Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos & Arachne

[Louis Santillan]

You might try Links2 Browser in graphics mode. 2.25 is the latest version.

http://links.twibright.com/download/binaries/dos/links-2.25.exe

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:02 AM  wrote:

>
>
> Hi!
> I have used Archne for a long time many years ago.
> Currently, both in freedos 1.2 and 1.3, ( no dosbox ) even with the latest
> release of Arachne it is in fact impossible for me to use it.
>  I know of arachne's well known issues with https and jv, but it also
> seems to not recognize the normal wattcp.cfg I use with links, lynx or
> gopherus. In fact I have to manually set my ip address, nameserver, gateway
> and even then it is very slow and often crashes. Even in off-line mode, for
> example as a .jpg viewer, it is very slow and tends to freeze.
>  Are there any underlying incompatibilities with freedos? is the 16 bit
> problem? a recognition problem from my ADSL fast fiber line?
> Yet, I repeat, with my ethernet drivers both links and gopherus are fine
> and fast.
> thanks Andrea
>
>
>
> Voucher MISE per P.IVA e PMI: fino a 2500€ per la Banda Ultralarga.
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Re: [Freedos-user] retro gamer review of FreeDOS 1.3

[Jim Hall]

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 11:44 AM Joao Silva  wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> Dosbox will solve all your problems!
>


FYI

>From the list rules:

   Remember, this group is about FreeDOS. General DOS topics are okay,
   but try to keep it related to FreeDOS.


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Re: [Freedos-user] retro gamer review of FreeDOS 1.3 - DOSBOX-X 0.83.23 released

[Eric Auer]

In related news:

https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18754
DOSBox-X 0.83.23 released!
posted by Wengier(R) 05.03.2022 03:01

DOSBox-X 0.83.23 has now been released! Designing to be a cross-platform 
DOS emulator, it is the goal of DOSBox-X to cover different types of DOS 
software, and also intends to implement accurate emulation, accurate 
enough to help make new DOS developments possible with confidence the 
program will run properly on actual DOS systems.


DOSBox-X provides official DOS versions in addition to other platforms. 
You can now download the latest packages for both HX-DOS and LOADLIN 
builds for DOSBox-X 0.83.23 from the DOSBox-X project homepage:


https://dosbox-x.com/

As usual there are many improvements in this latest version, and you can 
find the release notes for this version (containing the change history) 
here:


* https://dosbox-x.com/release-0.83.23.html

The DOS packages are self-contained so that you can simply unzip the 
file and type DOSBOX-X to run in DOS. It is confirmed to work in DOS, 
and read the included README.TXT file for more information.






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Re: [Freedos-user] retro gamer review of FreeDOS 1.3

[Carlos Teixeira]

Dude... I do have the right hardware from an original IBM XT to a couple
Turbo XT clones, to a Tandy 1000 SL that i had to mod for 220V, to a 286,
386, 486 and Pentium MMX.

I also can use from CP/M-86 to all MS-DOS oficial releases to Windows 98
stripped FAT32 MS-DOS. PC-DOS, DR-DOS, whatever. No point in discussing
DOSBox. The point here is:

FreeDOS and its ability to run DOS games. In the case of DSI games, there's
something specific to the game engine that prevents those games from
running, GP Circuit, The Cycles and Test Drive 2. I've had no chance yet
but a good thing try might be running a debugger and checking if the code
might be stuck in an infinite loop.

Planet X3, for instance, despite being programmed for XT class machines
that usually use MS-DOS 3.3, had a bug in which the game was stuck in an
infinite loop while printing a string just before exiting to DOS. So i took
a look into the code and what happened is that INT 29 might trash BX
completely which was actually used to point to memory and fetch the
characters for the string. BX gets completely trashed so the string never
finished and just printed crap on the screen. An isolated problem on a
specific version of DOS.

This might be what is happening with the DSI games, or might be something
entirely different, but the fact that every game that uses the same engine
fails to run on FDOS makes it quite obvious that fixing just one of these
games will probably fix the rest. This is what we should focus on.

A segunda, 7/03/2022, 13:04, Joao Silva  escreveu:

> Hello!
>
> Not perfectly... for that you need the right hardware for the game to run,
> ms-dos 6.22 or pc-dos 7.0/7.1 and i'm assuming that you don't have either
> conditions.
>
> So dosbox will run most games, you can check the compatibility list
> https://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?letter=a  and fine tune the cpu
> speed on dosbox.
>
> You  can also check dosbox-x with more features.
>
> You can also check this page for game clones and/or remakes
> https://osgameclones.com/, some require compiling the source code.
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[Freedos-user] Freedos & Arachne

[andrea936]

  

Hi!
I have used Archne for a long time many years ago.
Currently,
both in freedos 1.2 and 1.3, ( no dosbox ) even with the latest release
of Arachne it is in fact impossible for me to use it.
 I know of
arachne's well known issues with https and jv, but it also seems to not
recognize the normal wattcp.cfg I use with links, lynx or gopherus. In
fact I have to manually set my ip address, nameserver, gateway and even
then it is very slow and often crashes. Even in off-line mode, for
example as a .jpg viewer, it is very slow and tends to freeze.
 Are
there any underlying incompatibilities with freedos? is the 16 bit
problem? a recognition problem from my ADSL fast fiber line?
Yet, I
repeat, with my ethernet drivers both links and gopherus are fine and
fast.
thanks Andrea  


Voucher MISE per P.IVA e PMI: fino a 2500€ per la Banda Ultralarga. 
https://www.tiscali.it/business/prodotti/voucher/?r=TS0A00025=link=tiscali_source=tiscali_medium=link_campaign=voucherbusiness_content=voucherbusiness_np=tiscali.link.footermail.voucher.business.btb.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Will freedos running in a Virtual box VM recognise a host attached USB security dongle?

[Sean Warner]

-Original Message-
From: Liam Proven [mailto:lpro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 March 2022 11:23
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Will freedos running in a Virtual box VM
recognise a host attached USB security dongle?

On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 20:09, Louis Santillan  wrote:
>
> I wrote a quick guide on how to pass through USB devices to a VirtualBox
VM.
>
>
https://sites.google.com/view/lpsantil/home/adding-usb-device-to-a-virtualbo
x-vm
[...]
> 5. Pick an appropriate USB spec controller.  Very old devices will likely
use "USB 1.1 (OHCI) Controller" (super old web cams, scanners, keyboards,
mice, etc.).  Devices and OSes made in the last 15 years will likely be
better suited for "USB 2.0 (OHCI + EHCI) Controller".

You are missing a *very* important point in your guide.

VirtualBox is FOSS and can be run without restrictions anywhere. The
VirtualBox Extension Pack is *not* FOSS and must be licensed. If used
in a commercial or business setting, you have to pay for it. It's not
that cheap and for multiple users it can be significant.

USB 2 and higher need the extension pack. Only USB 1 can be used for free.

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Hello all,

Regarding this thread, thank you to all who contributed really helpful
advice.. my goal was to run a 16-bit DOS application from a host running Win
10 64-bit. I was exploring the possibilities and thinking that FreeDOS would
help. In my case I also need the application to run from a network share,
print to LPT ports and to have its full functionality enabled using a HASP
HL license USB dongle. After much reading around, advice from this forum and
experimenting I found that FreeDOS isn't an option due to the printing and
USB requirement. Likewise DOSBOX and vDOS are ruled out.

I experimented with running the application in Windows XP in a Virtualbox VM
and it works fine that way even the USB dongle is passed-through from the
Win 10 64-bit host to the Win XP guest. I don't love XP as a choice due to
security concerns about it and the insecure way it has to connect to the
network share. I installed Win 10 32-bit in a VM and interestingly that also
worked using the older dongle drivers that we've been using for years to get
the USB dongle working with Win XP and Win 7 32-bit.

Interestingly I found an option called NTVDMx64 which enables 16-bit
applications to run in 64-bit operating systems:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/ntvdmx64.html
https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64

That was a cool discovery and I was able to get my 1990s era DOS application
to run in Win 10 64-bit bare-metal! Unfortunately try as I may I have not
been able to get the HASP USB dongle to work in Win 10 64-bit so full
functionality of the application is not enabled. I have tried the most
recent driver from the dongle makers website (thalesgroup.com) but it won't
work. I also asked them for support and they directed me back to the vendor
of the DOS application... I already know that vendor won't want to know
about it as they have ended support for the DOS application and upgraded the
application to a Microsoft dot net version with an extortionate upgrade and
installation price tag.

So my last option is to pay the extortionate upgrade fee or run the DOS app
on Win 10 32-bit either bare metal or in a VM. That isn't ideal due to the
limitations of a 32-bit OS and the fact that Microsoft are slowly ending
support for it. Anyway, the whole process was really interesting so thank
you again to all who helped!

Cheers,

Sean



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Re: [Freedos-user] retro gamer review of FreeDOS 1.3

[Joao Silva]

Hello!

Not perfectly... for that you need the right hardware for the game to run,
ms-dos 6.22 or pc-dos 7.0/7.1 and i'm assuming that you don't have either
conditions.

So dosbox will run most games, you can check the compatibility list
https://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?letter=a  and fine tune the cpu speed
on dosbox.

You  can also check dosbox-x with more features.

You can also check this page for game clones and/or remakes
https://osgameclones.com/, some require compiling the source code.
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