Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Wesley Parish wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:00, Adam Peart wrote: With Thunderbird, you can also have it sort email by threads, which is how I have it set for this mailing list another mailing list. Take it from me, sorting by threads is the only way to handle seriously large mailing lists. And making mailing list folders/directories so you don't have eveything piled on top of everything else. Yup, that's how I read the lists ... threads, and filtering mailing list stuff into a separate folder. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 07:44:08AM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Clinton is not President anymore. -- I bought a house, on a one-way dead-end road; I don't know how I got there. Have a great day and don't forget to laugh! http://www.gcfl.net (The Good, Clean Funnies List): Good, clean daily funnies you can safely tell your Mom! ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Hi! jp_freedos / gcfl.net wrote: ... Jim Hall wrote: I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Clinton is not President anymore. I think it is obvious that this signature line was not about Clinton but about a certain cowboy. While there are urban myths about the IQ of those two guys, it seems that Clinton has around 133 and that there is no data known about the other, but it is assumed that he is not really dumb either. Still his politics show little under- standing of how the world does and should work in 2006. Clinton focused on health insurance, drug abuse, weapon abuse and poverty problems, as well as on being more careful with state money. I recently read a news article that the whole world has spent 890 000 000 000 bucks on weapons and war last year, half of which were spent by the USA (considerably less than 10pc of the number of people on earth). That is considerably LESS wise in my opinion than, for example, joining the Kyoto treaties. But of course all of this is not DOS-related. Sorry for being off-topic. Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! jp_freedos / gcfl.net wrote: ... Jim Hall wrote: I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Clinton is not President anymore. I think it is obvious that this signature line was not about Clinton but about a certain cowboy. [...] But of course all of this is not DOS-related. Sorry for being off-topic. Eric ENOUGH! Please stop now! NO MORE! :-) Mark ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
At 08:26 AM 6/15/2006 -0500, jp_freedos wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 07:44:08AM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Clinton is not President anymore. Clinton was, among other things, a Rhodes Scholar, and generally conceded as brilliant by his peers including those who hated him for political or ethical reasons. Not that my remark is on-topic either, but it's nice to occasionally repair a few holes in the historical record wreaked by the radical right. Dragging matters back to FreeDOS, there should a new version HIMEM and EMM386 released by the end of July, although the end of June is an optimistic target if work clears up within the next week. So far no major bugfixes, but two or three compatibility fixes and modifications that may affect some users. Clearing misbehavior with a couple of DOS extenders under large free extended memory (512M-2G) conditions is a focus. I also anticipate smaller executables if the new UPX works as it should -- assuming the official UPX release has better (i.e. not open-source) compression techniques built-in, as it did in past releases. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions
I looked at oZone 0.6 some. My first questions/observations while *running it on a pure FreeDOS machine with DOSLFN loaded*: Cool - thanks! 1) I take it that CWSDPMI is not required when FreeDOS EMM386 is loaded and providing whatever DPMI support it has. True? (I did not notice any difference when I loaded CWSDPMI first.) It needs CWSDPMI in the path or directory. oZone uses it automaticly. Btw: You don't need any himem.sys or emm386! 2) It takes a long time to load, about 25 seconds on this Pentium 100 with 16 MB. (DOSSHELL loads in 2-3 seconds.) Should it take that long to load? That's very slow. But may have some reaseon: (1) it is a debug version with debug infos etc. - very slow. The final version will be optimized. (2) maybe it needs more than 16MB, then it uses virtual memory on the hard disc. 3) It is a much more modern and pleasing looking interface than DOSSHELL. Yes...DOSSHELL use the textmode I think? 4) The Console did not work for me. The window appeared, but I could not enter anything. This is a known bug. I will work on it! 5) Copy-and-paste would not work for me in Navigateur. I tried to copy a LFN file from floppy to the C drive. With the file selected, nothing appeared when I clicked the Edit menu. I right-clicked on the file and got a popup menu that let me select Copy, but in the folder on C, when I right-clicked, the popup menu did not show Paste, nor did the Edit menu show anything. This is a new problem. I have no problem with copy and paste. Have you tried DragDrop? Did you want to paste the file in another navigator window or in the same? Very important question :-) Maybe there could be a problem in an other windows. 6) DOSLFN observations (from the command prompt, not in oZone): a) I entered MD DOS Games and successfully created a directory. But CD DOS Games does not work. The directory created is DOS GAME (an 8-character name) and must be referenced that way. DIR /LFN reports the directory name as DOS GAME, not DOS GAMES. So it seems like DOSLFN does not support long directory names. FreeCOM doesn'T support LFN now. Try 4DOS or Dr-DOS's commandc.com. b) I entered EDIT Flight Of The Amazon Queen.LN and entered a command line, saved and exited. When I EDIT Flight Of The Amazon Queen.LN again, it opens the file, so LFN support seems good on that point. But DIR /LFN displays FLIGHT O.LN, so it fails to report a LFN created under its own driver. Only new programs support LFN. All programs which are compiled with DJGPP support it. I am using Setedit ( http://setedit.sf.net ). Also most File manager like Necromancer DOS Navigator or VC support it. c) On the other hand, it properly reports a LFN created under Windows XP and not edited or otherwise operated on under FreeDOS, just doing a DIR /LFN A: for a floppy where I had copied a LFN file from Win XP. 7) I could not figure out how to create program folders or items from within oZone, but poked around and found that folders created in OZONE\SYSTEM\MENU become program folders, and .LN files are program items - simple command lines as far as I could see. Yes... 8) In accord with my observations in (6), Flight Of The Amazon Queen.LN was rendered as a short-name program item named FLIGHT O. Rendered under pure DOS or in oZone? In oZone it should be displayed right. And I have no problem. How did you created it? With FreeCOM? Then this may be a problem with FreeCOM. Under pure DOS + DOSLFN I am using Necromancers DOS Navigator - it supports LFN very good. Also if you rename the file in oZone there should be no problem. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS VERY LONG BUG REPORT AND FEEDBACK!! Bye Flo -- Florian Xaver http://www.flox.at.tf Dr-DOS Wiki http://www.drdos.org oZone-a GUI operating system for DOS,Linux,Win SWORD-a nice GUI library for DOS/DJGPP http://www.flox.at.tf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Hi, I've never understood why mailing lists are so popular; surely NNTP is a far better and more efficient way to discuss things, plus it has the advantage of being able to manage archives and reduce bandwidth? Why would anyone want to send out and receive 100s of emails when you could simply view headers on a server and choose the ones of interest? Jim Hall wrote: Wesley Parish wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:00, Adam Peart wrote: With Thunderbird, you can also have it sort email by threads, which is how I have it set for this mailing list another mailing list. Take it from me, sorting by threads is the only way to handle seriously large mailing lists. And making mailing list folders/directories so you don't have eveything piled on top of everything else. Yup, that's how I read the lists ... threads, and filtering mailing list stuff into a separate folder. -jh -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SYS A: C:
Gerry Hickman wrote: OK, I guess I could use a FAT16 partition instead; if I do this, is there some way to install the DOS 6.22 boot sector to C: without actually inserting a floppy? e.g. read the saved boot sector from somewhere? OK, I tried it with a FAT16 partition 1. FDISK /PRIO:2000 2. FDISK /ACTIVATE:1 3. FORMAT C: (YES) 4. Insert DOS 6.22 floppy into drive B: 5. SYS B: C: /oem:ms (it says system transferred) When I reboot with the C drive marked Active I get two dots on a black screen and a flashing cursor, that wasn't expected... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
USENET is also pretty stuffed with spam. At least on the mailing lists, we have spam filtering to keep the noise down. Unfortunately, off-topic threads still make it through. ;-) -jh Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, I've never understood why mailing lists are so popular; surely NNTP is a far better and more efficient way to discuss things, plus it has the advantage of being able to manage archives and reduce bandwidth? Why would anyone want to send out and receive 100s of emails when you could simply view headers on a server and choose the ones of interest? Jim Hall wrote: Wesley Parish wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:00, Adam Peart wrote: With Thunderbird, you can also have it sort email by threads, which is how I have it set for this mailing list another mailing list. Take it from me, sorting by threads is the only way to handle seriously large mailing lists. And making mailing list folders/directories so you don't have eveything piled on top of everything else. Yup, that's how I read the lists ... threads, and filtering mailing list stuff into a separate folder. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
If they (T.H.E.M.) wish for my vote then I want universal healthcare and pls give break to 6.75/hr employees on taxation Geez 70 bucks in taxes is . Ow. --chris http://nxdos.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Mailing list vs forum
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:34:19 +0100, you wrote: Hi Gerry, I've never understood why mailing lists are so popular; surely NNTP is a far better and more efficient way to discuss things, plus it has the advantage of being able to manage archives and reduce bandwidth? Why would anyone want to send out and receive 100s of emails when you could simply view headers on a server and choose the ones of interest? I prefer a forum software, Simple Machines work great (I'm using it now). The login system secure no forge identity. Easy to manage, save bandwidth, you can even add your avatar. Rgds, Johnson. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SYS A: C:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:41:13 +0100, you wrote: Hi, 5. SYS B: C: /oem:ms (it says system transferred) When I reboot with the C drive marked Active I get two dots on a black screen and a flashing cursor, that wasn't expected... I suggest SYS should check the target to see it's bootable or not, otherwise don't report System Transferred since FDISK's default worry about your previous record and did not write anything to the hard disk. Rgds, Johnson. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
