that some programs seem to be included because they are there and there is no alternative. As a font nerd of sorts, I noticed the gnuchcp package that Jim even made a video about. It is ridiculously trivial and not very well progr

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
Hallo Herr Jim Hall via Freedos-devel, am Sonntag, 16. Februar 2025 um 22:20 schrieben Sie: > I'm bringing back an item we talked about on the video call this morning. > Folks have discussed a few times on this email list about dropping the > FDTUI program from the distribution. But FDTUI was al

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
As I said, we should perhaps take a tally of what is really useful, but perhaps we should take some time to trawl through all the packages. and not delay the upcoming release over it. I would say this would be a project for FreeDOS 1.5 On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 23:49, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wr

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: I think we need to drop FDTUI, and not include it in FreeDOS 1.4. ACTION: I'm looking for consensus. Please release with "+1" if you agree or comments if not. +1 Don't we already have ViewMax which is literally DR DOS's counterpart of D

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
While we are at it: Any reason for the inclusion of MINIBOX? Tom ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
+1 >From what I can see. There's pretty much a consensus it should go. Perhaps, since release cycles of FreeDOS tend to be rather long, we should perhaps have a look at all packages and sort out the ones who are really needed and those that shouldn't come with the main distribution. We could still

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread victoria crenshaw via Freedos-devel
it has mixture of C and C++ it is a bit messy tbh the library is in C++ (which i actually don't know OOP C) while the main actual program is C (which i know C) making it quite hard to work on honestly On Sun, 2025-02-16 at 15:32 -0600, victoria crenshaw via Freedos-devel wrote: > let me test it on

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread victoria crenshaw via Freedos-devel
let me test it on my 286 and see if it even works on there. if 386 only then u got my vote. if it works on 16-bit machines then maybe i can pick it up.. On Sun, 2025-02-16 at 15:20 -0600, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: > I'm bringing back an item we talked about on the video call this > mornin

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Victoria Crenshaw via Freedos-devel
hey jim it works on the 286... i should pick up this project for now, But for quality reasons i'd leave it in repo but not in distribution disks of 1.4 until i fix it xD ok? <3 +1 for leaving it out of disks but not repo On 2/16/25 15:20, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: I'm bringing back an

Re: [Freedos-devel]   Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
+1 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel]   Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel
+1--Gesendet mit der mail.com Mail AppAm 16.02.25, 22:21 schrieb Jim Hall via Freedos-devel : I'm bringing back an item we talked about on the video call this morning. Folks have discussed a few times on this email list about dropping the FDTUI program from the distribution. But FDTUI was always "

[Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove FDTUI

2025-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'm bringing back an item we talked about on the video call this morning. Folks have discussed a few times on this email list about dropping the FDTUI program from the distribution. But FDTUI was always "just one item in a long list of other topics" in whatever thread it was brought up in, so FDTU