Re: [Freedos-user] C programming guides
Hi Thomas, many screens will resize the signal you send them to full screen, probably with black bars either on top and bottom or left and right to match aspect ratio. This will usually give you large pixels or a fuzzy, blurred experience, so it has downsides nevertheless. So it is not common to get a physically small image from low resolutions. Some laptops did that, but they typically had a hotkey to enable scaling, something done by hardware and/or BIOS? Anyway, I would suggest that you either use MODE to activate one of the more classic modes, or some VESA based utility to activate any of the modes offered by the VESA VGA BIOS. This, however, will give you more characters on screen, but not larger ones! If your screen does scaling, the characters will actually be smaller if you have more of them. So you could rephrase your question: Is there a DOS text editor which uses high resolution VESA modes and high resolution character fonts, for large and sharp character outlines? I think Blocek uses graphical fonts, but I am not sure which font sizes it includes. Editors with vector based fonts could scale dynamically based on screen resolution. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C programming guides
Hi Eric, this is intriguing: > On 28.02.2024, at 18:54, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > > SVGA just is something used by your apps, > provided by your hardware and BIOS. Do you by any chane know of software for Dos, esp. such as text-editors that would use SVGA? Note (not too much related): I connected a eInk Screen and tried the DOS window in Windows, it had the size of a stamp. - Is there any software that would enlarge the resolution of the original DOS 320 x 200 or 640 x 400 … in other words: could a video-card produce a crispier image of the DOS screen, like it looks in the console on Windows…? Thomas ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C programming guides
Hi Ed, Is there any major differences between FreeDOS and MSDOS under the hood? FreeDOS aims to be highly compatible with MS DOS, so even if you rely on some "reasonably inner workings" of DOS beyond the normal int 21 interface etc. everything should still work very much the same with FreeDOS. A well-known exception is Windows: If you use 386 enhanced mode or Windows for Workgroups and open multiple DOS windows in parallel, Windows will rely VERY much on deeper inner workings to be exactly as in MS DOS to make this work with DOS, which normally does not run several times in parallel. This only has rather experimental support in newer FreeDOS kernels. Probably no issue for you, though. I did notice differences in DosBOX as this has the SVGA drivers built in so you can use high definition modes up to 1024x768 in 256 colours iirc. That is not actually a property of DOS: It is a property of your DOS applications and whether your hardware (or simulation of it, if you run DOS in a DOSBOX window) is compatible with what your applications expect. It also depends on whether your VGA BIOS is compatible with what your application expects. That said, SVGA will work equally well with MS DOS and FreeDOS, because DOS itself does not participate in SVGA infrastructure. SVGA just is something used by your apps, provided by your hardware and BIOS. In exciting related news: There is a new project to create a simulation of a classic Sound Blaster soundcard, figure out what sound it would produce, and then send that sound data to a modern standard HDA or AC97 sound chip which is more likely to exist in your modern real hardware PC than an old ISA slot with an old soundcard. This can be very useful because your old games are likely to hardcode expectations about sound hardware which simply are not met by modern sound chips. So there are no easily swappable drivers and the simulation is a good workaround. Yet again, your old games communicate directly with the real or simulated sound hardware. There are no interfaces for this provided by DOS, so it makes no difference whether you use MS DOS or FreeDOS when it comes to sound in apps. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C programming guides
Jim, thanks for this guide. Is there any major differences between FreeDOS and MSDOS under the hood. I did notice differences in DosBOX as this has the SVGA drivers built in so you can use high definition modes upto 1024x768 in 256 colours iirc. -Ed EdzUp On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, 16:10 Linvel Risner via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Jim, I deeply appreciate you directing me to those guides, I've bookmarked > them for after work. > > Yes, I very much would order something off of Lulu. Let me know when you > have it back up, and I'll buy it. > > I've always found literature more helpful than videos, but I think both is > a happy place to be. > > Thank you for your help, and have a wonderful day. > > Linvel > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:24 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> Starting a new thread for this topic: >> >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 7:46 AM Linvel Risner via Freedos-user >> wrote: >> [..] >> > I'm trying to research written programming guides, although maybe I >> > should just watch the Jim Hall video sets. >> > >> >> >> I also wrote a series of articles to support the videos, which might >> interest you: >> >> https://www.freedos.org/books/cprogramming/ >> >> I've been planning to migrate the FreeDOS Wiki to new hosting for a >> long time, and Goal #2 after that is to move the "FreeDOS Books" >> content (including 'Writing FreeDOS Programs in C') into the wiki. So >> eventually, the programming series will be in the wiki. >> >> I also worked with folks to edit the C programming articles into a >> "version 2.0" for a printed book, which was available on Lulu.com for >> a while. Let me know if you are interested in that and I'll see if I >> can reactivate the item on Lulu. >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Forums
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 5:47 AM Linvel Risner via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I don't imagine we have a forum, just an email list, right? > There are some forums listed here: https://www.freedos.org/forums/ -- andrew fabbro and...@fabbro.org ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C programming guides
Jim, I deeply appreciate you directing me to those guides, I've bookmarked them for after work. Yes, I very much would order something off of Lulu. Let me know when you have it back up, and I'll buy it. I've always found literature more helpful than videos, but I think both is a happy place to be. Thank you for your help, and have a wonderful day. Linvel On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:24 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Starting a new thread for this topic: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 7:46 AM Linvel Risner via Freedos-user > wrote: > [..] > > I'm trying to research written programming guides, although maybe I > > should just watch the Jim Hall video sets. > > > > > I also wrote a series of articles to support the videos, which might > interest you: > > https://www.freedos.org/books/cprogramming/ > > I've been planning to migrate the FreeDOS Wiki to new hosting for a > long time, and Goal #2 after that is to move the "FreeDOS Books" > content (including 'Writing FreeDOS Programs in C') into the wiki. So > eventually, the programming series will be in the wiki. > > I also worked with folks to edit the C programming articles into a > "version 2.0" for a printed book, which was available on Lulu.com for > a while. Let me know if you are interested in that and I'll see if I > can reactivate the item on Lulu. > > > Jim > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] C programming guides
Starting a new thread for this topic: On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 7:46 AM Linvel Risner via Freedos-user wrote: [..] > I'm trying to research written programming guides, although maybe I > should just watch the Jim Hall video sets. > I also wrote a series of articles to support the videos, which might interest you: https://www.freedos.org/books/cprogramming/ I've been planning to migrate the FreeDOS Wiki to new hosting for a long time, and Goal #2 after that is to move the "FreeDOS Books" content (including 'Writing FreeDOS Programs in C') into the wiki. So eventually, the programming series will be in the wiki. I also worked with folks to edit the C programming articles into a "version 2.0" for a printed book, which was available on Lulu.com for a while. Let me know if you are interested in that and I'll see if I can reactivate the item on Lulu. Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
Understood. Someone posted asking how I did my job with DOS, I provided examples. On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Micha�~B Dec wrote: Hello Karen, Please keep the discussion on-topic. This is a FreeDOS user discussion mailing list, not a WEF summit. Best regards, Michał W dniu 27.02.2024 o 21:45, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: If our goals resonate, consider donating. worth a tax write off in some countries.. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
Hello Karen, Please keep the discussion on-topic. This is a FreeDOS user discussion mailing list, not a WEF summit. Best regards, Michał W dniu 27.02.2024 o 21:45, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: If our goals resonate, consider donating. worth a tax write off in some countries.. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2 (fwd)
Speaking very personally, The choice to define emotion to an email post is just that, the choice of the reader. I do not write people privately on list, without asking for their consent list first. When others write me privately without invitation, from a mailing list, it is still list intended as far as I am concerned. No one else need follow my choices, with my doing this due to some of my history of sex assault. On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Linvel Risner via Freedos-user wrote: It's a small enough community, I think if we reigned in the emotions and hurt feelings we could all prosper. I don't imagine we have a forum, just an email list, right? Are there other resources besides the wiki that I'm missing? I'm trying to research written programming guides, although maybe I should just watch the Jim Hall video sets. Thanks, and have a blessed day y'all. On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 8:26???AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 14:42, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I dare say you intended this for the list. You continue to be just amazingly rude and hostile. You mailed me privately offlist. I did you the courtesy of replying the same way. You put it back on the list. Previously I had killfiled you. I only saw your mail because I removed that filter. I will reinstate it as soon as I hit "send" on this message. I have tried to help you twice now. You have in both cases responded with vitriol and abuse. Never again. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2 (fwd)
No, I send emails only on list. I have no idea how things present for You, but I never write anyone off list without asking first. In fact, i was commenting in thread to your advice about USB key usage. On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 14:42, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I dare say you intended this for the list. You continue to be just amazingly rude and hostile. You mailed me privately offlist. I did you the courtesy of replying the same way. You put it back on the list. Previously I had killfiled you. I only saw your mail because I removed that filter. I will reinstate it as soon as I hit "send" on this message. I have tried to help you twice now. You have in both cases responded with vitriol and abuse. Never again. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2 (fwd)
It's a small enough community, I think if we reigned in the emotions and hurt feelings we could all prosper. I don't imagine we have a forum, just an email list, right? Are there other resources besides the wiki that I'm missing? I'm trying to research written programming guides, although maybe I should just watch the Jim Hall video sets. Thanks, and have a blessed day y'all. On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 8:26 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 14:42, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > I dare say you intended this for the list. > > You continue to be just amazingly rude and hostile. > > You mailed me privately offlist. I did you the courtesy of replying > the same way. > > You put it back on the list. > > Previously I had killfiled you. I only saw your mail because I removed > that filter. I will reinstate it as soon as I hit "send" on this > message. > > I have tried to help you twice now. You have in both cases responded > with vitriol and abuse. Never again. > > > -- > Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com > Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven > IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 > Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2 (fwd)
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 14:42, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: > > I dare say you intended this for the list. You continue to be just amazingly rude and hostile. You mailed me privately offlist. I did you the courtesy of replying the same way. You put it back on the list. Previously I had killfiled you. I only saw your mail because I removed that filter. I will reinstate it as soon as I hit "send" on this message. I have tried to help you twice now. You have in both cases responded with vitriol and abuse. Never again. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
