Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos emulation under 64-bit windows 7

2011-02-11 Thread Rugxulo
Okay, I read the archives online, (sorry for late reply, wasn't subscribed, hope this helps), here's what I know: 1). Yes, as mentioned XP Mode is for commercial Win7 users only (Pro, Enterprise, Ultimate). Yes, you can transparently share files (I think?) via RDP. It's just XP Pro SP3 inside

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos emulation under 64-bit windows 7

2011-02-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 2/13/11, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: There are several dialects of Pascals for DOS. And don't forget Modula-2, Modula-3, Oberon. Unfortunately, most are abandoned. But yeah, I agree, C is weird. Nevertheless, the FreeDOS kernel uses it. (VirtualBox probably uses C++, but I

Re: [Freedos-devel] documentation for FreeDOS filesystem or other programming functions/interfaces?

2011-02-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 2/13/11, Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com wrote: I am possibly going to rewrite my df utility to work with freeDOS' FAT32 filesystem (DJGPP uses int21h function 36h which is 16-bit FAT16 and 16-bit regs). I think DJGPP does (try to) use int 21h, 7303h sometimes, but modern NT-based

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos emulation under 64-bit windows 7

2011-02-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 2/22/11, Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com wrote: it's a whole distribution package, not just a piece of something. and it doesn't run my programs, because it has no DPMI. does anyone know if there is a VM that has DPMI? I need to do testing, like right now. thanks. I haven't

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.1 (again)

2011-05-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com wrote: Em 04-05-2011 16:45, Bart Oldeman escreveu: I had to use some of the kernel build infrastructure to be able to still also build with Turbo C(++). Writing portable DOS makefiles causes all sorts of funny restrictions,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.1 (again)

2011-05-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 4-5-2011 11:08, dos386 schreef: Good ol' DOS386, gotta love his enthusiasm! :-)) Although you left out some important things (and seem stuck on some questionable tools, which is fine, but I still disagree about

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.1 (again)

2011-05-06 Thread Rugxulo
. But yeah, UCL packs slightly worse than NRV, but LZMA method is better anyways (and also open source). https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/upx-uclx.zip?attredirects=0 https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/upx-ucls.zip?attredirects=0 ### IUP (still has the BrewTemp-AH=$5A-BUG) I don't see a lot

[Freedos-devel] French DOS keyboard driver (beta)

2011-05-11 Thread Rugxulo
(forwarding on Ninho's behalf): http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=9875 - Based off Japheth's original Keybgr, French keyboard driver takes only a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Severe bug in kernel 2040

2011-05-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Bart Oldeman bartolde...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On 18 May 2011 11:04, Ladislav Lacina la...@seznam.cz wrote: I found severe incompatibility between new SVN kernel 2040 and LD.EXE in version 2.9.1. LD.EXE is part of DJGPP or Freepascal. It is not

Re: [Freedos-devel] Severe bug in kernel 2040 - offtopic about Freepascal

2011-05-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, 2011/5/19 Ladislav Lacina la...@seznam.cz: Yes, I like the FPC 1.0.10. The IDE is a little bit unstable and there are bugs in Ansistrings and sometimes failing type control but all important components work. Well, Marcov is a bit less tolerant of it than you (inline asm and calling

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.1 (again)

2011-06-10 Thread Rugxulo
the internal piping :-\ Not sure what internal piping means here. You mean because it also supports Gzip? ### 7ZDECWAT (from major versions 4.65 or 9.20 please) https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/7zdec912.zip?attredirects=0 9.12 was buggy and beta ... I'm pretty sure I vaguely checked, and 7zdecode

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.1 (again)

2011-06-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: ### 7ZDECWAT (from major versions 4.65 or 9.20 please) https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/7zdec912.zip?attredirects=0 9.12 was buggy and beta ... Well, I wouldn't recommend 7zdecode from 4.65 since it didn't

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, quick reply from memory, others can answer too of course, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Dear developer list, could anyone please help me out with a config.sys/autoexec.bat implementation of NLS-specific settings? I'm horribly confused by how startup

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 29-6-2011 23:07, Rugxulo schreef: 2037, 2039 are the only ones supported (not counting 2040, which is unreleased). You might want to check the kernel list archives. Jim seems to be on holiday so nothing

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: I live in the USA, so don't have a need for any alternative language settings in my everyday life. Ditto. But we're behind the times. I think only 24% of the world (or some such small number) is monolingual. Everybody

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Henrique Peron hpe...@terra.com.br wrote: Well, what explicit languages are you trying to support? Honestly, if you don't care about full NLS, you don't need everything and the kitchen sink. Latin-1 (850 or 819) is pretty much all you need for the common

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Saluton, scipovanto!:-) On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Henrique Peron hpe...@terra.com.br wrote: Hi Ruĝulo, No offense to anybody, but even I know MS i18n codepage support is a joke. They never even bothered supporting Latins 1-4. I did make a bootdisk a while back (year ago?)

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Saluton denove, On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Saluton, scipovanto!    :-) On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Henrique Peron hpe...@terra.com.br wrote: Hi Ruĝulo, I did make a bootdisk a while back (year ago?) intending to demo the codepage stuff

Re: [Freedos-devel] OpenWatcom 1.9 for DOS -- smaller DOS-only .7z package

2011-07-01 Thread Rugxulo
and you can swap 'til the cows come home.) I assume this is more pleasant than downloading 80 MB .EXE installer (see iBiblio) which you don't need, esp. for those who still have dialup or slow connections (or minimalists, heh). https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ow19dos.7z?attredirects=0d=1

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, quick reply, (others know way more than I do here), On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Edwin Rhodes edwin_rho...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello I am trying to find watcom tcpip drivers and utils to connect a 286 running dos 5 to the internet I have an 3c509 card packet driver and neeed watcom tcp

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 3-7-2011 1:54, François Revol schreef: Any of those two supports IPv6 ? So FreeDOS can survive the IPcalypse :D Don't think so. Stuff I can think of which is missing: 1) WGET/CURL I guess you mean Mike plans to

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, Just some brief comments. On 6/30/11, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I did make a bootdisk a while back (year ago?) intending to demo the codepage stuff with FreeDOS, but I never finished it At risk of boring everyone (or even accidentally spamming the group), I'll post my

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/2/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 3-7-2011 2:59, Rugxulo schreef: I guess you mean Mike plans to write something like this one day. We do already have a port of WGET (via DJGPP), but I've not heavily tested it. (Or did you mean one with IPv6 support?? Dunno ...) http

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/5/11, François Revol re...@free.fr wrote: Le mardi 05 juillet 2011 à 03:23 -0500, Rugxulo a écrit : That's not helping a hey let's boot from floppy, configure internet access and install from downloaded/mounted ISO file Floppies just don't hold enough. Add to that the fact

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP FTP performance (Was: watcom tcp

2011-07-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, (yes, I tried trimming the quote, but it almost all seems vaguely relevant, ugh) At risk of embarrassing myself (again) by showing my ignorance ... Mike, you said this: Disk becomes the major bottleneck on the faster machines. Doesn't FTP know the filesize of file-to-be-downloaded

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/8/11, Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com wrote: they are available here. http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/index.html I've never used cURL, but apparently latest is 7.21.7. I blindly wonder if it'll still compile with DJGPP + WATT-32 (too preoccupied to personally try right now, doh).

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-07-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/10/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Also going to run UPX (--best --8086) over it to reduce filesize:) --ultra-brute --lzma --8086 is optimal. But LZMA is a lot slower to unpack on really ancient machines, hence why it's not default for dos/mz. Heck, I think there's even

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-07-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/10/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Pretty stuck at using EDIT as a baseline replacement of MS EDIT. Other programs always welcome as extension. Well, the 64 kb file limit was a bit of a put-off for me, personally. Maybe good for average use, I guess (just not my favorite

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP FTP performance (Was: watcom tcp

2011-07-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/10/11, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: On 7/10/2011 10:25 AM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Op 7-7-2011 13:58, Michael B. Brutman schreef: Mike Mike, do you have any experience using UPX (executable file compressor) on your programs? I'm wondering if 1) programs still load

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated INSTALL program

2011-07-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/12/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: With the risk of having used an outdated binary (and lacking compiler environment for your official source-code-only release): Install 4.01 isn't complete but it is stable for use in the next 1.1 Test distribution. By the time the Install

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated INSTALL program

2011-07-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/12/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: BTW, feel free to nag some of us to (re)translate for Install. I see your /nls/ directory already has 12 languages (or perhaps 11 not counting .en). I will definitely need help in translating the strings, but I figured I would wait to ask

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated INSTALL program

2011-07-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On 7/12/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 12-7-2011 18:51, Rugxulo schreef: I was more thinking of running INSTALL for each disk. Pity we lack an INKEY option like 4DOS has. It's a mixture between CHOICE (single key except special keys) and SET /P (input requires pressing

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated INSTALL program

2011-07-12 Thread Rugxulo
bother with a tiny workaround. PS: Maybe Rugxulo can come up with a static DOS libzip makefile. I'd appreciate the help! Rugxulo, if you could craft an OpenWatcom WMAKE makefile that compiles a status libzip.lib (using -ml) then that would be a big step forward. Well, as mentioned in private

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-07-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/13/11, Aitor Santamaría aitor...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Why's KEYB 2.0 crashing under JEMMEX? (see below #1) 3) Why's KEYB 2.0 crashing when clean booting? (see below #2) 9) I think Rugxulo mentioned something about KEYB/KEYBOARD.SYS in some earlier mail? ¿? Heh. All I know

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-07-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On 7/13/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 14-7-2011 1:59, Rugxulo schreef: All I know is that when I tried a few months ago, it seemed the KEY*.SYS files from 2009 choked on KEYB, but those older ones (2.5?) from 2006 worked fine. That may?? be what you're experiencing

Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

2011-07-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/14/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 15-7-2011 0:42, Eduardo Casino schreef: Nope. INT2F/122b and INT2f/122d are not implemented in kernel 2040 (they were in 2039) Don't use NLSFUNC with kernel 2040. Ouch. Good to know, I'll take this into account. NLSFUNC seemed to work

Re: [Freedos-devel] Testing evaluating the 1.1 release

2011-07-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/16/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 16-7-2011 16:30, Michael B. Brutman schreef: Does this mean that they will be put on the CD later, or that the user has to find a different way to get them on the machine? I think that every packet driver known to man probably fits

Re: [Freedos-devel] provox dos screen reader

2011-07-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/16/11, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: The provox screen reader for dos which I would like to have added to the freedos ftp site is currently located at: http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/provox/provox7.zip Looks good so far. So, If there are any other folks on list who use

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updates to software list

2011-07-16 Thread Rugxulo
to edit the software list via a web browser, and several admin folks have the ability to update the software list in this way. You can also contact Pat, Aitor, Eric, Rugxulo, Mateusz, or Jeremy. No offense, but most of this stuff is unmaintained. In fact, that reminds me, MOVE still needs the +R bug

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updates to software list

2011-07-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/16/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Anyone got experience with the watcom port of FreeCOM yet? Or too experimental / work-in-progress? Bart said it works pretty well, but it's only in SVN (and I don't have a client installed on this machine), so you'll have to grab and build

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updates to software list

2011-07-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/16/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: Mirroring to Ibiblio has to improve still, might want to doublecheck that. Kernel, SHSUCDX and Edlin (what's a binary?) are easy examples of being outdated. Yes, this seems to have been (mostly) ignored while I was away from FreeDOS. Some

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updates to software list

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: XMGR. HIMEMX (AFAICT) has no maintainer (and/or we really need to push out that jmp $+2 fix for old 386s, i.e. unofficial version 3.33, In other words, Japheth took over HIMEMX but does not add the patch? No. In fact, he has explicitly

Re: [Freedos-devel] provox dos screen reader

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: I own the registered copy of a86, and I know 4.05 is the latest. I didn't write the provox program, merely took it over from it's original author. Apparently, 3.22 is the version used for development. Another reason why I figured it

Re: [Freedos-devel] Testing evaluating the 1.1 release

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: Most attractive to average users (rough guess): While I'm glad to see enthusiasm for what the next FreeDOS distro should include, and you've got a lot of interesting stuff above, I'll point out that this is a classic example of scope creep.

Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: I don't know that I've used this DOSSHELL before. I just tried it now, and once I got used to the key commands, it seemed easy to use, and very nice. It looks okay, but it's fairly minimal. I'd heavily prefer Doszip, honestly. The source

Re: [Freedos-devel] provox dos screen reader

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: The provox screen reader for dos which I would like to have added to the freedos ftp site is currently located at: [...] Included with this zip file is the a86 assembler used to compile Just for the record, A86 is shareware, so in theory

Re: [Freedos-devel] Testing evaluating the 1.1 release

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 17-7-2011 23:23, Rugxulo schreef: This was merely an exercise at naming popular, i.e. heavily-desired, apps that most common users might probably want. It is not intended to reflect my own goofy needs. And besides, most of these already

Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1

2011-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/17/11, Steve Nickolas lyricalnan...@usotsuki.hoshinet.org wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Rugxulo wrote: Doszip at least can build with OpenWatcom and JWasm, so that's good. Can the 16-bit version of DOS Navigator be made to build on OpenWatcom? That's a pretty good shell (Norton

Re: [Freedos-devel] provox dos screen reader

2011-07-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/18/11, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Rugxulo wrote: However, DTC.LIB doesn't seem to have sources, but I'm not sure what exactly that does or if it's needed or what the deal is The dtc.lib is the library required to talk to dectalk

Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 20-7-2011 3:20, Rugxulo schreef: You might need FreeCOM 0.84-pre2, I think. It has set /e (but needs %TEMP% !!) and cdd works for c:\path\blah.exe. Otherwise, you'll have to hack up a quick tool or use something

Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I also had written a silly WHATDRIV.COM util used on one of my floppies, but I can't remember why. Maybe I was expecting someone to convert to .ISO (mkbiso) or whatever. Not sure if that would help here or not. My

[Freedos-devel] .BAT tricks (%RANDOM%, ANSI escapes in %PROMPT%)

2011-07-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, I'm not sure this is anything that anybody but me would find interesting. Still In lieu of %RANDOM% (Win32's CMD) or whatever 4DOS offers, I just now had to hack up my own stupid way of doing things. Really, the only reason is to use ANSI escapes in my prompt and change the color

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Bootsplash?

2011-07-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,:-)) On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: Does anyone know the origin of Bootsplash that was included in FreeDOS 1.0? I'm going through the software list, making sure everything is in order before Bernd makes the next 1.1-test release, and realized

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to find xHarbour?

2011-07-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: I am updating the 'devel' side of the FreeDOS software list, and cannot find any DOS binaries for xHarbour. Can anyone help me? I also need corresponding source code. I've never used xHarbour or xBASE or MS Clipper. I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to find xHarbour?

2011-07-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, I recognize your name from random posts, but I can't place it. Well, just saying, you must be valuable (in general)! ;-) On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: The current 3.0 sources have a dos-make.exe file in the archive, don't know if that is

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to find xHarbour?

2011-07-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: If the development of FreeDOS keeps sticking to it's original goal of providing a complete, free, 100% MS-DOS compatible operating system (http://www.freedos.org/freedos/about/), then the focus should be on exactly

Re: [Freedos-devel] .BAT tricks (%RANDOM%, ANSI escapes in %PROMPT%)

2011-07-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: A better way could definitely be done in a variety of languages (BWBASIC? DEBUG?). Just for completeness, I did whip up a quick 8086 asm snippet for DEBUG

Re: [Freedos-devel] {Spam?} Re: .BAT tricks (%RANDOM%, ANSI escapes in %PROMPT%)

2011-07-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, BTW, I don't know why it says {Spam?} in the topic. Surely you don't consider either of us spammers. But perhaps your mail reader / service marked it? (wouldn't be surprised) On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 25-7-2011 23:51, Rugxulo schreef: P.S

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Steve Nickolas lyricalnan...@usotsuki.hoshinet.org wrote: Exe2bin: Not all software uses compilers which create COM directly. PC DOS 2000 doesn't even *have* exe2bin. I'm not sure about MS-DOS 6.22 since I can't find an online listing. (I used to

Re: [Freedos-devel] .BAT tricks (%RANDOM%, ANSI escapes in %PROMPT%)

2011-07-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com wrote: I seem to remember a DOS driver called NNANSI.SYS some time ago which gave the console ANSI escape sequences. I presume you mean this (now GPL): http://almy.us/dospage.html

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Joe Cosentino hardmar...@comcast.net wrote: Who gives a shit? I don't know, that's why I'm bringing it up. Constructive criticism is welcome (but ...). It's included in MS-DOS 6.22, it'll be included in FreeDOS. That's not a good metric since, as

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Joe Cosentino hardmar...@comcast.net wrote: can't you find something better to bitch about?  Or how about fixing something while you're at it? This might be a good time to practice what you preach. Sorry dude, but I've done more to advance this project

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-26 Thread Rugxulo
, DOS386, Japheth, Wolf, FAT32 dude [can't remember], Imre, Rene, Ben, Arkady, Lucho, ...) etc. etc. etc. (and that's just from *memory*!). Both of you have had a considerable influence. You with a lot of basic tools/programs, Rugxulo managed to keep things up to date, as well as compiling

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Steve Nickolas lyricalnan...@usotsuki.hoshinet.org wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Rugxulo wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Joe Cosentino hardmar...@comcast.net wrote: It's included in MS-DOS 6.22, it'll be included in FreeDOS. That's not a good

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Steve Nickolas lyricalnan...@usotsuki.hoshinet.org wrote: Some versions of MS-DOS even included LIB (I have some specimens of 2.x and 3.x that do).  DEC's releases for the Rainbow even had MASM (!). Now that is surprising! I wonder which version (and why

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-27 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 04:11 PM 7/26/2011, Rugxulo wrote: It's just hard to imagine why they would ever include LINK and EXE2BIN when nothing comes with DOS that can use them. BASICA/GW-BASIC surely didn't. I don't know, I'm not as savvy

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-27 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, (sorry for dragging this out so long!!) On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I know users can get a real programming tool themselves, I'm just saying, having it built-in is more useful overall. It's not that I think BWBASIC is bad, just far from complete

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-27 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 10:32 PM 7/26/2011, Steve Nickolas wrote: Can't remember (prolly 2.0).  It was on the MS-DOS 2.01 master. I am fairly certain that whatever DEC Rainbow version of MS-DOS 2.01 you have that this is the same

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-27 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 11:08 PM 7/26/2011, Rugxulo wrote: Well, .BAT isn't exactly Turing complete, last I checked. Why would that possibly matter? Hmmm? The whole point was about what is/was included by default, e.g. DEBUG vs. QBASIC

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 09:06 PM 7/27/2011, Rugxulo wrote: I've seen some strange hacks, but .BAT is far from ideal for normal computations. It's not supposed to do computations, it's for file scripting. Do due with what's available... I

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 28-7-2011 4:30, Jim Michaels schreef: and cdrtools for dos? http://sites.google.com/site/blairdude/cdrkit  contains CDRKIT v1.1.9 I'm not aware of any recent DOS CDRTOOLS ports. Old one is 2.01 (

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 28-7-2011 4:02, Jim Michaels schreef: is there a way you can selectively choose what parts you want to install? like select all but uncheck arachne, lynx, and bobcat? could you add cURL for DOS? Currently used

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:03 AM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: In short, I don't think EXE2BIN belongs in BASE for FreeDOS. So do I. I don't know of anybody using it I don't use it and have no clue for what it is supposed to be useful. In old days, MASM, LINK, EXE2BIN was the norm.

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: BTW, what's the goal of EDLIN ??? Never used it ... It is there for nostalgic reasons and aims to be the DOS text editor which is translated into most languages ;-) Presumably it's for limited automated scripting (e.g.

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXE2BIN

2011-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 29-7-2011 19:02, Rugxulo schreef: I can't even recall what WDE was for anymore. disk editor, basically for viewing raw disks and/or editing or saving bits to wherever. Not useful except for hardcore nerds. http

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeCOM SVN (was: Updates to software list)

2011-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/11, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Anyone got experience with the watcom port of FreeCOM yet? Or too experimental / work-in-progress? Bart said it works pretty well, but it's only in SVN (and I don't have

Re: [Freedos-devel] UPX and XFDISK (was: EXE2BIN)

2011-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: UPX is convenient to have around indeed, if space limited. The bugreports showed that the extra FDISK utility included in FreeDOS doesn't like UPX due to a file checksum (integrity test) being done before running

Re: [Freedos-devel] Edlin 2.15 binaries (was: Updates to software list)

2011-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: We use an online tool to edit the software list via a web browser, and several admin folks have the ability to update the software list in this way. You can also contact Pat, Aitor, Eric, Rugxulo, Mateusz, or Jeremy

Re: [Freedos-devel] UPX and XFDISK (was: EXE2BIN)

2011-07-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Mailing me an uncompressed adjusted binary is welcome. Here it is (w/ srcs and one-byte diff): https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/XFDISK.ZIP?attredirects=0d=1 As for UPX terms, I could try LZMA and Ultra Brute

Re: [Freedos-devel] UPX and XFDISK

2011-08-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: On 8/1/2011 7:31 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Op 30-7-2011 15:29, dos386 schreef: Got the answer ??? - LZMA decompressible on 8086: YES - LZMA vs NRV/UCL: LZMA (much?) slower decompression - Ultra-Brutal-Effect:

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 2-8-2011 3:01, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: Unrelated: the software list says that the most recent version of DEVLOAD is 3.22, but I couldn't find that right away. Is that an error in the software list or did I

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 3-8-2011 0:26, Rugxulo schreef: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/devload/ thanks, noticed kernel 2040 is listed on Ibiblio now as well. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: thanks, noticed kernel 2040 is listed on Ibiblio now as well. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2040/ would you

[Freedos-devel] MD5SUM (was: Re: FreeDOS 1.1 (again))

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 4-5-2011 11:08, dos386 schreef: FBMD5 http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fbmd5.zip I think Blair still has an MD5SUM program. Not verified yet

Re: [Freedos-devel] BWBASIC 2.50 .EXE for FreeDOS (was: Re: EXE2BIN)

2011-08-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 01:59 PM 8/3/2011, Rugxulo wrote: Hence I had to basically tweak my own makefile *and* spend a long time trying to pretend I understand all the 16-bit memory models (confusing!). Anyways, the main problem was actually

Re: [Freedos-devel] BWBASIC 2.50 .EXE for FreeDOS (was: Re: EXE2BIN)

2011-08-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 10:20 PM 8/3/2011, Rugxulo wrote: In my defense, I maybe? should've just taken the easy way out and used DJGPP (which is 20+ years old, and that's as DOS as it gets, almost ...). But I didn't see a huge need or advantage

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos 1.1. :F loppy distro

2011-08-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 5-8-2011 12:02, marinellucc...@tiscali.it schreef: please remeber to create a distro with installer on floppy disk (1 or more 1,44 mb disk) I'm not sure FreeDOS 1.1 will ever have an official floppy install, at least

[Freedos-devel] eSpeak (was: Re: provox dos screen reader)

2011-08-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, I recently stumbled upon the old 2007 FreeDOS technote (Dietmar Segbert) talking about eSpeak (GPLv3): http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/technote/231.html http://espeak.sourceforge.net/ http://www.braillnet.cz/~rehak/soft/sox12dos.zip

Re: [Freedos-devel] ancient new freecom external app running bug fixed yet?

2011-08-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: A delayed reply to Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2: You might need FreeCOM 0.84-pre2, I think. It has set /e (but needs %TEMP% !!) and cdd works for c:\path\blah.exe. Otherwise, you... I wasn't aware SET /E

Re: [Freedos-devel] ancient new freecom external app running bug fixed yet?

2011-08-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: * has anyone managed to get SHELLHIGH working for whichever shell/program? Might be that FreeCOM is simply too large. And it has only very limited use, given that most of FreeCOM will swap to XMS when available anyway

Re: [Freedos-devel] ancient new freecom external app running bug fixed yet?

2011-08-09 Thread Rugxulo
it (since you had mentioned it): https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/FREECOM.ZIP?attredirects=0d=1 It has two binaries, but I didn't personally test the 8086 (non-XMS) one at all. (In fact, IIRC, I don't think the build process rebuilt KSSF or VSPAWN at all, so I had to do it manually

Re: [Freedos-devel] ancient new freecom external app running bug fixed yet?

2011-08-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: * has anyone managed to get SHELLHIGH working for whichever shell/program? Might be that FreeCOM is simply too large. I find a MUCH more annoying problem with FreeCOM now: Version 0.84 pre 2 always! hangs after it

[Freedos-devel] ANSI C (C89) locale.h -- DOS compiler support?

2011-09-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi guys, Just curious, does anybody know of a C compiler that actually supports a *functional* locale.h ?? It doesn't seem like most (if any) barely support it, if at all. Kinda strange since it's a requirement for ANSI C (1989), esp. since the DOS support is presumably there (COUNTRY.SYS +

Re: [Freedos-devel] ANSI C (C89) locale.h -- DOS compiler support?

2011-09-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Decheng Fan fandech...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys,   Just curious, does anybody know of a C compiler that actually supports a *functional* locale.h ?? It doesn't seem like most (if any) barely

Re: [Freedos-devel] ANSI C (C89) locale.h -- DOS compiler support?

2011-09-07 Thread Rugxulo
Well, just a quick follow up, Apparently the best I can get in DOS is DJGPP via (recompiled) /current/v2tk/llocl02s.zip (liblocal) w/ DJGPP 2.03p2 (only!). I tested under cp869 Greek (kernel 2040 + COUNTRY.SYS), and it mostly seemed to work correctly. (Feel free to e-mail me if you want the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Freedos and lack of drivers

2011-09-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 10-9-2011 9:47, Jim Michaels schreef: I could see multithreading support in 7-zip. but then again files aren't usually very big in DOS. I don't know if OpenWATCOM or DJGPP has support for POSIX threads. Programs

Re: [Freedos-devel] ANSI C (C89) locale.h -- DOS compiler support?

2011-09-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Well, just a quick follow up, Just for completeness, I should mention that I notice that Digital Mars supports locale.h (not via COUNTRY.SYS) with a few countries in DOS: http://www.digitalmars.com/rtl/locale.html

Re: [Freedos-devel] Freedos and lack of drivers

2011-09-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: [...] Not useless, really. For example, MS-DOS 5 introduced their DOS Shell that supported task switching, a rudimentary form of multitasking. You could also (allegedly) just change your Win3x or Win9x shell= line

Re: [Freedos-devel] Freedos and lack of drivers

2011-09-12 Thread Rugxulo
, but that's harder to find nowadays (and old cpus break, like mine, eek). Honestly, Windows/NTVDM or Linux/DOSEMU is good (and necessary) for both multitasking and networking. I think those two things are the killer features (though people always whine about 640 kb or segments or LFNs too). Rugxulo

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 06:20 PM 9/16/2011, Rugxulo wrote: I guess it would be more crucial if there was a portable (a la POSIX) standard for DOS.   ;-)) Considering all the variants out there, it's not the worst idea in the world (IMHO

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