Re: [Freedos-user] Zip 750 Atapi and freedos...

2020-03-16 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Michael, > I propose an optional USB driver in Freedos. I propose that you first test the already existing free USB drivers for DOS ;-) Not with floppy or CD but with harddisks and USB flash sticks.

Re: [Freedos-user] Zip 750 Atapi and freedos...

2020-03-16 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/16/2020 2:28 PM, mich...@robinson-west.com wrote: Doesn't work in Windows XP without Iomegaware... how about freedos? As freedos is not designed to support USB, USB floppy will not work. Short of getting the source code to the AMI Bios on my EVOC SBC, I'm not going to make a real floppy

[Freedos-user] Zip 750 Atapi and freedos...

2020-03-16 Thread michael
Doesn't work in Windows XP without Iomegaware... how about freedos? As freedos is not designed to support USB, USB floppy will not work. Short of getting the source code to the AMI Bios on my EVOC SBC, I'm not going to make a real floppy controller work... What are the implications of creating

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeD OS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
But Felix In many cases, all one needs to do Is grab an old laptop, install ms dos via cd, attach a dectalk or little talk or doubble talk or reading edge, or etc. etc., grab the games and enjoy the ride. i have such a laptop sitting in my office, although I use DOS for far more than

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeD OS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Bret, Your points are important for a serious screen reader, because the commands to access speech, read the current line or sections of the screen, etc., incorporate those modifier keys. That is done so the screen reader works in harmony with the system, real ms dos in this case. My

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 16/03/2020 20:35, Karen Lewellen wrote: Joseph, you opted for the braille and speak emulator, does that mean there exist other synthesizer emulators, for example is there a type & speak one or  a dectalk one? I did some research and did not find any. The braille and speak system has been

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Let me answer this in part. Felix in no way shape form or fashion can speak to for hundreds of millions of individuals who experience blindness. That his highly convoluted solution works for him speak to no one else at all but himself. Making a judgment about incorporating access into

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
um, gosh there is a sftp client included in sshdos that works for me several times a day. May be no need to re-invent the wheel if you already have an ftp client built into freedos, since using freedos is the ultimate goal here? On Mon, 16 Mar 2020, Eric Auer wrote: Hi! Interesting that

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Mateusz, and Joseph. I have a couple of extra questions. Joseph, you opted for the braille and speak emulator, does that mean there exist other synthesizer emulators, for example is there a type & speak one or a dectalk one? Mateusz, your explainations help me a great deal. My

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
ahem, On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Ralf Quint wrote: Well, talking about "as of yet" in relation to DOS is a bit far fetched, after all, DOS (as far as a mainstream OS) is pretty much dead for 25 years. I take it you have neither joined lists like dos ain't dead, or followed the djppp project,

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: book reading via text to speech on e-book readers

2020-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Speaking personally, the site says nothing about how the touch screen would be accessed inclusively. There were no voice samples on the site either that I can find. Still if someone has the device I can give you a way to test from pronunciation based on a common complaint I hear from those

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-16 Thread Random Liegh via Freedos-user
On 3/15/2020 11:08 AM, Rugxulo wrote: My 486s, back in the day, were quite slow and underpowered (Sx/25 with either 4 or 8 MB RAM and small hard drives [170 MB or 250 MB or such]). In some ways, I wish I had one again (in fully working order), just to benchmark stuff. It seems like one of

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeD OS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Felix G.
Which is exactly why I'd love to boot natively into DOS, but as soon as I do this, my accessibility provisions break down. This is why I sometimes tend to sound like a grumpy old accessibility evangelist ranting about how everything is so much more complicated just because one sensory channel

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeD OS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Bret Johnson
I'm not sure if it will end up being relevant to this discussion or not, but I use VMWare version 14 under Windows 10 to create a virtual machine for DOS. I prefer MS-DOS to FreeDOS for various reasons, though I do use some of the FreeDOS utilities. I actually have the machine set up to

[Freedos-user] notes about setting up the ftp server.

2020-03-16 Thread joseph.norton
Hi Felix If you decide to go the ftp route, here are a couple things you will need to do and some example files you will need to edit. First, once you install FreeDOS, the networking stuff will not be installed by default. To install them, run fdimples. Press down arrow until you hear ASAP say

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Felix G.
Hi Mateusz, I agree it is convoluted, but it's fun to play with such things. The user experience is less than optimum because NVDA has its own ideas about what part of a terminal window has changed between consecutive states. So the virtualization approach is not off the table and is, indeed,

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Mateusz Viste
Wow, that is much more convoluted than I was expecting. I'm impressed you were able to figure out such a solution. Is this NVDA-over-ssh-over-dosemu approach providing satisfying usability compared to a native DOS screen reader like JAWS or ASAP? In other words, is there any point in trying

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Felix G.
Hi Mateusz, I logged into a Linux server via SSH from Windows, installed Dosemu, then started Dosemu with the -t option, putting it into terminal mode. In effect, my Windows screen reader, which is called NVDA, detects and reads changes to that terminal session, thereby giving access to the DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 16/03/2020 13:12, Felix G. wrote: In the meantime I was able to play the Time And Magik trilogy by Level 9 in Dosemu2, using the current FreeDOS kernel 1.2 May I ask how you achieved this? Have you managed to install a screen reader within DOSemu, which would talk through some Linux TTS?

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Interesting that ftp between guest and host OS is popular even for DOS. So maybe you want to try VMSMOUNT: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/vmsmount.html "A DOS redirector for mounting VMware's shared folders" Current version is from

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Felix G.
Made my day! I'll try the FTP way, then I won't constantly be creating ISOs just because something else came to mind. In the meantime I was able to play the Time And Magik trilogy by Level 9 in Dosemu2, using the current FreeDOS kernel 1.2, so functionally I'm already mostly where I wanted to be.

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread joseph.norton
Hi: VMWare itself does not provide a solution for copying files into the DOS system. However, one way I did is using ftp. FreeDOS comes with an ftp server that you can start up. You need to edit the configuration file to put in the User name and password you want to set up, then, once you start

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Mateusz Viste
Here is one link I found with PROVOX: http://www.nfbnet.org/files/blind/PROVOX66.ZIP I'd be really curious to know if it's good for anything - myself, I was unable to make it output anything more than beeps so far. cheers, Mateusz On 16/03/2020 11:32, joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi:

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread joseph.norton
Hi: I forgot to mention that the author of ASAP, Larry Skutchan has given me permission to include ASAP with the package, as long as I include a statement from him. I put it in one of the readme files under the ASAP directory, but, essentially, Larry Skutchan is ok with me distributing ASAP in my

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hello Joseph, Thank you for the very detailed instructions - that's exactly what I was planning to test today, but it seems you did all the work already. To keep it short for other readers of this list, here's how it works: 1. FreeDOS must be installed inside a virtualization solution (I

Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeDOS as a blind user

2020-03-16 Thread Felix G.
Hi Joseph and list, this is an amazing community, and I would like to say thank you for all the valuable help I am getting here. Since this is a process of playful learning for me, all your responses have been most welcome, and all have been useful to different degrees and in different areas. Your