Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user

Thanks Eric,
you are a prince.
Karen



On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote:



Hi! According to

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html

you can download

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip

for 7zip. Regards, Eric




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Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user

Hi Ralf,
Thanks for the correct extension.  Will download the file again saving it 
properly.
I do not personally run freedos yet for many reasons, so my thanks to 
others for doors to the software as well.

Kare



On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote:


On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote:

 I do not have a freedos install cd.
 I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am
 seeking it somewhere.
 are such files  given names like
 file.7zip?
 the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why
 I am likewise asking.
 Karen 


The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z


Ralf




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[Freedos-user] Testing quite a few DOS games with modern graphics hardware

2023-10-31 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user



Hi!

Before rebooting my Linux to activate the newest kernel updates, I
have booted into DOS to find out how DOS games deal with my new
GeForce GTX 1650 graphics card. It is surprisingly bad as a VGA.

According to VESAINFO, only packed pixel and direct color modes
are supported, with 256 or 65536 colors or 32 bits per pixel.

VESA packed pixel modes: 640x480, 800x600 (1024 bytes per line),
1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200 (1664 bytes per line!). Modes with
2 or 4 bytes per pixel also all have "round" numbers of bytes per
line (1280, 2048, 2560, 3328, 4096, 4120, 6144, 6656 or 7680, all
multiples of 128 as you can see). Resolutions up to 1920x1080 :-)

As the USB mouse is not supported in my current BIOS settings and
I was too lazy to change them, CTMOUSE only attempted to use a
non-existing Mouse Systems RS232 mouse. So games requiring mouse
input were not actually working, but that is a different story.

My board still has a serial port, so I could try an old mouse ;-)

Unsurprisingly, quite a few games throw error 200 or run too fast,
including the popular Jazz Jackrabbit and the Kamango memory game.

IGO works in VGA mode, also in monochrome VGA. Somehow it does
not show MCGA properly, maybe tweaking it? For Hercules, CGA,
EGA and Tandy, it reports that it could not activate the mode.

GOPART (GoPartner by Ingolf Hellmann) sort of works, but one
can see that the graphics font is incomplete. It is supposed to
work with CGA, Hercules, EGA and VGA. I guess it tries VGA.

WARI (Kalaha by ImagiSOFT) fails to enter graphics mode:
You would have to play blindly while still seeing DOS text.

Ballgame and Mahjongg (by Nels Anderson) also fail to enter
graphics mode. I guess this happens with all EGA or CGA apps.

Bananoid, which I think uses a tweaked MCGA mode, would work
if I had a mouse. A cute little Arkanoid clone.

Breakfree, a 3d Arkanoid clone, works, including speaker sound.

20th Century Frog shows no graphics, apparently it uses EGA.
I would have thought that it uses VGA.

Laserbeam by Proline just shows a blank screen, no idea.

Shooting Gallery would work if I had a mouse. MCGA + Speaker.

Descent would work, but runs too fast. Probably MCGA, too.

The IUS intro, which uses an interesting graphics mode, shows
something graphical, but not similar to the intended graphics.

Crystal Caves and Commander Keen 1 effectively stay in text
mode, apparently failing to switch to EGA (VGA?) mode. In
Captain Comic, switching to EGA fails with a message instead.

Commander Keen 4 claims not enough RAM is free if no EMM386 is
loaded, or crashes if JEMM386 X=TEST ALTBOOT MEMCHECK is loaded.

EGAroids (Asteroids) and Alley Cat (an ancient CGA game) fail
to enter graphics mode, so once again, you see garbled text.

Lemmings does not work, but I may have failed to try all the
conceivably supported graphics modes for that one. I once
bought a decent Windows port of it on CD, by the way :-)
I have not tested Lemmings 3d (needs EMS etc.).

Zeliard does work! I would have thought that it uses EGA just
like all the other games which do NOT work. Interestingly, the
Display Port output is native resolution of my screen at 60 Hz,
so the graphics card automatically upscales the resolutions.

Raptor does work (not sure whether it would support PC speaker
for sound, I just got none) so space shooter bases are covered.

Tank Wars (a small MCGA artillery game) basically works, but
some areas of the screen are garbled. Maybe a font problem?
You may know the genre from Worms and from QBasic Gorillas.

Antix (Anti-Xonix) is almost playable in spite of not reaching
a graphics mode. Maybe it was meant to be text mode anyway,
but the font is off and the game runs too fast.

Xonix basically works, just custom chars end up wrong, maybe
the VGA BIOS simply provides an incomplete font charset here.

Konggame (meant to use CGA 160x100 text graphics) and Pacman
just end up in some sort of garbled text mode, not playable.

Sint Nicolaas (MCGA Jump and Run) works, with PC speaker.

Digger (DigDug clone) also works. Maybe MCGA instead of CGA/EGA?

Squarez also works, as does the WOW tracker (MOD player) when
you switch it to PC speaker output. Probably MCGA as well :-)

Jill of the Jungle does work, MCGA with PC speaker sound.

The tiny Super Mario clone "Mario" by Mike Wiering works,
althought there is some tearing in the animations. Claims
to be 256 color VGA, but probably just uses MCGA graphics?

It is interesting that many CGA and EGA games fail to enter
graphics mode and fail to detect that they failed. I guess
the hardware just supports a subset of VGA and games think
VGA support implies support for everything older than VGA.
Some games do detect the failure, though!

I wonder whether some games would be troubled by the less
flexible bytes-per-line with this hardware, but I assume
EGA still would not work if you were to use N * 256 bytes
per line for it. I expect VESA games to be smart enough
to respect the bytes per line of the BIOS 

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user



Hi! According to

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html

you can download

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip

for 7zip. Regards, Eric




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Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user

That and there's also, well, guessing which ~# file is the correct one.

Also if you don't have the install CD, you can try your luck with 
connecting your FreeDOS instance to the Internet. fdimples has no 
problem downloading stuff that's online if you don't have a CD at hand. 
But, luck is the keyword here.


Michał

W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:30, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user pisze:

On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote:

I do not have a freedos install cd.
I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why 
I am seeking it somewhere.

are such files  given names like
file.7zip?
the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is 
why I am likewise asking.
Karen 


The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z


Ralf




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Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-user

On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote:

I do not have a freedos install cd.
I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why 
I am seeking it somewhere.

are such files  given names like
file.7zip?
the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is 
why I am likewise asking.
Karen 


The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z


Ralf




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Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user

I do not have a freedos install cd.
I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am 
seeking it somewhere.

are such files  given names like
file.7zip?
the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I 
am likewise asking.

Karen



On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Micha�~B Dec wrote:


Regular zip files can be decompressed with unzip. For compression, use zip.

7z files can be decompressed with 7zip.

They're all on the full FreeDOS install CD.

Best regards,

Michał Dec

W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:20, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze:

 Hi All,
 and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files?
 have such an archive,  needed to get a machine built, and one program I
 am restoring  is available as a 7zip file.
 Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package?
 And should such files be named differently than just .zip?
 Thanks so much.
 With appreciation,
 Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user

Regular zip files can be decompressed with unzip. For compression, use zip.

7z files can be decompressed with 7zip.

They're all on the full FreeDOS install CD.

Best regards,

Michał Dec

W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:20, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze:

Hi All,
and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files?
have such an archive,  needed to get a machine built, and one program 
I am restoring  is available as a 7zip file.

Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package?
And should such files be named differently than just .zip?
Thanks so much.
With appreciation,
Karen




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[Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user

Hi All,
and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files?
have such an archive,  needed to get a machine built, and one program I am 
restoring  is available as a 7zip file.

Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package?
And should such files be named differently than just .zip?
Thanks so much.
With appreciation,
Karen




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