Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

2022-12-15 Thread Björn Morell
Plop sounds good :) I use a floppy on my old 486 to allow me to boot 
from CD (boots both the legacy and the live freedos cd)


Den 2022-12-15 kl. 12:12, skrev Liam Proven:

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 20:39, Walter Vermeir  wrote:

My new old laptop has 32mb RAM. KolibriOS needs 8mb RAM. Looks
interesting. But also did not boot.

OK, hang on.

You did not give us much info at the beginning.

32 *MB* RAM? Megabytes?

That is a very old laptop, then. As in around 25 years old?


The bios settings has only the listing to change the boot sequence order
between FDD and HDD.

It does not have support for booting from a CD?

Then it is vintage kit, and no, I don't think anything in the gigabyte
range will work.

DOS-era machines had many limitations on IDE disk support, and
depending on age, the biggest disk they will support could be 512MB
(½GB), 1GB, 2GB, or maybe for later ones (e.g. PowerMac G3), 8GB.

32GB is well over all of those and it's much much too big.

Secondly, how are you attaching an SD card to a DOS-era machine with
32MB of RAM? That is before SD existed. It's mostly before USB too --
maybe USB 1 at best.

If you want to boot a DOS-era machine from removable mass storage, try
the PLOP boot manager.

https://www.plop.at/
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Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

2022-12-13 Thread Björn Morell
I do not know how freedos talk to services but I load FreeDos with GRUB 
on one machine and with LILO on another one.


Den 2022-12-13 kl. 22:02, skrev Roderick Klein:

On 13-12-22 21:41, Björn Morell wrote:

I think GRUB boot loader could help as it is an UEFI application. SD
with one nix partition and one FAT partition for FreeDos 2 Gb or less.


The problem is tha when you can load DOS on a UEFI system. What BIOS 
services does FreeDOS talk to ?


Roderick



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Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

2022-12-13 Thread Björn Morell

forgot the link

https://linuxhint.com/boot-usb-using-grub/

Den 2022-12-13 kl. 20:37, skrev Walter Vermeir:

Op 13/12/2022 om 18:05 schreef Jerome Shidel:

Did you try to boot the LegacyCD or the LiveCD?


I tried both.

And also tried KolibriOS

http://kolibrios.org/en/

My new old laptop has 32mb RAM. KolibriOS needs 8mb RAM. Looks 
interesting. But also did not boot.


The bios settings has only the listing to change the boot sequence 
order between FDD and HDD.


Walter






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Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

2022-12-13 Thread Björn Morell
I think GRUB boot loader could help as it is an UEFI application. SD 
with one nix partition and one FAT partition for FreeDos 2 Gb or less.


Den 2022-12-13 kl. 20:37, skrev Walter Vermeir:

Op 13/12/2022 om 18:05 schreef Jerome Shidel:

Did you try to boot the LegacyCD or the LiveCD?


I tried both.

And also tried KolibriOS

http://kolibrios.org/en/

My new old laptop has 32mb RAM. KolibriOS needs 8mb RAM. Looks 
interesting. But also did not boot.


The bios settings has only the listing to change the boot sequence 
order between FDD and HDD.


Walter






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Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

2022-12-10 Thread Björn Morell

Sorry I miss read in my first reply.

You want to boot from SD, never tried that. I have FreeDos installed on 
a partition on my nix machine (second generaiton i7) and can chose it in 
the GRUB menu). Maybe install FreeDos on a partition made with gparted 
on the SD with your linux distro ?


Den 2022-12-10 kl. 10:17, skrev Björn Morell:


Den 2022-12-09 kl. 22:17, skrev Walter Vermeir:


Hi,

I am trying install FreeDOS on my computer (not virtual) now for a 
while and failing long enough to acknowledge that I need to ask for 
help.


Last time I installed DOS I was using a 486 with a diskette drive. My 
daily driver is Linux since the last 20 years.


I have been using two 32gb SD-cards. When I write the ISO of my Linux 
distro to the SD-cards I can boot from those SD cards without a problem.


When I write the FreeDOS ISO to the SD-cards or the FreeDOS USB 
version , the IMG  file, to the  SD-cards it gives nothing. When I 
select the device to boot from it just jumps back to the boot device 
select menu of my BIOS. No error.


Have written the FreeDOS ISO to both DS-cards with check of the write 
was correct. And also with the IMG file. Makes not difference.


I must be missing something obvious.

Would appreciate suggestions.

The computer I am trying to boot it from is this very modest mini-pc, 
using the usb-port with a SD-to-usb adapter. Has an Intel Celeron J4115.


https://www.bmax-eu.com/collections/bmax-mini-pc/products/bmax-b2-plus

Thanks,

Walter

I guess there is different ways to install, I put the IMG on to a CD, 
booted my IBM 486 100 Mhz with a floopy that lets me boot from CD, 
then I install FreeDos to the CF-card (in a CF to IDE adapter), the 
CF card I prepared with GParted on a nix machine, used <2 GB 
partition and FAT16. I did the same thing on a 1000 Mhz Coppermine.



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Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

2022-12-10 Thread Björn Morell

Den 2022-12-09 kl. 22:17, skrev Walter Vermeir:


Hi,

I am trying install FreeDOS on my computer (not virtual) now for a 
while and failing long enough to acknowledge that I need to ask for help.


Last time I installed DOS I was using a 486 with a diskette drive. My 
daily driver is Linux since the last 20 years.


I have been using two 32gb SD-cards. When I write the ISO of my Linux 
distro to the SD-cards I can boot from those SD cards without a problem.


When I write the FreeDOS ISO to the SD-cards or the FreeDOS USB 
version , the IMG  file, to the  SD-cards it gives nothing. When I 
select the device to boot from it just jumps back to the boot device 
select menu of my BIOS. No error.


Have written the FreeDOS ISO to both DS-cards with check of the write 
was correct. And also with the IMG file. Makes not difference.


I must be missing something obvious.

Would appreciate suggestions.

The computer I am trying to boot it from is this very modest mini-pc, 
using the usb-port with a SD-to-usb adapter. Has an Intel Celeron J4115.


https://www.bmax-eu.com/collections/bmax-mini-pc/products/bmax-b2-plus

Thanks,

Walter

I guess there is different ways to install, I put the IMG on to a CD, 
booted my IBM 486 100 Mhz with a floopy that lets me boot from CD, 
then I install FreeDos to the CF-card (in a CF to IDE adapter), the CF 
card I prepared with GParted on a nix machine, used <2 GB partition 
and FAT16. I did the same thing on a 1000 Mhz Coppermine.



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

2022-08-30 Thread Björn Morell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rWF-kqE

Den 2022-08-30 kl. 12:02, skrev Karen Lewellen:
with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone 
knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat 
their computer keyboard like a music one?

Need not tap dance as it were, just allow for some basic work.
Ideas?
Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

2022-08-01 Thread Björn Morell


Den 2022-07-31 kl. 23:22, skrev Liam Proven:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 23:03, Joao Silva  wrote:

Yes it's a manager, but you can run commands from the command line in mc

But if I just wanted to run commands, I could do that anyway, without
it, surely?

I am not looking for a file manager, but something that gives a
navigable, categorised list of installed programs, with descriptions.

Failing that, a point-and-click GUI that lets users navigate
directories and start DOS apps without typing.
File wizard and Norton Commander both have configurable launch menus  (I 
am using Doug menu though , but it takes more work to configure).
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Re: [Freedos-user] FD13 floppy installation attempts

2022-06-28 Thread Björn Morell


Den 2022-06-28 kl. 03:30, skrev Jerome Shidel:

Hi,


On Jun 27, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Pierre LaMontagne  wrote:


First of all, I think FreeDOS is an outstanding replacement for the 
discontinued MS-DOS!!!

I've been a happy camper & been a big fan of FreeDOS since v1.1. I use it mainly on 
my 'ancient' PC. This PC has been around since the late 1990s. I  built it myself. It 
has an Intel Pentium III 450mhz CPU on an Asus P3b-F motherboard with one 256kb DIMM 
for RAM & VGA graphics on an AGP-4x video card (I think it's an NVIDIA 6200 GPU???).

I usually use Linux (Ubuntu 20.04). It's on  another OLD, but not quite as old 
PC, (about 10 years old) ... I've become a big fan of freeware!

My 3rd PC (about the same age as the Linux PC) has Win 10 on it. I rarely use it anymore 
especially with the Win 11 release. ("I seen the writing on the wall" with 
Win11)

I've recently wanted to upgrade my oldest PC as much as I could which includes 
going  from FreeDOS 1.1 to FreeDOS 1.3. I dowloaded the packages that I thought 
I needed.

I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure this oldest PC of mine won't boot from a 
CD. So I extracted the legacy ZIP which contained a floppy boot image & a CD 
ISO file. I then tried to extract the floppy IMG file to a new-never-used 1.44 mb 
floppy in hopes to later create a boot floppy in Ubuntu, but I couldn't even get 
that far because the floppy image file wouldn't fit on the new 1.44mb floppy. I 
then tried using the DVD drive to put the floppy IMG file on it but, writing to the 
DVD drive in a DOS environment won't work (at least not with my limited 
knowledge)...

So now I'm stuck & don't know what else I can do. :(
Any suggestions/help???


First, do not extract the files from Floppy Boot Diskette Image for the 
LegacyCD and try to use those files to make a boot diskette. While it can be 
done, it is tedious and error prone.

What you want to do is write the Boot Diskette Image to the Floppy Device. So, 
what you want to do is the following…

1) insert the Floppy Diskette you want to overwrite. (Either an old school one 
using the floppy controller or even a newer USB floppy drive)

2) figure out the the device name (probably /dev/floppy or /dev/floppy0).

3) unmount the floppy device. But, do not eject the diskette.

4) as superuser write the image file to the floppy device. example: “sudo dd 
if=FD13BOOT.img of=/dev/floppy” You can add options for block size and count. 
However, it usually works fine without them. WARNING: make sure it is actually 
the floppy and not a hard drive or other device. If you write it to the wrong 
device, you will destroy the filesystem on that device.

Depending on the speed of your floppy drive, it will probably take 5-7+ minutes 
to write the image. But once finished writing, your done. You will have a 
Floppy Boot Diskette for the CD ROM.

:-)

Jerome



I have installed freedos 1.3 on my 486 100 mhz which have floppy and cd 
drive, it cannot boot from cd


but using a bootable floppy with bcloader.sys and cdromdrv.sys I can 
boot and install from both the legacy cd and the regular and install 
from them.


http://bootcd.narod.ru/index_e.htm

Bear




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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

2022-03-31 Thread Björn Morell

Hi John

Fun with someone using a real machine, I am using an IBM 100DX4 running, 
Freedos, DrDos and DSL (Damn Small Linux) all on three compact flash 
drives.


I would try File Wizard and its internal editor, 
https://dos.retro.software/downloads/download/290-file-managers/1467-file-wizard-1-35, 
like using Norton commander but better.


What kind of 486 do you run ?

Bear


Den 2022-03-31 kl. 12:49, skrev John Vella:
I am using edit at the moment,so it might be safer to stick with that. 
By safer, I mean not installing windows, which also contains too many 
distractions!


On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:43 Joao Silva,  wrote:

If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.

If you want to stick to dos get edit.com  from
DOS, i'm using it and works just fine.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella 
wrote:

Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines
per chapter.

I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows
3.11 and try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:

Hi!

You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files...
can't handle 2968 lines

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella
 wrote:

I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess
myself here... Reading a totally unrelated email at
work this morning, I wondered why I'm even bothering
with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm
not interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the
editing machine, so bringing it down to the minimum,
freedos and whatever text editor is included would
actually do the job nicely.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,
 wrote:

Hi John,

> So, I've got the 486 computer working and am
ready to install freedos
> and wordperfect.

What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
Probably just the BASE packages.
Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.

You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314


SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is
currently still from FD 1.2,
IIRC.

Cheers,
Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

2022-03-30 Thread Björn Morell

My fav is the internal editor in File Wizard :)

Den 2022-03-30 kl. 18:35, skrev Louis Santillan:

FreeDOS Edit, SETEdit, vi, pico.  All great basic DoS text editors.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 4:59 AM John Vella  wrote:

I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered
why I'm even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text
editor. I'm not interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the
editing machine, so bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and
whatever text editor is included would actually do the job nicely.





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[Freedos-user] Chaning config in freedos (DrDos like) ?

2022-03-15 Thread Björn Morell
Can one chain to a different config in fdconfig.sys ? Like one can do in 
DrDos 7.03.


Bear




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Re: [Freedos-user] 286 Installation on CF Card

2022-03-12 Thread Björn Morell
If you have any machine with a CF reader/writer (I use an packard bell 
wih an i7 and linux mint) and a CF to IDE card there should be no 
problems (if the 286 have a hard drive). to install from CF hard drive 
to the 286 hard drive or copy fils to the hard drive and then install to 
the CF.


Den 2022-02-24 kl. 09:23, skrev Liam Proven:

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 21:59, Frank Pioch  wrote:

I am trying to install Freedos 1.2 or 1.3 on a 286 with a CF card.
  Unfortunately, I don't have a floppy disk drive on my Win10 PC, so I make the 
detour via this trick:

http://theinstructionlimit.com/installing-ms-dos-6-22-on-a-486-without-a-floppy-drive-using-a-cf-to-ide-adapter

I tried to read that, but honestly, with the mistakes and factual
errors in the page, I got distracted.

Can you summarise what you are trying to do?

My impression is:

[1] attach CF card to Vbox VM as its hard disk – yes, that should work.

I describe how to do that onto a USB key in my tech blog, here:
https://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/50416.html

[2] install DOS onto CF card — OK, easy

[3] move CF card to vintage PC and use it – OK, easy

What is the problem and where is it going wrong?

What make/model of 80286, just out of interest?

Considered putting a cheap USB floppy drive onto your Win10 machine?




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Re: [Freedos-user] Fdnet

2022-03-08 Thread Björn Morell


Den 2022-03-08 kl. 12:55, skrev Jerome Shidel:



On Mar 8, 2022, at 4:44 AM, Björn Morell  wrote:

I run MTCP and have for a while and it works great, ftp server etc. I have 
fresh installatio of 1.3 on an

old fujitsi-siemens 1000 mhz, with an intel 815 chipset so the e1000pkt works 
fine with DHCP and it

updates the .cfg. I ran the wattcp.bat and have a wattcp.cfg in freedos\bin. 
Paths to wattcp and MTCP

cfgs in fdauto.bat and this, as suggested in freedos wiki instructions, fdauto:

"if not exist %dosdir%\bin\fdnet.bat goto NoNetwork

e1000pkt 0x60

call %dosdir%\bin\fdnet.bat start

c:\ddhcp\ddhcp /w /f"

But i get this at boot (ftpsrv, browsing etc. works though) ;


"

Packet Driver for Intel (R) PRO/1000 Family of Desktop & Server adapters v0.50

Copyright (C) Intel Corportation 2006. All rights reserved.

PCI BIOS is required for this driver

HERE COMES THE STRANGE PART

Physical network not supported at the moment (My translation from swedish).

IP address : 192.168.1.247

Netmask   : 255.255.255.0

Gateway   : 192.168.1.1

DNS sever : 192.168.1.1

Lease time: 43200 "


What am I doing wrong to get the same Message as before I configured anything ?

things work though !

Have good day :)

FDNET only supports a select set of drivers. It is displaying that message.

Since, networking is configured, you are manually loading a packet driver and 
manually configuring dhcp, there really is no reason to call FDNET.

Simply REM the call to FDNET. It will prevent the message.



Bear


Thanx for prompt answer,

Yes I figured it was no biggy :)  Many things will be gone from 
Fdauto.bat, not necessary with all the batch files the original goes 
through.



Bear








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[Freedos-user] Fdnet

2022-03-08 Thread Björn Morell
I run MTCP and have for a while and it works great, ftp server etc. I 
have fresh installatio of 1.3 on an


old fujitsi-siemens 1000 mhz, with an intel 815 chipset so the e1000pkt 
works fine with DHCP and it


updates the .cfg. I ran the wattcp.bat and have a wattcp.cfg in 
freedos\bin. Paths to wattcp and MTCP


cfgs in fdauto.bat and this, as suggested in freedos wiki instructions, 
fdauto:


"if not exist %dosdir%\bin\fdnet.bat goto NoNetwork

e1000pkt 0x60

call %dosdir%\bin\fdnet.bat start

c:\ddhcp\ddhcp /w /f"

But i get this at boot (ftpsrv, browsing etc. works though) ;


"

Packet Driver for Intel (R) PRO/1000 Family of Desktop & Server adapters 
v0.50


Copyright (C) Intel Corportation 2006. All rights reserved.

PCI BIOS is required for this driver

HERE COMES THE STRANGE PART

   Physical network not supported at the moment (My translation from 
swedish).


IP address : 192.168.1.247

Netmask   : 255.255.255.0

Gateway   : 192.168.1.1

DNS sever : 192.168.1.1

Lease time: 43200 "


What am I doing wrong to get the same Message as before I configured 
anything ?


things work though !

Have good day :)

Bear






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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos & Arachne

2022-03-08 Thread Björn Morell
I second that, Links 2.25 is nice especially on slower machines ( i run 
real ones , one 100 mhz and one 1000 mhz).


Den 2022-03-08 kl. 07:05, skrev Louis Santillan:
You might try Links2 Browser in graphics mode. 2.25 is the latest 
version.


http://links.twibright.com/download/binaries/dos/links-2.25.exe

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:02 AM  wrote:



Hi!
I have used Archne for a long time many years ago.
Currently, both in freedos 1.2 and 1.3, ( no dosbox ) even with
the latest release of Arachne it is in fact impossible for me to
use it.
 I know of arachne's well known issues with https and jv, but it
also seems to not recognize the normal wattcp.cfg I use with
links, lynx or gopherus. In fact I have to manually set my ip
address, nameserver, gateway and even then it is very slow and
often crashes. Even in off-line mode, for example as a .jpg
viewer, it is very slow and tends to freeze.
 Are there any underlying incompatibilities with freedos? is the
16 bit problem? a recognition problem from my ADSL fast fiber line?
Yet, I repeat, with my ethernet drivers both links and gopherus
are fine and fast.
thanks Andrea



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[Freedos-user] How to upgrade 1.3 RC5 to 1.3

2022-02-21 Thread Björn Morell

How do  I upgrade 1.3 RC5 to 1.3 on a 486 ( I can use bootcd ) ?



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[Freedos-user] Question, HX dos extender.

2022-02-17 Thread Björn Morell

Hi :)

HX is tested in Freedos 1.0 I believe,  does it work in ver. 1.3 RC5 ? 
Has anybody here tested ?


https://sourceforge.net/projects/hx-dos/files/2.17/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Difference Freedos 1.3 RC5 / RC4 ? clarification

2022-02-15 Thread Björn Morell

It worked fine in dougmenu with Fdos 1,3 RC4

Den 2022-02-14 kl. 21:47, skrev Björn Morell:

Hi

The only thing I noticed is that Ansiplus scrollback does not work if 
Dougmenu 1.77 or Domenu (1.72) is running or has been running but fine 
before I run dougmenu.




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[Freedos-user] Difference Fdos 1.3 RC5 / RC4 ?

2022-02-14 Thread Björn Morell

Hi

The only thing I noticed is that Ansiplus scrollback does not work if 
Dougmenu 1.77 or Domenu (1.72) is running or has been running but fine 
before I run dougmenu.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98

2022-02-12 Thread Björn Morell
Yes, when booting to Freedos (or DrDos) it wll be C: and my W95 will be 
D: and a logical partiton E:


booting to W95 it will be C: and freedos/drdos will be D: and te logical E:

booting to linux it will be on hd1 (swap on hda2 and backup on hda3) and 
freedos on hb1 and drdos on hb2 and w95 on hdc1


Den 2022-02-12 kl. 13:02, skrev Liam Proven:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 01:52, Travis Siegel  wrote:

Not true.

Sometimes true.


If both of the partitions are primary partitions, and the bootable flag is 
swapped from one to the other, then when one boots, the second will be drive 
d:, and vice versa.

It depends on the OSes in use.

The formal DOS schema is:

[1 primary and then one extended containing multiple logical drives] x per drive

Letter allocation is complicated:
DOS and DOS-based OSes:
[1] iterate through physical drives assigning letters to primary
partitions in drive order, starting at C
Then
[2] iterate through all logical drives on each drive assigning letters

So if there is:

1:[(primary){extended(logical 1)(logical 2)}]
2: [(primary){extended(logical 1)(logical 2)}]

Then you will get this:

1:[(primary C:){extended(logical 1 E:)(logical 2 F:)}]
2: [(primary D:){extended(logical 1 G:)(logical 2 H:)}]

Drive letters are not in physical drive sequence.

Note: there is only 1 permitted primary per drive.

If you have >1 visible primary per drive, Win NT 3-4 would fail with a BSOD.

Win95B and on, which support FAT32, might handle it, but might also
fail to boot. I've never managed to pin down all variations.

Win2K could handle it but would BSOD if the partitions were not in
numerical order:

1:[(primary){extended(logical 1)(logical 2)}] <- fine, works
1:[(primary){extended(logical 2)(logical 1)}] <- BSOD on boot-up

XP could handle it.

Vista and on dump all the old DOS-based logic and use a new system.

But DOS is tricky these days. Many people have extracted "MS-DOS 7.1"
from Win98 and use it standalone. I *think* these variants *can*
handle >1 visible (unhidden) primary, but I have a suspicion that the
old FAT16-only versions can't.

But you're not meant to do this; it wasn't in the DOS design.
Additional primaries were for non-DOS OSes with formats that DOS can't
read: back then, Netware, Xenix, etc.

It may work in later versions, but I advise against totally relying on it.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98

2022-02-12 Thread Björn Morell

Hmm.

 I have two  primary partitions, Freedos and DrDos on a drive and only 
the active one is visible.


 I have 3 drives, first one has Damn Small Linux and LILO as boot 
manager second has Freedos and Drdos and the third Windows 95 (with Lite 
Step shell).


In DSL I can mount them all, booting to Freedos I can see Windows but 
not DrDos, if I boot to DrDos I can see Windows but not Freedos.


I have not tried regular fdisk though only xfdisk there one activates or 
deactivates and Show and Hide in fdisk there is only activate or 
deactivate so that could work, I guess you have to run fdisk and 
rebooteach time you want to change though.




Den 2022-02-12 kl. 01:50, skrev Travis Siegel:


Not true.

If both of the partitions are primary partitions, and the bootable 
flag is swapped from one to the other, then when one boots, the second 
will be drive d:, and vice versa.  I used to use the fdisk method all 
the time, I dual booted linux, and dos, so I see no reason why it 
wouldn't work with windows and dos as well.  Obviously,, I couldn't 
access the linux partition from dos, because it didn't read the linux 
file system, but linux had no trouble seeing the dos partition, and 
another friend I had used dos/windows (as requested in the original 
post), and that worked just fine, he could see both drives no matter 
which os he booted.


Obviously, I've not tried this in years, but I see no reason why 
things would have changed in this regard.



On 2/11/2022 5:08 PM, Björn Morell wrote:


If you want to access one from the other you cannot as it will be 
hidden, for that to work you need separat drives or the coplcated 
method, if not xfdisk on a bootable floppy or usb will be handy while 
installing.


Den 2022-02-11 kl. 22:14, skrev [GlassNerves] via Freedos-user:

Thanks for the answers guys. I see i have a lot of options.
I don't wanna to install FreeDOS in the same partition of Windows 98 
because this is complicated as hell. I will make two partitions and 
will be using the xfdisk method.


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Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98

2022-02-11 Thread Björn Morell
If you want to access one from the other you cannot as it will be 
hidden, for that to work you need separat drives or the coplcated 
method, if not xfdisk on a bootable floppy or usb will be handy while 
installing.


Den 2022-02-11 kl. 22:14, skrev [GlassNerves] via Freedos-user:

Thanks for the answers guys. I see i have a lot of options.
I don't wanna to install FreeDOS in the same partition of Windows 98 
because this is complicated as hell. I will make two partitions and 
will be using the xfdisk method.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98

2022-02-11 Thread Björn Morell

H !

How about making 2 partitions on the drive  and use xfdisk to make the 
partitions whitch have a boot  manager that hide and shows desired 
partition  ? Install Freedos and xfdisk on the first and then hide it 
and instal windows on the second.




Den 2022-02-11 kl. 09:40, skrev Eric Auer:


Hi!


Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?


It is possible, but not easy to install. Both Win98 and FreeDOS
can use the same FAT32 C: drive, so you need a boot sector side
boot menu such as my "metakern". You can also use a MBR style
boot menu which alternately hides one of two FAT partitions,
but I have no experience with that.

To install, you first have to install Windows 98. Then you need
a tool to make a copy of the Windows boot sector and store that
as a file. I think you can use options of our SYS tool to achieve
that. Also make a backup of your config.sys, then install FreeDOS.

Metakern is then used together with the backup of your Windows
boot sector to create a "kernel" file and you use FreeDOS SYS
to change the boot sector of your C: drive to one which loads
that "meta-kernel".

Booting C: will now open a menu where you can either continue
to boot FreeDOS or switch to booting Windows. You have to use
FDCONFIG.SYS for FreeDOS (if it finds one, it will use that
instead of CONFIG.SYS, so the latter stays free for Win98: If
the FreeDOS installer has overwritten the Windows config, you
can rename the FreeDOS config and copy back your backup of the
Windows config). Also, your FDCONFIG.SYS SHELL line has to say
that you want to use FreeDOS FreeCOM instead of command.com of
Win98 with a FreeDOS batch file other than AUTOEXEC.BAT, so you
can keep the latter free for Win98 use.

If anything goes wrong, simply use our SYS to copy your backup
of the Win98 boot sector over the C: boot sector, so you remove
the menu and boot directly into Win98 again. As mentioned, make
sure to backup your config.sys, autoexec.bat, command.com and
boot sector BEFORE you install FreeDOS. So in case any of them
gets overwritten, you can rename the FreeDOS version and copy
back the Windows version.

Regards, Eric

PS: Metakern can aloso offer to continue booting into WinNT/XP/...
or Linux primary partitions if it detects those in the MBR. Patching
the FreeDOS boot sector in RAM, it should be able to work from any
partition where FreeDOS works, but SYS may have started to show some
incompatibilities at any time since 2003. Use at your own risk :-)





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Re: [Freedos-user] which mpxplay?

2022-02-09 Thread Björn Morell
Hi, In the docs ,i sndcard.txt you will find what to do with different 
sound cards, either with switches or in the ini file, just download 
1.66d or g (g needs dos4gw, d has dos32a).


Den 2022-02-09 kl. 03:36, skrev Karen Lewellen:

Hi bear,
Thanks for this.  sorry needed to check.
it seems I have mpxplay 147 156 157   and 159.
I have not tried 166 but will seek that out.
I am not running freedos, but a ms dos 7.1  package on a Pentium 3 
machine.

 the best news for me here is that I can perhaps manipulate the ini file?
This specific machine has the sound card on a different IRQ so I will 
need to adjust that if possible.

Thanks for providing your additions for me,
Karen



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 I run ver. 166d on my freedos 1.3 RC5 installation on an IBM 486 100 
mhz It may take some tweaking in the ini file I can run it with 
graphics as well (and scroll, pick and start works with cutemouse /O 
but starting with the -f0 switch "mpxplay -f0 song.mp3" no gui gives 
the best sound on this machine, on what are you running yours ? I 
have a bunch of versions from 1.47 which does not take all switches 
but runs easy, 1.534 is made for 486:s, 1.56d, 1.65d ,1.65g (needs 
dos4gw)  and 1.66. Read the text files and the ini file and you will 
have the info you need.


Bear

Den 2022-02-06 kl. 23:04, skrev Karen Lewellen:

 Hi folks,
 I am asking for specifics, as I believe? Eric noted when the 
program was

 last updated that for simple DOS usage things may be less flexible.
 so, if one is not running graphics, which edition of mpxplay is best?
 I have several older ones, if upgrading is unwise.
 still, because this DOS machine uses a different IRQ, I will need 
to tell

 the program where to find my soundcard.
 Alternatively, has  anyone here used the 2012 DOS compile of mplayer?
 I got the package, but there is no DOS focused documentation.
 Thanks,
 Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] which mpxplay?

2022-02-06 Thread Björn Morell
 I run ver. 166d on my freedos 1.3 RC5 installation on an IBM 486 100 
mhz It may take some tweaking in the ini file I can run it with graphics 
as well (and scroll, pick and start works with cutemouse /O but starting 
with the -f0 switch "mpxplay -f0 song.mp3" no gui gives the best sound 
on this machine, on what are you running yours ? I have a bunch of 
versions from 1.47 which does not take all switches but runs easy, 1.534 
is made for 486:s, 1.56d, 1.65d ,1.65g (needs dos4gw)  and 1.66. Read 
the text files and the ini file and you will have the info you need.


Bear

Den 2022-02-06 kl. 23:04, skrev Karen Lewellen:

Hi folks,
I am asking for specifics, as I believe? Eric noted when the program 
was last updated that for simple DOS usage things may be less flexible.

so, if one is not running graphics, which edition of mpxplay is best?
I have several older ones, if upgrading is unwise.
still, because this DOS machine uses a different IRQ, I will need to 
tell the program where to find my soundcard.

Alternatively, has  anyone here used the 2012 DOS compile of mplayer?
I got the package, but there is no DOS focused documentation.
Thanks,
Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] Lilo, GRUB etc.

2022-01-29 Thread Björn Morell
I haven't tried bootmanager but a few others they all had trouble with 
DrDos lilo was the only one (can be used without linux as well as GRUB) 
tha could, I have linux because I want to se what can be done with ths 
old 486 :)


Den 2022-01-29 kl. 02:21, skrev Björn Morell:



Den 2022-01-28 kl. 21:08, skrev Björn Morell:


Looks right to me and yes GRUB is not that easy, I have a similar 
machine an IBM 4DX 100 MHz with


3 Compact flash drives (CF to IDE) and one CDRW via a soudblaster IDE 
interface, works really well


with UDVD2 even burning CDs from DOS.

DSL on hda1  Freedos on hdb1 , Dr-Dos on hdb2  and windows 95 (with 
lite step


shell ) on hdc1 -

Never managed to boot Dr-Dos from GRUB so I installed Damn Small 
Linux4.11 RC2 and picked Lilo as


bootloader, It allmoust worked out of the box everything booted 
except Dr-Dos but LILO has some good


switches:

other=/dev/hdb1

  label="FreeDos(hdb1)"

  change automatic partition=/dev/hdb2 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb1 
activate


  boot-as=0x80


other=/dev/hdb1

  label="DrDos(hdb1)"

  change automatic partition=/dev/hdb1 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb2 
activate


  boot-as=0x80


other=/dev/hdc1

 label="Win95(hdc1)

 boot-as=0x80

Works fine I can boot all 4 without a problem.




Den 2022-01-27 kl. 13:42, skrev Daniel:
I have a old Dell laptop that was originally XP that now is 
tri-boot.  I have FreeDos 1.3 RC5, XP, and even Linux.


In order to do this you cannot simply install everything normally, 
at least as far as I know.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong here.


Here is the steps that I found that works:
First wipe the drive that you want to use, then using fdisk setup a 
partition for FreeDOS and another for the other operating system as 
an extended partition. Format and install FreeDOS on the first 
partition.  Do nothing for the second partition.  Leave it alone 
until you have installed FreeDOS installed andworking.


Once it is installed and working, install the Linux distro you want 
and tell it to setup and use the second partition you had set up in 
fdisk.


This should allow you to use both Linux and FreeDOS together.

Notice: Order of install matters!  If you installed Linux, then 
installed freeDOS you will need to update your grub to see and use 
the new FreeDOS system which can be a pest.


I hope this was helpful.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:33:22 +0100
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Il 26.01.2022 00:39 Jerome Shidel ha scritto:

>> On Jan 25, 2022,
at 4:16 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it [1] wrote:
>>
>> OK, it's an old
annoing question:I have a laptop with linux installed and I created
another dos / fat 32 partition where I installed freedos 1.3.
(before
installing freedos I activated C:ms-dos with part.exe).
>> OK Freedos,
but disappears Linux MBR, and I can't anymore access linux
although I
have grub installed.
>> With GAG cd live you see linux but it is not
loaded due to problems in the MBR.
>> The only way to repair the MBR and
log in again in linux was to use the BOOT REPAIR live cd.
>> Or another
way to solve the problem?
>> Thanks,
>> andrea
> During installation,
the installer creates two backups and stores them in C:FreeDOS as
BOOT.MBR and BOOT.BSS. The MBR is created by FDISK when it is
told to
update the boot code. The second is created by the SYS command. You
should be able to use FDISK to restore the MBR.
> There is an excellent
free DOS utility called MBRTOOL. It is not open source and has some
other distribution restrictions. But, it is free and can be legally
distributed as-is. Do to those restrictions it cannot be
included with
the FreeDOS release. But, you can grab a mirrored copy from my
website
 

Re: [Freedos-user] Lilo, GRUB etc.

2022-01-29 Thread Björn Morell
Yes that works with fdisk and xfdisk but not fun to do everytime you 
want to change OS and the CF memories  have are not big 1 Gb 2 x 2GB and 
one 4gb in three slot on back of puter so easy to change :)


About LiLo, this line activate on partitio and hides the other:

change automatic partition=/dev/hdb2 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb1 activate

Den 2022-01-29 kl. 19:44, skrev Travis Siegel:
change automatic partition=/dev/hdb2 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb1 
activate



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[Freedos-user] Lilo, GRUB etc.

2022-01-28 Thread Björn Morell


Den 2022-01-28 kl. 21:08, skrev Björn Morell:


Looks right to me and yes GRUB is not that easy, I have a similar 
machine an IBM 4DX 100 MHz with


3 Compact flash drives (CF to IDE) and one CDRW via a soudblaster IDE 
interface, works really well


with UDVD2 even burning CDs from DOS.

DSL on hda1  Freedos on hdb1 , Dr-Dos on hdb2  and windows 95 (with 
lite step


shell ) on hdc1 -

Never managed to boot Dr-Dos from GRUB so I installed Damn Small 
Linux4.11 RC2 and picked Lilo as


bootloader, It allmoust worked out of the box everything booted except 
Dr-Dos but LILO has some good


switches:

other=/dev/hdb1

  label="FreeDos(hdb1)"

  change automatic partition=/dev/hdb2 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb1 
activate


  boot-as=0x80


other=/dev/hdb1

  label="DrDos(hdb1)"

  change automatic partition=/dev/hdb1 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb2 
activate


  boot-as=0x80


other=/dev/hdc1

 label="Win95(hdc1)

 boot-as=0x80

Works fine I can boot all 4 without a problem.




Den 2022-01-27 kl. 13:42, skrev Daniel:
I have a old Dell laptop that was originally XP that now is 
tri-boot.  I have FreeDos 1.3 RC5, XP, and even Linux.


In order to do this you cannot simply install everything normally, at 
least as far as I know.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong here.


Here is the steps that I found that works:
First wipe the drive that you want to use, then using fdisk setup a 
partition for FreeDOS and another for the other operating system as 
an extended partition.  Format and install FreeDOS on the first 
partition.  Do nothing for the second partition.  Leave it alone 
until you have installed FreeDOS installed andworking.


Once it is installed and working, install the Linux distro you want 
and tell it to setup and use the second partition you had set up in 
fdisk.


This should allow you to use both Linux and FreeDOS together.

Notice: Order of install matters!  If you installed Linux, then 
installed freeDOS you will need to update your grub to see and use 
the new FreeDOS system which can be a pest.


I hope this was helpful.

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Il 26.01.2022 00:39 Jerome Shidel ha scritto:

>> On Jan 25, 2022,
at 4:16 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it [1] wrote:
>>
>> OK, it's an old
annoing question:I have a laptop with linux installed and I created
another dos / fat 32 partition where I installed freedos 1.3. (before
installing freedos I activated C:ms-dos with part.exe).
>> OK Freedos,
but disappears Linux MBR, and I can't anymore access linux although I
have grub installed.
>> With GAG cd live you see linux but it is not
loaded due to problems in the MBR.
>> The only way to repair the MBR and
log in again in linux was to use the BOOT REPAIR live cd.
>> Or another
way to solve the problem?
>> Thanks,
>> andrea
> During installation,
the installer creates two backups and stores them in C:FreeDOS as
BOOT.MBR and BOOT.BSS. The MBR is created by FDISK when it is told to
update the boot code. The second is created by the SYS command. You
should be able to use FDISK to restore the MBR.
> There is an excellent
free DOS utility called MBRTOOL. It is not open source and has some
other distribution restrictions. But, it is free and can be legally
distributed as-is. Do to those restrictions it cannot be included
with
the FreeDOS release. But, you can grab a mirrored copy from my
website
at https://fd.lod.bz/redist/disk/MBRtool/ [4] v1.x is much
smaller than
v2.x. But, both work really well. It is a great tool to have laying
around for emergencies.
> :-)
> Jerome
> Thank you for your interest,
I will try to be more carefu

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2173, Issue 1

2022-01-28 Thread Björn Morell
Looks right to me and yes GRUB is not that easy, I have a similar 
machine an IBM 4DX 100 MHz with


3 Compact flash drives (CF to IDE) and one CDRW via a soudblaster IDE 
interface, works really well


with UDVD2 even burning CDs from DOS.

DSL on hda1  Freedos on hdb1 , Dr-Dos on hdb2  and windows 95 (with lite 
step


shell ) on hdc1 -

Never managed to boot Dr-Dos from GRUB so I installed Damn Small 
Linux4.11 RC2 and picked Lilo as


bootloader, It allmoust worked out of the box everything booted except 
Dr-Dos but LILO has some good


switches:

other=/dev/hdb1

  label="FreeDos(hdb1)"

  change automatic partition=/dev/hdb2 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb1 
activate


  boot-as=0x80


other=/dev/hdb1

  label="DrDos(hdb1)"

  change automatic partition=/dev/hdb1 deactivate partition=/dev/hdb2 
activate


  boot-as=0x80


other=/dev/hdc1

 label="Win95(hdc1)

 boot-as=0x80

Works fine I can boot all 4 without a problem.




Den 2022-01-27 kl. 13:42, skrev Daniel:
I have a old Dell laptop that was originally XP that now is tri-boot.  
I have FreeDos 1.3 RC5, XP, and even Linux.


In order to do this you cannot simply install everything normally, at 
least as far as I know.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong here.


Here is the steps that I found that works:
First wipe the drive that you want to use, then using fdisk setup a 
partition for FreeDOS and another for the other operating system as an 
extended partition.  Format and install FreeDOS on the first 
partition.  Do nothing for the second partition.  Leave it alone until 
you have installed FreeDOS installed andworking.


Once it is installed and working, install the Linux distro you want 
and tell it to setup and use the second partition you had set up in fdisk.


This should allow you to use both Linux and FreeDOS together.

Notice: Order of install matters!  If you installed Linux, then 
installed freeDOS you will need to update your grub to see and use the 
new FreeDOS system which can be a pest.


I hope this was helpful.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:33:22 +0100
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Il 26.01.2022 00:39 Jerome Shidel ha scritto:

>> On Jan 25, 2022,
at 4:16 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it [1] wrote:
>>
>> OK, it's an old
annoing question:I have a laptop with linux installed and I created
another dos / fat 32 partition where I installed freedos 1.3. (before
installing freedos I activated C:ms-dos with part.exe).
>> OK Freedos,
but disappears Linux MBR, and I can't anymore access linux although I
have grub installed.
>> With GAG cd live you see linux but it is not
loaded due to problems in the MBR.
>> The only way to repair the MBR and
log in again in linux was to use the BOOT REPAIR live cd.
>> Or another
way to solve the problem?
>> Thanks,
>> andrea
> During installation,
the installer creates two backups and stores them in C:FreeDOS as
BOOT.MBR and BOOT.BSS. The MBR is created by FDISK when it is told to
update the boot code. The second is created by the SYS command. You
should be able to use FDISK to restore the MBR.
> There is an excellent
free DOS utility called MBRTOOL. It is not open source and has some
other distribution restrictions. But, it is free and can be legally
distributed as-is. Do to those restrictions it cannot be included with
the FreeDOS release. But, you can grab a mirrored copy from my website
at https://fd.lod.bz/redist/disk/MBRtool/ [4] v1.x is much smaller
than
v2.x. But, both work really well. It is a great tool to have laying
around for emergencies.
> :-)
> Jerome
> Thank you for your interest,
I will try to be more careful when I install freedos next time
>
>>
andrea
>>
>> Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 70 hai 70 GB in 4G, minuti
illimitati e 100 SMS a soli 7,99EUR al mese 

Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse /O

2022-01-21 Thread Björn Morell

The  /O switch makes cutmouse detect scroll wheel.

Den 2022-01-21 kl. 16:59, skrev Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user:
Most mice operate in a "staged" manner; that is, upon power-up even 
the most sophisticated mouse emulates a basic two button affair, until 
software jumps through a series of hoops to elevate its capabilities 
by sending a series of magic sequences of commands. The problem is 
that most applications only go as far as elevating the mouse to three 
button operation (if that - some perform no "elevation" at all, and 
leave you stuck with the most basic mouse mode) and never even attempt 
to activate wheel mode. Regardless of mode, however, the PS/2 
interrupt (at least for PS/2 mice) fires the same way.


This is done because an interface to the enhanced features of advanced 
mice was never standardized, so manufacturers made do with existing 
commands, but simply gave special significance to certain sequences of 
them which would not normally occur in typical application usage. One 
such example is setting the mouse acceleration with a specific series 
of values instead of the usual procedure of directly setting the 
desired acceleration value directly and leaving it at that.



On Friday, January 21st, 2022 at 10:43 AM, Travis Siegel 
tsie...@softcon.com wrote:


I believe the problem with the scroll wheel is that it doesn't
generate

an interrupt, so if the mouse driver doesn't specifically look for the

scrool wheel, there's no way for the computer or operating system to

know that it is being used. I had a similar problem under windows

several years ago, and the solution was to turn off one of the
settings

in the dos prompt configuration. That also allowed right clicking
within

the dos prompt, (not just on the dos application, so you could select

paste, copy and such), but actually have the right click be passed to

the dos application. That particular configuration item has since

stopped working as it used to. But, on the other hand, it's really not

necessary anymore, since a right click does the proper thing now.
I have

no idea if there's an equivalent option for dos mouse drivers, but
I do

know if the driver doesn't support scroll wheels, then your mouse
won't

respond to the wheel, no matter how much you move it or click it.

Perhaps there's a command line parameter to activate the scroll
wheel on

your particular driver. I've never used the cute mouse driver, so
can't

say if it does have such a parameter or not.

On 1/21/2022 7:25 AM, Björn Morell wrote:

Hi,

The progs I found which can use scroll wheel

4Dos; Help,Select and History

Syschk

MPXplay

I have tried wheelk butit does not make any difference in any
program

I tried,

I really would love for it to work in File Wizard.

Have any of you found other programs or ways there scroll
mouse works ?

Bear

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[Freedos-user] Cutemouse /O

2022-01-21 Thread Björn Morell

Hi,

The progs I found which can use scroll wheel

4Dos; Help,Select and History

Syschk

MPXplay

I have tried wheelk butit does not make any difference in any program I 
tried,


I really would love for it to work in File Wizard.

Have any of you found other programs or ways there scroll mouse works ?

Bear




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[Freedos-user] DN /2, File Wizard 1.35 etc.

2022-01-13 Thread Björn Morell


(New try without attached BMP)

Hi I am a new here.

I am testing what can be done on a IBM Value Point M# 6482 100DX4 whith 
3c509 and SB16-


 Have among other OSs Freedos 1.3 RC5 and am testing file managers, 
allways used Norton Commander but now my favorit is FW (File Wizard) DN2 
would probably been cause of scroll wheel handling but I have problems 
with DN2, first on command line it dos not take aliases as it dos not 
use 4dos which is my COMSPEC, second when trying to extract zip file I 
get Jemmex: exception 0D


"Dos Navigator Open Source Project

Dos/32A warning (9002): PICs have been relocated to INT D8h, INT 70h

Dos Navigator /2 OpenSource 2.14 beta/D32 Based on DN by RIT Labs


PKUNZIP (R) FAST! Extract Utility Version 2.50 03-01-1999

Copr. 1989-1999 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. Registered version

PKUNZIP Reg U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.

 80486 CPU detected

 XMS version 3.00 detected.


Jemmx: excepton 0D occured at CS:EIP=00D9:DC28, ERRC=

SS:ESP=2FF9:CC86 EBP=CCB8 EFL=00033006 CR0=8011 CR2=

EAX=0031 EBX= ECX= EDX=0005 ESI=BBA2 
EDI=0005


DS=2FF9 ES=CCB8 GS=ECD3 [CS:IP]=67 A0 31 00 67 B0 31 00"


Any suggestions ? thankfull for advice.

*Bear*
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