Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-18 Thread Alain
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: Huh. For me, with my poor self-teached English, all above sounds as mumba-yumba. :) First of all, let me state that your english is much much better then when we startd tlaking about cute mouse. In fact I see that now you understand most enghish idioms and

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18--2005 11:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: A I eny case here is the axplanation about may and can: A He can do that. = He is phisicaly able to do that. A He may do that. = 1) He is allowed to do that. or 2) Pehaps he will A chose to do that.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-16 Thread Michael Devore
At 04:19 AM 1/16/2005 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: MD As far as UMB's, I'm not sure if turning off the A20 line affects memory MD mapping from physical odd-address Mb. Seems like it should, Michael, strange to see such sentences from you. A20 is a pin of (186 and higher) CPU, which used

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-16 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 16--2005 04:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: MD As far as UMB's, I'm not sure if turning off the A20 line affects memory MD mapping from physical odd-address Mb. Seems like it should, Michael, strange to see such sentences from you.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-15 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 12--2005 17:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: MD Nothing on an application level should need to disable A20 and if it did, MD it would crash things loaded in a UMB due to loss of memory access, not to --^^^

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-15 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi, Arkady V.Belousov escribi: MD I don't think it affects anything important. MD As far as UMB's, I'm not sure if turning off the A20 line affects memory MD mapping from physical odd-address Mb. Seems like it should, Michael, strange to see such sentences from you. A20 is a pin of (186 and

RE: Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-13 Thread AITOR SANTAMARIA MERINO
Hi, - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Destinatario: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Fecha: Miércoles, Enero 12, 2005 2:12pm Asunto: Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last) Hi! 4-ñÎ×-2005 01:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor

RE: Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-13 Thread AITOR SANTAMARIA MERINO
Hi, - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Destinatario: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Fecha: Jueves, Enero 13, 2005 1:21am Asunto: Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last) At 03:57 PM 1/12/2005 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: MD Nothing

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-13 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 13--2005 23:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AITOR SANTAMARIA MERINO) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: ASM .486p ASM What happens in that case if I have a pure 386? Nothing wrong, unless you use in your source some 486-specific instruction and try to execute it on 386. ASM Precisely. I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-12 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 4--2005 01:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamara Merino) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: ASM (1) This one is easy: ASM .486p ASM Does this mean to use 486-specific instructions (that is, not to ASM complain if one comes across 486-specific instructions)? This one just

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-12 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 3--2005 19:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: local_disable_a20: mov ax,1 mov bl,0 retf MD Nothing on an application level should need to disable A20 and if it did, MD it would crash things loaded in a UMB due to loss of memory

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-12 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 4--2005 20:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Can freedos be use in a real-time environment successfully? Yes, of course, because DOS itself doesn't uses machine resources until you call it explicitly. On the other side, DOS is not

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-12 Thread Michael Devore
At 03:57 PM 1/12/2005 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: MD Nothing on an application level should need to disable A20 and if it did, MD it would crash things loaded in a UMB due to loss of memory access, not to --^^^ HMA ? MD mention DOS image loaded high going

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-05 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 3--2005 22:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: the next remaining big todo for EMM is to have XMS/EMS shared memory pools, A Is this really important? Do many people need this on OLD hardware? This not relates to old hardware. Shared pool mean,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-04 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi Michael, Thanks for your reply. Michael Devore escribió: Now one more future wishes question: I guess that after Michael's excellent work through VCPI and VDS, the next remaining big todo for EMM is to have XMS/EMS shared memory pools, does it mean that EMM's XMS manager is enlarged to XMS

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-04 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:05 PM 1/4/2005 +0100, Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote: Michael Devore escribió: Now one more future wishes question: I guess that after Michael's excellent work through VCPI and VDS, the next remaining big todo for EMM is to have XMS/EMS shared memory pools, does it mean that EMM's XMS

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-04 Thread Michael Devore
At 06:01 PM 1/4/2005 -0500, Chris wrote: Can freedos be use in a real-time environment successfully? Kind of depends on your task priority needs and data collection, interface, latency, and throughput requirements. You could use FreeDOS for a stock-ticker program without fear, but I would stay

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386 (part2 and last)

2005-01-04 Thread Alain
if the real-time is INSIDE your program: yes if you want a real-time-OS to run many programs: no Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Can freedos be use in a real-time environment successfully? Chris --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the

[Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi there, I have started reading EMM386.ASM (not the latest hot version, but the previous one, not many changes I assume), and although I haven't yet finished, I think I'd need a couple of hints on some things there. BTW quite an interesting pierce of work! :-) I suppose some of them are

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Aitor, I leave the rest to michael, but (4) What are those special comments/marks for? What are they indicating? They are all over the sources ; (*-9-*) ; (#-9-#) that's historic, kind of pre-diff; it was published (printed) in several versions, and the later ones had ; (*-9-*)

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote: I can't answer anything emm386 specific, but maybe this'll help a little until Michael/Tom/? answers. Hi there, I have started reading EMM386.ASM (not the latest hot version, but the ... (2) What is the meaning of this structure? How much memory does it weight

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 3--2004 19:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Aitor Santamara Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (5) In the startup of the driver, it is set 00AAh into memory 0040h:0072h, but I can't find references to this BIOS variable, what is that? te it's LPT4. and scince ther's no LPT4, it's abused

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 3--2004 19:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamara Merino) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ASM (2) What is the meaning of this structure? How much memory does it ASM weight actually, or how does the assembler determine that? (the bit that ASM I ignore is the (?)) ASM RES_STACK SEGMENT PARA USE16

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread Michael Devore
At 07:12 PM 12/3/2004 +0100, Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote: Hi there, I have started reading EMM386.ASM (not the latest hot version, but the previous one, not many changes I assume), and although I haven't yet finished, I think I'd need a couple of hints on some things there. BTW quite an

Re: [Freedos-devel] Questions on EMM386

2004-12-03 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi, Michael Devore escribió: As it is currently a quite active development project, any nontrivial changes to EMM386 unrelated to fixing a verified bug should be sync'ed through me or Tom. Unannounced code changes to EMM386 could make Michael cry and misbehave. Sure :) Aitor