Re: [Freedos-user] piping .BATs (input and output)

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello!

I am not quite sure how you intend to manage the stdin input inside the
batch file, but I was wondering if you are looking for something like xargs
(from Unix) and if a port of xargs to DOS would help (extra complexity for
keeping global variables though).

Aitor


El lun, 20 nov 2023, 9:06, Rugxulo via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> escribió:

> "%COMSPEC% /c work.bat >file.txt" will succeed. Everyone knows that.
>
> What I'm wondering is if the following (piping into a .BAT) is
> considered acceptable or "standard" for DOS.
>
> "prog1.exe | %COMSPEC% /c work.bat | %COMSPEC% /c fixups.bat >some.txt"
>
> Does that work like I'd expect? (Seems to ... barely.) Is it rare? Is
> it buggy? Is there a better way?
>
> I've explored several other ways in DOS, including other shells (4DOS,
> DJGPP's Bash) or just a simple wrapper .C (system) or .PAS (exec)
> program.
>
> Does anyone have experience or advice with this? (Timo Salmi's BAT FAQ
> didn't quite cover it, from a quick glance.)
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] What DOS programs represent the 1980s and early 90s?

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Hello Jim,

I'm giving my own view that I've lived from this corner of the world.

As for operating systems/environments, it was mostly MS-DOS 3.X, 5.X and
6.22, and of course, Windows 3.1 (before the arrival of Windows95).
I heard of machines having DR-DOS or OS/2, but did never quite catch up.

As for applications, Lotus 1-2-3, WordPerfect and dBase III or IIIplus were
coping with most of the business market and training market.
I had heard (and seen) of Multiplian and Microsoft Works, but I never
really heard or watched a big stack of Microsoft's Word, Excel or Access
until the Windows versions after (and including Office95). Lotus AmiPro
(Windows only) was relatively known, but WordPerfect for Windows (nor, for
example, Lotus Approach) never caught up well.

As for programming Borland products specially, I would say.

And finally for graphics design, I would say Corel Draw!. I was never an
intensive user of publishing software, but around me, the Aldus programs
(like Photostyler and Pagemaker) were better known to me that Adobe's ones,
until Photoshop took over.

I know I have mentioned some that are Windows only. I would be very happy
to see, for example,  FreeDOS+Windows 3.1+Lotus Ami Pro working, but I have
never tried that myself. Back in this mailing lists, IIRC, I posted myself
a MS-Paint image over Windows 3.1 over FreeDOS, but AmiPro is quite a more
complex beast to run.

Aitor




On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 05:34, Jim Hall via Freedos-user <
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> I'm thinking about doing a video that shows how to do real work on DOS. I
> sometimes see comments on YouTube with people asking "could you really do
> *work* with DOS?" And the answer is *of course you can, that happened
> every day.*
>
> So I'm collecting a list of things you'd do in the 80s and 90s with DOS to
> do work. Sure, I'll put a game it two in there, but I'm focusing on getting
> work done.
>
> What programs or types of programs would you like to see?
>
> __
>
> **For myself:*
> *I've done some videos about DOS apps, but nothing like "here's how I did
> everyday work." When I think back to my 1980s and 1990s (especially the
> early 90s) I think of my time at university as a physics undergrad. So
> that's a spreadsheet and a word processor for sure. Probably make a simple
> chart then include that chart in a "lab report" document (or at least leave
> room in the document to print it when I print on a dot matrix printer).
> Probably a dialup terminal to talk to the uni committee lab? File manager.
> And a compiler to write my own tools.*
>
> *The only difference is for the video I'll try to highlight FreeDOS distro
> tools as much as possible, like Doszip for the file manager. *
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Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello Eric,

You are right.
In Spanish it happens the same, and I assume in many other keyboard
distributions out there.

So, closed case.
If someone wants R-ALt to act like L-Alt, maybe they can try the KEYB trick
and let us know.

Aitor




On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 at 21:07, Eric Auer via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

>
> Hi Aitor,
>
> I would assume that right alt DELIBERATELY does not act like
> a generic ALT key in EDIT: In German, for example, you need
> that right "Alt Gr" key for some accented characters, so it
> must not act as a function shift key. I remember not being
> able to use some other editor exactly because it treated any
> ALT like ALT, making me unable to type "@" because it wanted
> to treat it like "ALT-Q" or "ALT-@" with a special meaning
> for the ALT status instead of as an ordinary character.
>
> Maybe it would be useful to make this configurable in EDIT,
> but in a minimalist way, for example a checkbox whether R-ALT
> counts as ALT (for hotkeys) or is not to be interfered with.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sounds like it could be a bug in Edit, I'll see about it when I have a
> > little time.
> >
> > Now for the original question: is it possible to make R-Alt work like
> L-Alt?
> > It should be possible to do that with FD-KEYB.The idea is to intercept
> > Right-Alt and then emit Left-Alt, and get back to the BIOS driver. This
> > trick is unlikely lo work in a pre-AT-class machines, but in this older
> > machines, you can try and run FD-KEYB with the /9 and see if it works.
> >
> > The trick is like this: R-Alt is an E0-prefixed L-Alt, so you should
> define
> > a new plane for the E0:
> > [PLANES]
> > ...
> > ...
> > E0
> >
> > Then, make a new mappings sections that would just catch the R-Alt and
> emit
> > a L-Alt (the scancode for Alt is 38h = 56
> >
> > [KEYS:ralt]
> > 5656/#0
> >
> > Finally, add this new mapping to your Submappings section, at the end, so
> > that it works as a fallback for the other cases (change the codepage for
> > whatever you desire):
> >
> > [Submappings]
> > ...
> > ...
> > 437   ralt
> >
> > If someone wants to give it a try and works, let me know, should be
> > interesting stuff.
> > You can apply the same trick to make "extended" keys work as
> non-extended.
> >
> > Aitor
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello,

Sounds like it could be a bug in Edit, I'll see about it when I have a
little time.

Now for the original question: is it possible to make R-Alt work like L-Alt?
It should be possible to do that with FD-KEYB.The idea is to intercept
Right-Alt and then emit Left-Alt, and get back to the BIOS driver. This
trick is unlikely lo work in a pre-AT-class machines, but in this older
machines, you can try and run FD-KEYB with the /9 and see if it works.

The trick is like this: R-Alt is an E0-prefixed L-Alt, so you should define
a new plane for the E0:
[PLANES]
...
...
E0

Then, make a new mappings sections that would just catch the R-Alt and emit
a L-Alt (the scancode for Alt is 38h = 56

[KEYS:ralt]
5656/#0

Finally, add this new mapping to your Submappings section, at the end, so
that it works as a fallback for the other cases (change the codepage for
whatever you desire):

[Submappings]
...
...
437   ralt

If someone wants to give it a try and works, let me know, should be
interesting stuff.
You can apply the same trick to make "extended" keys work as non-extended.

Aitor


On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 at 20:08, John Hupp  wrote:

> The default FreeDOS 1.1 installation does not load KEYB for a US
> keyboard (nor do I have it loaded). CHCP reports Code Page 858, as
> expected.  And as I reported in my original post on this topic:
>
> - Even in Edit, R-Alt acts like L-Alt with no document open.
> - In SetEdit, R-Alt acts like L-Alt.
> - In FreeDOS Help, R-Alt acts like L-Alt.
> - In DOOM, R-Alt acts like L-Alt.
>
> This led me to think that underlying mechanisms were all in good order
> and not responsible for the (undesirable) behavior in EDIT. So I do
> indeed now think of it as an EDIT problem, and I have adopted SETEDIT as
> a workaround or better alternative on most hardware.
>
> @ Bret: Perhaps you have the skills to offer a fix for EDIT, or can
> convince the current developers to do so!
>
> On 3/8/2016 1:46 PM, Bret Johnson wrote:
> > It is known that the R-Alt (AltGr) works differently than L-Alt with
> some keyboard layouts, but when it is a US keyboard layout (and some other
> layouts as well) that is not the case.  This is a bug and it should be
> fixed.
> >
> > There are DOS functions that EDIT can call to tell what kind of keyboard
> layout is currently implemented and what the current Code Page is (the two
> things are correlated).  However, not all keyboard drivers implement those
> functions properly, so EDIT can end up thinking you're using a US keyboard
> layout when you really aren't.  I know MS-KEYB properly supports these
> functions, but am not sure about FD-KEYB or the other "MS-KEYB clones".
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] KEY language specification for custom keyboard layout?

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello there!

The documentation for the KEY language is included within the KC/KLIB
binary distribution:

DOC\KC\KEY.TXT

For some reason, I am no longer able to find the distribution of KC/KLIB
within Ibiblio or GitLab
(maybe Jerome can help?)

But fortunately, there is an online copy at:

http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/freedos/files/dos/keyb/2.0/

the file being KC200X.ZIP

If you want to modify an existing KEY file, you need the package above for
the compiler, and the sources for the KEY files, that they exist in ibiblio:

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/kpdos-3.1/


Thanks and sorry for the delay,
Aitor



On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 at 22:42, John Hupp  wrote:

> Thanks for the confirmation.  I already looked at the DOC folders for
> the KEYB and KC packages and found no help on this question there, so
> I'll hope that Aitor checks in with an answer.
>
> On 2/29/2016 4:31 PM, Henrique Peron wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > yes, the one and only route is to edit the US.KEY file, compile it and
> > run it through KEYB. Correct.
> >
> > You'll have to check the documentation and look for Aitor Santamaría.
> > He's the one to help you with the syntax of a KEY file.
> >
> > Henrique
> >
> >
> > Em 29/02/2016 13:12, John Hupp escreveu:
> >> I'm returning to my quest to customize my US keyboard.
> >>
> >> It looks like the best route for me will be to use the KEYB driver, and
> >> edit the US.KEY file from the KC package, then compile that into a .KL
> >> file to be used by KEYB.
> >>
> >> I understand that the .KEY files conform to the KEY language
> >> specification, but despite some scouring, I have found no documentation
> >> for the format of the .KEY files or the syntax of the KEY language.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have more information?
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] languages

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Ok, thanks for the testing.

Aitor


On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 23:36, Joao Silva via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I used KEYB PO,850,KEYBOARD.SYS and worked like a charm.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:43 PM Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user <
> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To do this, you need KEYB itself:
>>
>> ibiblio.org FreeDOS 1.2 Updates Package -- keyb (FreeDOS Base)
>> <https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/keyb.html>
>>
>> and KEYBOARD.SYS and the alikes:
>>
>> ibiblio.org FreeDOS 1.2 Updates Package -- KEYB layouts (FreeDOS Base)
>> <https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/keyb_lay.html>
>>
>> To find out which and the commandline, this page may help:
>>
>> KPDOS v3.0 - Keyboard Layout Pack for DOS codepages (bootablecd.de)
>> <https://www.bootablecd.de/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/other/kpdos.htm>
>>
>> if you want to use KEYB for PO and KEYBOARD.SYS
>>
>> KEYB PO,850,KEYBOARD.SYS
>>
>> should do it.
>>
>> Aitor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 23:19, Joao Silva via Freedos-user <
>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> I don't have FD-KEYB installed and i can't find fdimples.
>>> Where can i install it?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:34 PM Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user <
>>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Joao,
>>>>
>>>> I think in the thread the bug was mentioned to happen in mKEYB, could
>>>> you please try FD-KEYB to see if the bug is there and needs to be corrected
>>>> too?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aitor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 07:26, Joao Silva via Freedos-user <
>>>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> i' m from Portugal and i'm aware of the portuguese layout for 43 years.
>>>>> When i press that key produces a A with a ring on top.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 10:35 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user <
>>>>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joao wrote:
>>>>>> > > It's been a while since i use freedos on asus eeepc with
>>>>>> portuguese from
>>>>>> > > portugal and if i recall i can't write the * with shift and *+"
>>>>>> key and
>>>>>> > > since there is no numeric keypad.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>> > >  "i can't write the * with shift and *+" key"
>>>>>> > c) about the worst bug complaint ever. you don't deserve a better
>>>>>> keyboard driver ;(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not a bad bug complaint. According to Wikipedia (see link) the
>>>>>> asterisk (*) is on the plus (+) key in the Shifted position. It's next
>>>>>> to the "P" key. So "Shift and +" should produce "*" on a
>>>>>> Portuguese/Portugal keyboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_QWERTY_keyboard_language_variants#Portugal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Also, telling someone "you don't deserve a better keyboard driver" is
>>>>>> not cool. :-( We're all in this together to create a welcoming
>>>>>> environment. Let's treat everyone with respect.
>>>>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] languages

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hi,

To do this, you need KEYB itself:

ibiblio.org FreeDOS 1.2 Updates Package -- keyb (FreeDOS Base)
<https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/keyb.html>

and KEYBOARD.SYS and the alikes:

ibiblio.org FreeDOS 1.2 Updates Package -- KEYB layouts (FreeDOS Base)
<https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/keyb_lay.html>

To find out which and the commandline, this page may help:

KPDOS v3.0 - Keyboard Layout Pack for DOS codepages (bootablecd.de)
<https://www.bootablecd.de/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/other/kpdos.htm>

if you want to use KEYB for PO and KEYBOARD.SYS

KEYB PO,850,KEYBOARD.SYS

should do it.

Aitor




On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 23:19, Joao Silva via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hello.
> I don't have FD-KEYB installed and i can't find fdimples.
> Where can i install it?
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:34 PM Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user <
> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello Joao,
>>
>> I think in the thread the bug was mentioned to happen in mKEYB, could you
>> please try FD-KEYB to see if the bug is there and needs to be corrected too?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aitor
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 07:26, Joao Silva via Freedos-user <
>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> i' m from Portugal and i'm aware of the portuguese layout for 43 years.
>>> When i press that key produces a A with a ring on top.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 10:35 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user <
>>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joao wrote:
>>>> > > It's been a while since i use freedos on asus eeepc with portuguese
>>>> from
>>>> > > portugal and if i recall i can't write the * with shift and *+" key
>>>> and
>>>> > > since there is no numeric keypad.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>> [..]
>>>> > >  "i can't write the * with shift and *+" key"
>>>> > c) about the worst bug complaint ever. you don't deserve a better
>>>> keyboard driver ;(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not a bad bug complaint. According to Wikipedia (see link) the
>>>> asterisk (*) is on the plus (+) key in the Shifted position. It's next
>>>> to the "P" key. So "Shift and +" should produce "*" on a
>>>> Portuguese/Portugal keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_QWERTY_keyboard_language_variants#Portugal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Also, telling someone "you don't deserve a better keyboard driver" is
>>>> not cool. :-( We're all in this together to create a welcoming
>>>> environment. Let's treat everyone with respect.
>>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] languages

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello Joao,

I think in the thread the bug was mentioned to happen in mKEYB, could you
please try FD-KEYB to see if the bug is there and needs to be corrected too?

Thanks,
Aitor


On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 07:26, Joao Silva via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> i' m from Portugal and i'm aware of the portuguese layout for 43 years.
> When i press that key produces a A with a ring on top.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 10:35 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user <
> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Joao wrote:
>> > > It's been a while since i use freedos on asus eeepc with portuguese
>> from
>> > > portugal and if i recall i can't write the * with shift and *+" key
>> and
>> > > since there is no numeric keypad.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Tom wrote:
>> [..]
>> > >  "i can't write the * with shift and *+" key"
>> > c) about the worst bug complaint ever. you don't deserve a better
>> keyboard driver ;(
>>
>>
>> It's not a bad bug complaint. According to Wikipedia (see link) the
>> asterisk (*) is on the plus (+) key in the Shifted position. It's next
>> to the "P" key. So "Shift and +" should produce "*" on a
>> Portuguese/Portugal keyboard.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_QWERTY_keyboard_language_variants#Portugal
>>
>>
>> *Also, telling someone "you don't deserve a better keyboard driver" is
>> not cool. :-( We're all in this together to create a welcoming
>> environment. Let's treat everyone with respect.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] languages

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hi,

The question is not very clear to me, but the installation of FreeDOS gives
you choice for lots and lots of keyboard layouts (Keyboard) and codepages
(screen), as well as many National Language Support for kernel.
However, translation of messages can be a bit uneven, depending on the
language.

I suggest you check a FreeDOS installation and see by yourself what you can
find.

Aitor


On Mon, 25 Sept 2023 at 03:07, Rahim Fakir via Freedos-user <
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> Is it possible to put all languages to freedos
> Languages KEyboard's and so on???
> Rahim 00351 933 5959 74 is bugged sorry
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Re: [Freedos-user] languages

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello,

Check KEYB an dKeyboard layouts in FreeDOS HELP:

FreeDOS command: keyb (bootablecd.de)

KPDOS v3.0 - Keyboard Layout Pack for DOS codepages (bootablecd.de)


There you may find all layouts of KEYB and available codepages (to be used
with DISPLAY).

KEYB PO,,KEYBOARD.SYS

should work for you, or

KEYB PX,,KEYBRD4.SYS

for international Portuguese.

Aitor







On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 at 20:57, Rahim Fakir via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> How can freeedos, have portugueses keyboard?
> Is it possible to choose the keyboard layout?
> Rahim 00351 933 5959 74
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Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello,

I would use MODE CON. After all, you want to reconfigure the console, and
that is what MODE CON is for.

Aitor


On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 02:10, zerofive--- via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> This question may been asked a million times but I just can't figure it
> out, and googling it gives no results (except telling me that I need to use
> `mode` and some parameters but this just wouldn't give me what I am trying
> to achieve)
> But I found out that `NANSI.SYS` contains a paramter which (I think)
> allows me to set at least 640x480 resolution. I also included it
> (nansi.sys) in FDCONFIG.SYS with parameters `/t18` but it doesnt seem to
> work. Any idea on what could be the issue or I need to do it the other way?
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Re: [Freedos-user] picoTCP: a modern, open-source TCP/IP stack for DOS

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Thanks!

Now it works,
Aitor


On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 00:12, tom ehlert via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hallo Herr Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user,
>
>
> > What is LIDOS?
> > (Couldn't find any reference on the Internet)
>
> it might help to use the intended spelling "Lidux"
>
> Tom
>
>
> > Aitor
>
>
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 at 17:08, Alain Mouette  wrote:
>
> >> Due to zero interest in the VM with Linux+FreeDOS that I uploaded, it is
> >> unprobable that LIDOS will get much work done...
> >>
> >> Remember that for FreeDOS, picoTCP is all about applications, so nothing
> >> needs to be done and should work out of the box in that VM
> >>
> >> And anyway, I don't know how to run a DOS graphic program using Lidux
> >> hardware drivers. This is a real show stopper :(
> >> If anyone knows how to do that, things may get interesting...
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 20-11-2015 11:34, Geraldo Netto wrote:
> >> > Once again my overflow of gratitude:
> >> >
> >> > while (1) {
> >> >   Mateusz++;
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > Alain, maybe we could update LIDOS with Mateusz picoTCP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Geraldo Netto
> >> > Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco
> >> > http://exdev.sf.net/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 19 November 2015 at 17:00, Mateusz Viste  wrote:
> >> >> Hello group,
> >> >>
> >> >> I write this message to share a little news about what I was doing
> in my
> >> >> spare time these last two months: porting picoTCP to DOS.
> >> >>
> >> >> picoTCP is a modern, dual-stack, open-source TCP/IP stack. It has
> been
> >> >> created by the good people at Intelligent Systems (Altran),
> primarily as
> >> >> a stack designed for embedded computing (hence hardware with very
> >> >> limited horse power). It is backed by a well established corporation
> and
> >> >> it's actively maintained.
> >> >>
> >> >> I played with the stack for some times now, and ended up building an
> >> >> entire DOS compatibility layer around it. A few patches were
> required to
> >> >> the stack, a few days of development, many hours of debugging - but
> here
> >> >> it is - the first public release of picoTCP for DOS!
> >> >>
> >> >> http://picotcp4dos.sourceforge.net
> >> >>
> >> >> The project contains three major parts:
> >> >>
> >> >> - ipcfg: a little tool that allows to configure networking on your
> DOS
> >> >> machine (IP, DNS, etc). No, it's not a text file - I wanted to avoid
> the
> >> >> complexity of parsing a text file, and opted for a binary
> configuration
> >> >> file that is manipulated via ipcfg. It's much more flexible that a
> text
> >> >> config file, while being much easier/faster to load at runtime.
> >> >>
> >> >> - ping: no need to explain, I guess... my ping tool for DOS, based on
> >> >> picoTCP - crucial when it comes to testing your networking
> >> >>
> >> >> - an OpenWatcom library package (openwatcom, large memory model) -
> this
> >> >> is for the fellow developers that would like to use the DOS version
> of
> >> >> picoTCP inside their network-enabled, 16-bit DOS programs. I
> integrated
> >> >> a packet driver schim, a DOS-compatible timer, as well as the whole
> IP
> >> >> configuration logic, so it is now a simple (2 functions!) public API
> >> >> that allows to load picoTCP, use it, and unload it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> *** Short how-to ***
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Download picotcp4dos and unzip it on your drive
> >> >> 2. Set the location where the config file will be stored, for
> example:
> >> >> SET PICOTCP=C:\PICOTCP.DAT
> >> >> 3. Bind picoTCP to the interrupt vector of your packet driver,
> example:
> >> >> ipcfg int 60
> >> >> 4. Configure your IP settings using ipcfg, or use DHCP (ipcfg dhcp)
> >> >>
> >> >> enjoy!
> >> >>
> >> >> Mateusz
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] picoTCP: a modern, open-source TCP/IP stack for DOS

[Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user]

Hello!

What is LIDOS?
(Couldn't find any reference on the Internet)

Aitor


On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 at 17:08, Alain Mouette  wrote:

> Due to zero interest in the VM with Linux+FreeDOS that I uploaded, it is
> unprobable that LIDOS will get much work done...
>
> Remember that for FreeDOS, picoTCP is all about applications, so nothing
> needs to be done and should work out of the box in that VM
>
> And anyway, I don't know how to run a DOS graphic program using Lidux
> hardware drivers. This is a real show stopper :(
> If anyone knows how to do that, things may get interesting...
>
> Alain
>
>
>
> On 20-11-2015 11:34, Geraldo Netto wrote:
> > Once again my overflow of gratitude:
> >
> > while (1) {
> >   Mateusz++;
> > }
> >
> > Alain, maybe we could update LIDOS with Mateusz picoTCP
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Geraldo Netto
> > Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco
> > http://exdev.sf.net/
> >
> >
> > On 19 November 2015 at 17:00, Mateusz Viste  wrote:
> >> Hello group,
> >>
> >> I write this message to share a little news about what I was doing in my
> >> spare time these last two months: porting picoTCP to DOS.
> >>
> >> picoTCP is a modern, dual-stack, open-source TCP/IP stack. It has been
> >> created by the good people at Intelligent Systems (Altran), primarily as
> >> a stack designed for embedded computing (hence hardware with very
> >> limited horse power). It is backed by a well established corporation and
> >> it's actively maintained.
> >>
> >> I played with the stack for some times now, and ended up building an
> >> entire DOS compatibility layer around it. A few patches were required to
> >> the stack, a few days of development, many hours of debugging - but here
> >> it is - the first public release of picoTCP for DOS!
> >>
> >> http://picotcp4dos.sourceforge.net
> >>
> >> The project contains three major parts:
> >>
> >> - ipcfg: a little tool that allows to configure networking on your DOS
> >> machine (IP, DNS, etc). No, it's not a text file - I wanted to avoid the
> >> complexity of parsing a text file, and opted for a binary configuration
> >> file that is manipulated via ipcfg. It's much more flexible that a text
> >> config file, while being much easier/faster to load at runtime.
> >>
> >> - ping: no need to explain, I guess... my ping tool for DOS, based on
> >> picoTCP - crucial when it comes to testing your networking
> >>
> >> - an OpenWatcom library package (openwatcom, large memory model) - this
> >> is for the fellow developers that would like to use the DOS version of
> >> picoTCP inside their network-enabled, 16-bit DOS programs. I integrated
> >> a packet driver schim, a DOS-compatible timer, as well as the whole IP
> >> configuration logic, so it is now a simple (2 functions!) public API
> >> that allows to load picoTCP, use it, and unload it.
> >>
> >>
> >> *** Short how-to ***
> >>
> >> 1. Download picotcp4dos and unzip it on your drive
> >> 2. Set the location where the config file will be stored, for example:
> >> SET PICOTCP=C:\PICOTCP.DAT
> >> 3. Bind picoTCP to the interrupt vector of your packet driver, example:
> >> ipcfg int 60
> >> 4. Configure your IP settings using ipcfg, or use DHCP (ipcfg dhcp)
> >>
> >> enjoy!
> >>
> >> Mateusz
> >>
> >>
> >>
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