Re: [Freedos-user] freedos - Modern sata dvd dual layer not found

2009-12-29 Thread dos386
   Does it run in IDE compatibility mode or in AHCI?  I don't know.
  But this IS IMPORTANT to know. None of existing DOS drivers supports AHCI.
 But How to get this information ? ! ! ! !

RTFM ??? Some hardware detection tool ???

 After booting from  FREEDOS BOOTABLE CDROM   I can access the DVDROM
 After booting from Hard Disk I cannot access DVDROM.
 But as I can access SATA HD. If both are SATA why can't I access DVDROM ?

BIOS hepls with CD/DVD only if you boot from it.


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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos - Modern sata dvd dual layer not found

2009-12-29 Thread Alain Mouette

dos386 escreveu:
 Does it run in IDE compatibility mode or in AHCI?  I don't know.
 But this IS IMPORTANT to know. None of existing DOS drivers supports AHCI.
 But How to get this information ? ! ! ! !
 RTFM ??? Some hardware detection tool ???

First of all, what is AHCI? isn't that related to USB???

 After booting from  FREEDOS BOOTABLE CDROM   I can access the DVDROM
 After booting from Hard Disk I cannot access DVDROM.
 But as I can access SATA HD. If both are SATA why can't I access DVDROM ?
 BIOS hepls with CD/DVD only if you boot from it.

When you boot from HD, you have to intall CD drivers, this is a two step 
process.

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos - Modern sata dvd dual layer not found

2009-12-29 Thread Christian Masloch
 First of all, what is AHCI? isn't that related to USB???

No. USB is related to the UHCI (USB 1.0), OHCI (USB 1.1), EHCI (USB 2.0),  
WHCI (Wireless USB) and XHCI (USB 3.0). AHCI is an interface for SATA  
controllers.

Regards,
Christian

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Re: [Freedos-user] (fdapm vs idlehalt performance and energy saving in dos)

2009-12-29 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Marcos,

thanks for the in-depth measurements :-)

1  FDAPM APMDOS  +   IDLEHALT=1 11 sec

2  FDAPM ADV:REG +   IDLEHALT=1  6 sec
3  FDAPM APMDOS  6 sec
4IDLEHALT=1  6 sec

5  FDAPM ADV:REG about half a sec
6  (nothing) about half a sec

 I adopted option 5 to work with Desi-III, of course.

I agree that this is the best option. To answer your questions:
IDLEHALT is in the kernel, you do not have to load it. You only
activate it or not. FDAPM is more advanced, but takes a bit of
DOS memory. The ADV:REG option usually saves almost as much of
your battery power as the normal APMDOS option. You do not get
extra savings by combining FDAPM and IDLEHALT, only slowness ;-)

You do not need to standby or suspend DOS - just shutdown the PC
when you do not need it and reboot it when you need it again, a
DOS system usually boots very quickly. However, FDAPM does have
support for APM BIOS standby and suspend. Whether it actually
will work and wake up properly depends on the BIOS. If you get
stuck, you can always keep the power button of your PC pressed
for several seconds to force a power-off or power-on.

Newer BIOSes do not support any APM. They only support ACPI. For
ACPI, FDAPM gives you throttling (SPEED1 to SPEED8) and poweroff
but no actually useful standby or suspend options... Throttling
means that your CPU will be halted up to 7/8 of the time, which
is also a nice thing for playing too fast old DOS games :-). It
is also possible to suspend other components with DOS PCISLEEP.

Note that all the throttling and suspending stuff does not save
much more energy than FDAPM APMDOS on a typical desktop PC if
DOS is just waiting for input at the prompt.

I also made a tool for AMD Cool n Quiet to switch my CPU
to 1 GHz and lower voltage, but this only works for the CPU
and mainboard for which you compile it. For automatic setup
for generic PC, the tool would be complex and I was lazy...


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with other OS

2009-12-29 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 I've never used FreeDOS before...
 Is it possible to log into a headless FreeDOS box from Linux?
 I'm considering setting up an electronic workbench PC with FreeDOS. 

Interesting :-) DOS is single tasking, so you cannot easily run
a telnet or ssh server and let that start a login shell such as
command.com from there. However, you can use network stacks as
wattcp (for 32bit apps in dos: watt32) to access the network...

For example there are ssh2dos and smbclient clients for ssh and
samba. There are also DOS http servers such as Ez-Nos or Sioux.

www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/

Apparently wattcp has a telnetd as one of the sample apps?

Maybe: www.umich.edu/~archive/msdos/communications/wattcp/
(could somebody mirror this before it turns into dust? ;-))

More watt32 DOS network apps / servers: www.bgnett.no/~giva/

Many mixed links: www.freedos.org/freedos/news/technote/157.html
www.freedos.org/freedos/links/ - for example has this guide:

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS

I hope you can get a telnet server working with all those :-)
Please let me know when you have news about the project.

Eric


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