Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-23 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user

Hi,
When the individual setting up my test actually checked the send button, 
he documented that it is not coded correctly likely why it appears three 
different ways in different browsers.
I am not using the editor provided by roundcube to compose, instead my 
editor is set as a part of each browser in their own configuration files, 
pico in all three cases.
Therefore when i reached the edit box say to compose  a message, I simply 
used the command to start my own editor.
Speaking personally, what roundcube does does not mean other webmail 
programs will create the send button the same.  JavaScript is a Language, 
and as I shared normally even Lynx can submit such buttons using a 
keystroke that is part of the more current editions, 2021 or later.
So, it can certainly be fixed, if a human can be reached.  Forum uses 
image captcha to register though.




On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote:



Hi!

Thanks for your roundcube webmail tests! Both interesting
and annoying that most features work with most text based
browsers - except sending mail, due to JS in the send button!


 Anyone at all know if roundcube has a support team?
 This tool could be amazing with some slight JavaScript fixes.


https://roundcube.net/support/

lists a community forum, bug tracker, several mailing
lists (probably not what you need) and an IRC chat.

The bug tracker, forum and chat should help you.

A quick search in the forum suggests that roundcube used
an editor called tinymce to compose mails, I wonder if
it would be possible to switch off the editor to be able
to write mails with less javascript usage?

It may help to switch to text-only instead of HTML mail
composition, if there is an option which lets you choose.

There is an interactive drop down menu to edit either in
HTML or plain text, but I guess that uses a script, too?

User preferences or configuration should have an option
compose HTML messages, choices always / never or similar.

Related keywords may include HTML editor or rich text.

https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5937
"Send a reply and archive in one action button" is vaguely
related because whoever addresses that feature request
will also know how send buttons are to be processed.

Trying to find an answer on roundcubeforum.net I got
the impression that people did not get answers at all
when their questions were not specific/detailed enough.

Sometimes people report that send mail button does not
do anything and got the reply that the roundcube server
was misconfigured. I guess this can be excluded in your
case and you have tested that sending DOES work okay if
a fully javascript enabled web browser is used?

Some skins (graphical look and feel choices) appear to
have send buttons arranged in different ways. Sometimes
there is more than one send button visible at the same
time, with the extra buttons using javascript to "press"
the main button, if I read correctly between the lines.

There also seems to be the issue that TAB switches to
the next form field or button (for example send) which
annoys people who want to type TAB as part of a mail.
If roundcube manipulates this, it may affect usability.

https://www.roundcubeforum.net/index.php/topic,29737.msg75552.html
has somebody find out that their browser plugins interfere
with whether the send button works. Not helpful for your
problem, but suggests that this button indeed contains
more complexity than necessary in some way.

I am probably not very good in navigating advanced search
in forum or bug list. Maybe asking on IRC works better?

Regards, Eric




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Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-23 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user



Hi!

Thanks for your roundcube webmail tests! Both interesting
and annoying that most features work with most text based
browsers - except sending mail, due to JS in the send button!


Anyone at all know if roundcube has a support team?
This tool could be amazing with some slight JavaScript fixes.


https://roundcube.net/support/

lists a community forum, bug tracker, several mailing
lists (probably not what you need) and an IRC chat.

The bug tracker, forum and chat should help you.

A quick search in the forum suggests that roundcube used
an editor called tinymce to compose mails, I wonder if
it would be possible to switch off the editor to be able
to write mails with less javascript usage?

It may help to switch to text-only instead of HTML mail
composition, if there is an option which lets you choose.

There is an interactive drop down menu to edit either in
HTML or plain text, but I guess that uses a script, too?

User preferences or configuration should have an option
compose HTML messages, choices always / never or similar.

Related keywords may include HTML editor or rich text.

https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5937
"Send a reply and archive in one action button" is vaguely
related because whoever addresses that feature request
will also know how send buttons are to be processed.

Trying to find an answer on roundcubeforum.net I got
the impression that people did not get answers at all
when their questions were not specific/detailed enough.

Sometimes people report that send mail button does not
do anything and got the reply that the roundcube server
was misconfigured. I guess this can be excluded in your
case and you have tested that sending DOES work okay if
a fully javascript enabled web browser is used?

Some skins (graphical look and feel choices) appear to
have send buttons arranged in different ways. Sometimes
there is more than one send button visible at the same
time, with the extra buttons using javascript to "press"
the main button, if I read correctly between the lines.

There also seems to be the issue that TAB switches to
the next form field or button (for example send) which
annoys people who want to type TAB as part of a mail.
If roundcube manipulates this, it may affect usability.

https://www.roundcubeforum.net/index.php/topic,29737.msg75552.html
has somebody find out that their browser plugins interfere
with whether the send button works. Not helpful for your
problem, but suggests that this button indeed contains
more complexity than necessary in some way.

I am probably not very good in navigating advanced search
in forum or bug list. Maybe asking on IRC works better?

Regards, Eric




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[Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-23 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user

Hi folks,
reporting back as a member of the greater Toronto Linux users group likes 
playing..allot, with mailbox configuration, hosting his own.
As he uses roundcube, he created a way for me to text, creating an account 
and so forth.
because the link was simple I could test in lynx, in links, and in elinks, 
as compiled here at shellworld.

almost everything worked..perfectly.
The thing that does not, is frankly a sloppy crying shame.
I could log in, reach my inbox area, choose to check my inbox and get 
correct information, compose an email, including editing the email 
body..everything but actually send the email itself.
That is because the send button has been JavaScript coded to be disabled 
from the keyboard.
Lynx has a keystroke that allows you to submit these buttons anyway, if 
coded correctly.  led me to a 510 server error.
As I upped the JavaScript friendliness, links and elinks can be compiled 
for it, I discovered the problem.
the send button is actually java script coded to be harmless..I am 
serious.
There is a rule in  the web content access guidelines for this, stating 
that all JavaScript must work from the keyboard.
Basic reason?  those who cannot lift or point a mouse, including those 
embodying paraplegia.
even voice browsers draw upon a form of html, simulate that submit button 
using enter key infrastructure.

Anyone at all know if roundcube has a support team?
This tool could be amazing with some slight JavaScript fixes.
Thanks,
Karen





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