Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread C. Masloch
I'm not sure if this is a bug, misfeature, lack of testing (re: FreeDOS specifically vs. arcane dark corners of MS-DOS), or user error. You don't need to be sure, because I am sure enough what it is. And what it is, is completely broken file system semantics. Nothing to do with arcane dark

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:23 AM, C. Masloch c...@bttr-software.de wrote: The problem is that even with FreeDOS's SHARE loaded, file system corruption occurs (reproducibly), and in cases that do not fail on MS-DOS with MS-DOS's SHARE loaded. In very rare cases only, though. If there are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread C. Masloch
In very rare cases only, though. Irrelevant. Admittedly nobody wants corruption, but I don't think most people rely on deleting open files (except POSIX, so it's probably only a problem when porting GNU stuff to DJGPP). Inaccurate. RBIL's notes seldom refer to programs that target POSIX.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Bret Johnson
So if they aren't overly concerned, I guess I shouldn't be either. FWIW, I use MS-DOS on a daily basis instead of FD for reasons like this. MS-DOS is, by far, the most stable of the DOS's, and is still the minimum standard to which others must compare. I would classify possible file

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread C. Masloch
FWIW, I use MS-DOS on a daily basis instead of FD for reasons like this. MS-DOS is, by far, the most stable of the DOS's, and is still the minimum standard to which others must compare. I would classify possible file corruption as a major problem, not a side issue. You do always load

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Bret Johnson
You do always load its SHARE though, right? No, not by default. According to the official documentation (e.g., the MS-DOS on-line HELP utility), you only need SHARE in a network or multi-tasking environment, which doesn't apply to my current situation.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread C. Masloch
No, not by default. According to the official documentation (e.g., the MS-DOS on-line HELP utility), you only need SHARE in a network or multi-tasking environment, which doesn't apply to my current situation. Then the particular problem in question is generally not a reason to prefer

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:11 AM, C. Masloch c...@bttr-software.de wrote: In very rare cases only, though. Irrelevant. Maybe to you and me, but most developers seem to weigh the issue with how much time and effort vs. how important it is. To them, it makes perfect sense to ignore things

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: So if they aren't overly concerned, I guess I shouldn't be either. FWIW, I use MS-DOS on a daily basis instead of FD for reasons like this. MS-DOS is, by far, the most stable of the DOS's, and is still the minimum

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:09 PM, C. Masloch c...@bttr-software.de wrote: Well, the whole point of FreeDOS existing at all is that MS dropped the ball, and they wanted a free alternative that they could update and share freely. ... which does not necessitate strong copyleft, as we all

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Jim Hall
While you and I may prefer BSD-ish licenses for various reasons (esp. since if a developer hates the GPL, they won't contribute at all, which seemingly defeats the point), the majority of enthusiasts by far prefer and use GPLv2, esp. here in FreeDOS (hi, Jim!). GPL isn't bad, per se, just