Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-25 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:33:17 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > Actually, you should be able to use LZMA compression in the main .ZIP > itself to squeeze some more space. I don't recall if any other packages > used that (yet). I think Mateusz was vaguely worried about wasting > dozens of MB of RAM just to unp

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:05 AM, TK Chia wrote: > > I am not sure if it is feasible to include truly "full" sources inside the > FreeDOS packages. The complete patched GCC source tree is quite large even > when xz-compressed (about 58 MiB), even after excluding some of the bigger > testsuit

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-24 Thread TK Chia
Hello Rugxulo, The dependencies needed to build GCC are GMP, GNU MPFR, GNU MPC, and the Integer Set Library (ISL) --- which fetch.sh also downloads. build.sh will build these twice, once for the Ubuntu platform (for stage1), and once for DJGPP (for stage2). I forgot to mention another depen

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-24 Thread TK Chia
Hello Rugxulo, Please don't feel pressure from me about this, but "build-ia16-20180616-update-20180708.zip" (35 kb) is only some small files, not the full sources. Obviously the rest is on Github. But what exactly do you need to rebuild this? (I probably won't try, just curious anyways.) Ubuntu

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-23 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Rugxulo wrote: I'm just saying, I suspect that Jim wants to (eventually?) mirror this to iBiblio, and he will of course want "full" sources. But I realize this isn't finalized yet, just a preview snapshot. It's sadly too easy to overlook full sources and dependencies, so mos

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:21 AM, TK Chia wrote: > > I have uploaded updated packages at > https://github.com/tkchia/build-ia16/releases/tag/20180616-update-20180708 . Okay, I've downloaded this now but haven't tried it yet. Please don't feel pressure from me about this, but "build-ia16-2018

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-17 Thread Jim Hall
Excellent! I can't wait to try this out. :-) On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:22 AM TK Chia wrote: > Hello all, > > I have uploaded updated packages at > https://github.com/tkchia/build-ia16/releases/tag/20180616-update-20180708 > . Thank you! > > On 07/17/2018 05:55 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > I'd love

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-17 Thread TK Chia
Hello all, I have uploaded updated packages at https://github.com/tkchia/build-ia16/releases/tag/20180616-update-20180708 . Thank you! On 07/17/2018 05:55 AM, Jim Hall wrote: I'd love to see these included in FreeDOS 1.3. I have had this on the Contribute

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-17 Thread TK Chia
Hello all, Thank you. I have uploaded some packages for a gcc-ia16 toolchain, at https://github.com/tkchia/build-ia16/releases/tag/20180612-redist-djgpp . The toolchain requires a 32-bit machine to run, but the programs they output will be 16-bit. The current packages do not include some r

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-16 Thread perditionc
The plan is to have a new kernel release that supports gcc-i16 along with Open Watcom and others; (using OW for the FreeDOS 1.3 main distribution, [speculating] possibly with DOSEMU updating their FreeDOS archive to include a gcc compiled version if it proves ready). See https://github.com/FDOS/ke

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-16 Thread Jim Hall
I'd love to see these included in FreeDOS 1.3. I have had this on the Contribute page for a while now: *Create a DOS package of the GNU C Compiler (GCC) that is capable of > creating 16-bit DOS applications (no extender)* That's TK Chia's gcc-ia16 port. O

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-16 Thread Louis Santillan
Are there any thought as to how TK Chia's gcc-i16 port [0] and Bart Oldeman's patches [1][2] might fit into 1.3+ plans? [0] https://github.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16 [1] https://github.com/PerditionC/fdkernel/pull/25 [2] https://github.com/PerditionC/fdkernel/pull/26 On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Je

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-12 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Jul 12, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > [...] > Sep 30 - no new packages > Oct 31 - no new languages > Nov 30 - RC1 > Dec 31 - RC2 > Jan 31 - 1.3 release Sounds fine to me. -- Check out the vibrant tech comm

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-12 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 6:02 PM Jerome Shidel wrote: > (..) > Well, 1.2 was rather insane towards the final release. There were a bunch > of language additions and feature requests that were added nearly right up > until 1.2 final. > > That’s not happing again! > > We haven’t set any hard dates for

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-12 Thread Jim Hall
As you said, the programs are GPL, but the game data is not. That's where FreeDOOM came in, for example. So we'd need to do something similar for these games to include them in FreeDOS 1.3, for example. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 9:48 AM thraex wrote: > > As far as I know, the source code for Hexen

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-11 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Jul 11, 2018, at 4:57 PM, thraex wrote: > > > > 10-07-2018 23:46 tarihinde Jerome Shidel yazdı: > >>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Jim Hall >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> I'd like to start work on FreeDOS 1.3! >>> >> More good games would nice. :-)

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-11 Thread thraex
10-07-2018 23:46 tarihinde Jerome Shidel yazdı: >> On Jul 10, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Jim Hall > > wrote: >> >> Hi everyone >> >> I'd like to start work on FreeDOS 1.3! >> > More good games would nice. :-) Doom, Hexen, Heretic! :) > If anyone is interested in doing some tran

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-10 Thread Ercan Ersoy
Hello, *- The install CD should be a Live CD.* The FreeDOS 1.2 install CD is sort of a Live CD. You can exit the install process and drop back to a DOS command line. I think the same, but include a full "Base" FreeDOS runtime. I think FreeDOS Live CD will be ask installation mode or live mod

Re: [Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

2018-07-10 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello, :-) > On Jul 10, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone > > I'd like to start work on FreeDOS 1.3! > > We talked before that the next release would be an iteration on FreeDOS 1.2. > That means the next distribution will be FreeDOS 1.3 - and not 2.0. We wanted > the next F