Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU

[Joseph Norton]

Hi Jim:

Great to hear from you.

I am using the example command from the EBook, only I’m using FD13LGCY.ISO.

When I run QEMU, it gives me a warning about the freedos.img being a RAW image, 
and that writing to block 0 is restricted.  But, the install takes me through 
fdisk and it says it partitions it.  Then, it reboots and formats.  After 
format, it says it’s gathering information, hangs and eventually says it can’t 
find the package.

I am a blind user, so my screen reader is doing OCR on the screen so I have 
some idea what’s going on.

I’m going to try sighted assistance later and see if I’m leaving something out.

Meantime, I’m using 1.3RC1 under VMWare Player, and So far, no major problems 
under 1.3RC1.  For now, it’s doing what I want.

Would say more, but, this is the third time I’ve tried to write this, and wiped 
it out twice.  Going to get some sleep.

Looking forward to the official 1.3 release.


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From: Jim Hall
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 12:58 PM
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU



On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 9:17 AM Joseph Norton  wrote:
Hi listers:
 
I’m trying to install FreeDOS with QEMU, and I get as far as formatting the hd, 
then, the installation says it can’t find the package files.
 
I used the example in the Using FreeDOS Ebook, but, I did have to create the 
“freedos.img” file, which was not covered.
 
I’m planning to do some more troubleshooting later myself, but, if this has 
been run into before, I would appreciate any advice.
 
Probably something I’m not typing in the command-line for either the image 
creation or the startup.
 


First, you need to create the virtual disk image file that QEMU will use as 
your C: drive. Do this:

qemu-img create freedos.img 300M


Then you boot FreeDOS in QEMU. Note that QEMU takes a ton of command line 
arguments to define each part of the virtual machine. Here's my command line:

qemu-system-i386 -m 32 -k en-us -rtc base=localtime -soundhw sb16,adlib,pcspk 
-device cirrus-vga -display gtk -hda freedos.img -cdrom FD12CD.iso -drive 
file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos -boot order=c


To break that apart:

qemu-system-i386 is the command to run QEMU

-m 32 sets the machine to use 32MB of memory

-k en-us sets the keyboard to US/English (you should be able to omit this and 
QEMU will pick up your host system's keyboard language)

-rtc base=localtime defines the real time clock to use your host system's local 
time

-soundhw sb16,adlib,pcspk creates the sound hardware, using SoundBlaster16 with 
AdLib music, and PC speaker emulation (through your host system's sound card)

-device cirrus-vga defines a standard Cirrus Logic VGA card (should work with 
every DOS application)

-display gtk uses GTK (GNOME) for the display environment (gives a nice little 
window with controls)

-hda freedos.img defines the C: drive ("hda" in "Linux-speak") as the 
freedos.img file you created earlier

-cdrom FD12CD.iso says to use the FreeDOS 1.2 CDROM image as the CDROM

-drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos emulates a "D:" drive from a folder 
(/home/jhall/dos) in my Linux home directory. If you want to do this, use a 
directory in your own Linux home directory. Don't modify the contents of 
/home/jhall/dos (or whatever directory you set here) while QEMU is running 
because QEMU will likely get confused.

-boot order=c says to boot the C: drive first (use -boot order=d to boot from 
the CDROM). So use -boot order=d when you install FreeDOS, and use -boot 
order=c after that.

More info here:
https://opensource.com/article/17/10/run-dos-applications-linux

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Re: [Freedos-user] Sharing announcements about FreeDOS programs

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On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:12 PM Thomas Mueller  wrote:

> > I can't find an unsubscribe link to FreeDos. Could you point me at that,
> or
> > take me off of the list?
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> > Thanks,
>
> > - Steve Owens
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> My first thought was to look through the headers.  I found (excerpt)
>
> List-Id: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."
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> List-Unsubscribe: <
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Also, at the bottom of every email sent through the lists, you have this
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[Freedos-user] Sharing announcements about FreeDOS programs

[Thomas Mueller]

> I can't find an unsubscribe link to FreeDos. Could you point me at that, or
> take me off of the list? 

> Thanks,

> - Steve Owens

My first thought was to look through the headers.  I found (excerpt)

List-Id: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."

List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 

List-Post: 
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Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOSers Monthly Reminder

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On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 01:39:07PM -0500, Steve Owens wrote:
>Hi John -
>I can't find an unsubscribe link to FreeDos. Could you point me at
>that, or take me off of the list?
>Thanks,
>- Steve Owens
> 

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Hi John -

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Thanks,

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU

[Jim Hall]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:04 PM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On Saturday, June 15, 2019 12:57 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:
>
> ...
> Then you boot FreeDOS in QEMU. Note that QEMU takes a ton of command line
> arguments to define each part of the virtual machine. Here's my command
> line:
>
> qemu-system-i386 -m 32 -k en-us -rtc base=localtime -soundhw
> sb16,adlib,pcspk -device cirrus-vga -display gtk -hda freedos.img -cdrom
> FD12CD.iso -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos -boot order=c
> ...
>
>
> And for those of us who would rather forgo full command lines like that
> (me) there's AQEMU . :)
>
>
GNOME Boxes also runs QEMU as a back end. It doesn't provide the full
customization that a command line (or AQEMU, it seems) would give you, but
GNOME Boxes works fine.

Here's a video of me installing FreeDOS 1.2 on GNOME Boxes:
(pay attention to the "reboot after FDISK" problem & workaround starting at
about 3:20)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On5eZdDGsCo


Also, here's a video of me installing FreeDOS 1.2 on QEMU:
(this uses a longer definition of the C: drive and CDROM ... the -hda option
and -cdrom option are shortcuts to do the same)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o09FLGmbdp4
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU

[Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user]

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 12:57 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:

> ...
> Then you boot FreeDOS in QEMU. Note that QEMU takes a ton of command line 
> arguments to define each part of the virtual machine. Here's my command line:
>
> qemu-system-i386 -m 32 -k en-us -rtc base=localtime -soundhw sb16,adlib,pcspk 
> -device cirrus-vga -display gtk -hda freedos.img -cdrom FD12CD.iso -drive 
> file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos -boot order=c
> ...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU

[Jim Hall]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 9:17 AM Joseph Norton 
wrote:

> Hi listers:
>
>
>
> I’m trying to install FreeDOS with QEMU, and I get as far as formatting
> the hd, then, the installation says it can’t find the package files.
>
>
>
> I used the example in the Using FreeDOS Ebook, but, I did have to create
> the “freedos.img” file, which was not covered.
>
>
>
> I’m planning to do some more troubleshooting later myself, but, if this
> has been run into before, I would appreciate any advice.
>
>
>
> Probably something I’m not typing in the command-line for either the image
> creation or the startup.
>
>
>
>
First, you need to create the virtual disk image file that QEMU will use as
your C: drive. Do this:

qemu-img create freedos.img 300M


Then you boot FreeDOS in QEMU. Note that QEMU takes a ton of command line
arguments to define each part of the virtual machine. Here's my command
line:

qemu-system-i386 -m 32 -k en-us -rtc base=localtime -soundhw
sb16,adlib,pcspk -device cirrus-vga -display gtk -hda freedos.img -cdrom
FD12CD.iso -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos -boot order=c


To break that apart:

qemu-system-i386 is the command to run QEMU

-m 32 sets the machine to use 32MB of memory

-k en-us sets the keyboard to US/English (you should be able to omit this
and QEMU will pick up your host system's keyboard language)

-rtc base=localtime defines the real time clock to use your host system's
local time

-soundhw sb16,adlib,pcspk creates the sound hardware, using SoundBlaster16
with AdLib music, and PC speaker emulation (through your host system's
sound card)

-device cirrus-vga defines a standard Cirrus Logic VGA card (should work
with every DOS application)

-display gtk uses GTK (GNOME) for the display environment (gives a nice
little window with controls)

-hda freedos.img defines the C: drive ("hda" in "Linux-speak") as the
freedos.img file you created earlier

-cdrom FD12CD.iso says to use the FreeDOS 1.2 CDROM image as the CDROM

-drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos emulates a "D:" drive from a folder
(/home/jhall/dos) in my Linux home directory. If you want to do this, use a
directory in your own Linux home directory. Don't modify the contents of
/home/jhall/dos (or whatever directory you set here) *while QEMU is running*
because QEMU will likely get confused.

-boot order=c says to boot the C: drive first (use -boot order=d to boot
from the CDROM). So use -boot order=d when you install FreeDOS, and use -boot
order=c after that.

More info here:
https://opensource.com/article/17/10/run-dos-applications-linux
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Re: [Freedos-user] ot: run time issues?

[Ralf Quint]

On 6/15/2019 6:54 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:

Pascal uses do-loops to get time delays.
As the computers get faster the do-loops get shorter
and finally fail. I use a tp program downloaded from
the web to prevent this.

nonsense...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU

[TK Chia]

Hello Joseph Norton,


I’m trying to install FreeDOS with QEMU, and I get as far as formatting the hd, 
then, the installation says it can’t find the package files.
I used the example in the Using FreeDOS Ebook, but, I did have to create the 
“freedos.img” file, which was not covered.


Did you run the following command to create freedos.img (as suggested by
the e-book)?

  qemu-img create freedos.img 200M

The idea is that freedos.img will act as _the_ virtual "hard disk" which
you will install FreeDOS _to_.  And the installation medium which you
install FreeDOS _from_ is simply the CD-ROM image (such as FD12CD.iso)
you downloaded earlier.

If you start QEMU the right way, the "hard disk" will have drive letter
C: and the CD-ROM image will have drive letter D:, and you will be
booting the virtual machine from the CD-ROM image to do the installation.

My suspicion is that you were starting QEMU in such a way that it was
erroneously formatting the installation medium.

(Alternatively, there is a different set of instructions at Wikibooks,
which I have been using, for installing FreeDOSin a QEMU VM:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/FreeDOS .)

Thank you!

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[Freedos-user] Installing with QEMU

[Joseph Norton]

Hi listers:

I’m trying to install FreeDOS with QEMU, and I get as far as formatting the hd, 
then, the installation says it can’t find the package files.

I used the example in the Using FreeDOS Ebook, but, I did have to create the 
“freedos.img” file, which was not covered.

I’m planning to do some more troubleshooting later myself, but, if this has 
been run into before, I would appreciate any advice.

Probably something I’m not typing in the command-line for either the image 
creation or the startup.

Thanks!

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Re: [Freedos-user] ot: run time issues?

[Dale E Sterner]

Pascal uses do-loops to get time delays.
As the computers get faster the do-loops get shorter
and finally fail. I use a tp program downloaded from
the web to prevent this.


cheers
DS


On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 12:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen
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> If that is the German  one, then I found it.
> Two problems, first because the output is in German, I cannot tell 
> if 
> using it produces any results.
> Second, my reading of the purpose suggests it might not work at all  
> if 
> the machine  is faster than a Pentium II, which mine most certainly 
> is.
> Lastly  I am   unclear what makes this a turbal pascal error 
> solution when 
> the  reference is to  borden? pascal 7 or higher.  granted divide 0 
> does 
> not appear in  my error message, which may put it in the 7 range. 
> regardless I require a patch that works in English.
> If this program does I will try again.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> 
> > On 14/06/2019 06:49, Ralf Quint wrote:
> >>  I just had a quick look and did not find that program to patch 
> 3rd party
> >>  programs where I thought I had a copy of it.
> >
> > No need to look into backups, tppatch is widely available on the 
> web. First 
> > google hit points to this: http://www.ipnet6.org/tppatch.html
> >
> > Mateusz
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