Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to get Freedos working on my LAN

2020-11-02 Thread Ralf Quint

On 11/2/2020 6:54 PM, Marv wrote:
Freedos noob here. I've been running old Dos programs like Wordstar, 
Supercalc, etc. ok on Freedos for a couple of weeks. Now I'm trying to 
get it on my LAN so I can move files around easier.


I'm using an ASRock N3150B-ITX (circa 2015) with an onboard ethernet 
adapter. Specs say: PCIE x1 Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s, Realtek 
RTL8111GR.


NICSCAN says vendor is 10EC (Realteck) and device is 8168 
(RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller).


I finally found the right ndis driver for the adapter. I can now get 
thru the boot process without any errors, and Netbind shows the 
adapter's hardware address.


My problem or question is the hardware address Netbind shows on boot 
doesn't show up in a listing of IP addresses on my router nor does ARP 
list it.


Does the IP address only get assigned to the hardware address when a 
program uses WATTCP.CFG?


I think I have my WATTCP.CFG is setup correctly, but I'm not entirely 
sure. I want to use a static IP address. But since the device/hardware 
address doesn't show up on the router, I can't turn it into a static 
IP there. I've been assuming setting my_ip to an unused IP in 
WATTSCP.CFG will create the static IP, but apparently not?


I know this is not a Freedos question or issue, but how and when does 
an IP address get assigned to a device in this kind of network?
Well, you do not say what kind of network stack you are actually using. 
You need more than just the driver for the NIC, but also software that 
provides the whole (TCP/)IP stack. With that in place, you should have 
the option to select either to use a static IP (with all associated info 
like netmask and gateway) or get this info assigned via DHCP (which uses 
the MAC address as the physical identifier).


Also not sure where you are looking for the device/hardware address on 
your router, a static address isn't likely to show up at all (ok, some 
routers have some "network view", which shows active device by IP 
address). Most importantly, you need to make sure that the static IP 
info that you are entering matches in IP address, netmask and gateway 
the LAN side interface of your router. If that is correct what you 
entered, well, that is hard to tell without you providing some real info 
about that...


Ralf










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[Freedos-user] Trying to get Freedos working on my LAN

2020-11-02 Thread Marv
Freedos noob here. I've been running old Dos programs like Wordstar,
Supercalc, etc. ok on Freedos for a couple of weeks. Now I'm trying to get
it on my LAN so I can move files around easier.

I'm using an ASRock N3150B-ITX (circa 2015) with an onboard ethernet
adapter. Specs say: PCIE x1 Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s, Realtek RTL8111GR.

NICSCAN says vendor is 10EC (Realteck) and device is 8168 (RTL8111/8168B
PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller).

I finally found the right ndis driver for the adapter. I can now get thru
the boot process without any errors, and Netbind shows the adapter's
hardware address.

My problem or question is the hardware address Netbind shows on boot
doesn't show up in a listing of IP addresses on my router nor does ARP list
it.

Does the IP address only get assigned to the hardware address when a
program uses WATTCP.CFG?

I think I have my WATTCP.CFG is setup correctly, but I'm not entirely sure.
I want to use a static IP address. But since the device/hardware address
doesn't show up on the router, I can't turn it into a static IP there. I've
been assuming setting my_ip to an unused IP in WATTSCP.CFG will create the
static IP, but apparently not?

I know this is not a Freedos question or issue, but how and when does an IP
address get assigned to a device in this kind of network?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?

2020-11-02 Thread Dan Scott
I’m not nearly as knowledgeable as the others who have responds but from what 
I’ve heard and experienced, Windows 3.11 for Workgroups works quite well with 
MS-DOS 6.22. 

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> On Nov 1, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> Interesting question.
> Is there a reason why, if you intend running windows 3.11, that you do not 
> want to use the MS dos closely associated with that windows at the time? 5.0 
> 6.0, or 6.22?
> My guess about ms dos 7.1 is that it  draws from a much later infrastructure.
> I run that edition of DOS, but I do not use windows in any form.
> Just starting the conversation,
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, TheBigBlue Guard wrote:
>> 
>> Hello FreeDOSers,
>> 
>> How was your Halloween ? Mine was okay... No tricks yet !
>> 
>> My Q and Problem :
>> 
>> I understand you need a DOS oper sys underlying Win For Workgroups 3.1.1 OS
>> in a mult-boot native environment (no boxes / no emulators).Which DOS
>> OS do you strongly recommend ? and why ?  I have MS-DOS 7.1 install CD and
>> was told NOT to rely on it for Win FW 3.1.1. - is this accurate and correct
>> ?  Can you use FreeDOS as the underlying  OS ?
>> 
>> Big Blue
>> 
> 
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