[Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Alex
Hi all, Can someone please tell me what are the best GUIs available for FreeDOS? Naturally, this is a double question, since GUIs fall into two categories: 1) Text-mode GUIs 2) Graphical GUIs So, which GUI(s) would you recommend for each category? Alex

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Can someone please tell me what are the best GUIs available for FreeDOS? Naturally, this is a double question, since GUIs fall into two categories: 1) Text-mode GUIs 2) Graphical GUIs So, which GUI(s) would you recommend for each category? Maybe unrelated but: File Maven is a

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Marco Achury
El 06/04/2012 01:25 p.m., Eric Auer escribió: Hi! Can someone please tell me what are the best GUIs available for FreeDOS? Naturally, this is a double question, since GUIs fall into two categories: 1) Text-mode GUIs 2) Graphical GUIs So, which GUI(s) would you recommend for each

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Eric Auer
Hi :-) A nice thread to ponder some free alternatives for all those fine classic DOS programs from back then :-) Rugxulo: What was DOS most famous for? In office software: Lotus 1-2-3 *and clones), DBase 3 and 3.5, Paradox, QuattroPro, Javelin, MS Project As

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Alex
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 06/04/2012 01:25 p.m., Eric Auer escribió: Hi! Can someone please tell me what are the best GUIs available for FreeDOS? Naturally, this is a double question, since GUIs fall into two categories: 1) Text-mode

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 12:06 PM 4/6/2012, Eric Auer wrote: Harbour / xHarbour are free DBase Clipper (database scripting language compiler?) clones, a bit bulky afair but portable :-) See also their harbour-project.org web site :-) First of all Harbour and xHarbour are pretty much two completely different

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Marco Achury
El 06/04/2012 02:36 p.m., Eric Auer escribió: Hi :-) A nice thread to ponder some free alternatives for all those fine classic DOS programs from back then :-) Rugxulo: What was DOS most famous for? In office software: Lotus 1-2-3 *and clones), DBase 3 and 3.5,

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 12:48 PM 4/6/2012, Alex wrote: Any idea why OpenGEM is the only GUI environment listed on the FreeDOS website under the category GUIs? To be fair, I must say that if you look hard withing the website you do find the reference to other GUIs, such as the Icon GUI. So why OpenGEM is the only

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Alex
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: And what exactly do you mean by GUI as development tool. That's a term that doesn't make any sense to me at least... What I meant was simply a tool for developing GUI-based applications.

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Actually, what I had in mind when I asked about GUIs was just GUIs themselves, not application using them. But it was nice to see... The starting point of my exploration on DOS-based GUIs was: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.GallDosGui My

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Alex
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 12:06 PM 4/6/2012, Eric Auer wrote: DJGPP is a free open DOS port of GNU C/C++ and OpenWatcom C is also pretty open. None of the Turbo things are open, although some were free in the Borland Software Museum for a while. Now

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 01:27 PM 4/6/2012, Alex wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: And what exactly do you mean by GUI as development tool. That's a term that doesn't make any sense to me at least... What I meant was simply a tool for developing GUI-based applications.

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 02:59 PM 4/6/2012, Rugxulo wrote: Also see Gautier's Transparent Language Popularity Index (updated each month): http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/ Sorry, but as far as programming for (Free)DOS is concerned, that list is completely irrelevant... Ralf

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: And what exactly do you mean by GUI as development tool. That's a term that doesn't make any sense to me at least... What I meant was simply a tool for

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/6, Alex alxm...@gmail.com: Just to be clear, which is the best Pascal version available to date for FreeDOS? Perhaps TP 3.0 - maximal effect taken out of minimum of code? #v+ Turbo Pascal 3 for MS-DOS was released in September 1986. Being version 3, there were lesser releases prior to

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/6, Alex alxm...@gmail.com: What, in your view, are the best production-ready languages currently available to FreeDOS users? Don't forget various Forth variants. By production-ready I also mean that they must have a minimal set of libraries... Depends, what actually you mean by

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 04:45 PM 4/6/2012, Alex wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: 16-bit is dead, no machines are made purely 16-bit anymore. AMD64 long mode doesn't (properly) support 16-bit at all, and popular compilers like GCC never cared to support it. Also, people

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 05:05 PM 4/6/2012, Zbigniew wrote: 2012/4/6, Alex alxm...@gmail.com: Just to be clear, which is the best Pascal version available to date for FreeDOS? Perhaps TP 3.0 - maximal effect taken out of minimum of code? #v+ Turbo Pascal 3 for MS-DOS was released in September 1986. Being version

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-06 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 08:32 PM 4/6/2012, Rugxulo wrote: For more than half of those languages, there doesn't exist a (at least serious) DOS implementation. You rather have to use what is available, and that is fairly limited... There is easily an implementation for more than half of those, but often it's