Hi Karen,

Try to find a copy of Powerquest Drive Image or Powerquest Partition Magic 
(which also has the function to backup drives). I have used Powerquest Drive 
Image for years.

Paragon Software have DOS versions of their software: Hard Disk Manager, 
Partition Manager, Disk Backup - all have the ability to clone drives or backup 
a whole drive to a backup file that you can use to restore the drive.

Media Tools Unlimited is also a DOS tool with the option to clone failing 
drives.
http://www.atl-datarecovery.com/data-recovery-products/media-tools-professional/




cheers

Bob Dyster

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Lewellen [mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net]
Sent: 17 August 2011 14:13
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?

Hi,
its okay. let me be more clear.
I *only* use dos, it is the *only* os to which I have access for this purpose.
  because I do a great deal of work from this machine, years worth of data, 
audio  production projects and the like I desire a method to back up both of my 
dos drives safely that preserves the data.  not just files, entire drives.  In 
this case, although they are not full this means two 20 gig drives.  Yes I 
realize 3 gig is not large any more, but I am not sure the largest drive 
capacitor for ms dos 7.1 which I run.  I am guessing indeed getting a very 
large external drive and creating partitions to represent my backup drive 
storage space.

I will hunt for Norton ghost, I have a copy of the last dos <that I knew
of> edition of norton utilities, and disk doctor is sensational.
booting another os would not give me a place to put the files, nor a regular 
way to upgrade the backup I create.
You were helpful, you told me of program that may do the trick, and in Norton  
which I really like in general.
Thanks for answering my question, its the first reply I have gotten.
Karen

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Rugxulo wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Karen Lewellen
> <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>
>> A question mainly for those who use dos  alone and purely on your
>> machines. Given the size of hard rives, using trusty pkzip to create
>> a set of backup discs  is well not possible.
>
> I forget, what are the limits for the .ZIP format, 65000 files? You
> could just use multiple archives (or a different format). But yeah,
> .ZIP isn't really meant for backups (is it???).
>
>> The nice thing about functional usb drivers is of course that one can
>> attach an external drive for this, and I guess? still use pkzip for the 
>> purpose?
>
> Presumably some (most?) BIOSes will emulate a USB hard drive for you
> anyways, if you plug it in before bootup.
>
>> I understand one can make an image too in dos.
>
> Probably, yes, though I've never personally tried.
>
>> After having a major hard drive scare today though, and with my use
>> of a dsl modem to a network having a a touch worried about security
>> too, I am asking how you do large backup work yourself now? say 3 gig or so?
>
> 3 GB isn't exactly "large" anymore. They (e.g. Dell) already advertize
> 3 TB disks for like $119US or whatever. 3 GB should be easy (in
> theory).
>
> I don't really understand the question (and of course am the worst
> person to ask). Are you trying to backup the entire DOS partition (3
> GB) to network or just to external drive or all of the above or ... ?
>
> Symantec (Norton) Ghost allegedly used to have a DOS version. Not sure
> if the latest still has it, even in an "/old/" subdir. That always
> sounded like the best way to do it, and CWS always seems to swear by
> it.
>
> Otherwise you're probably going to be told, "Boot a Linux live CD, use
> their tools". Even dd could probably be used, but I wouldn't recommend
> that except in a pinch.
>
> Personally, I'd probably just burn the files to DVD-RW from within a
> "modern" OS, esp. if you "only" need to backup 3 GB.
>
> (Sorry if this isn't as helpful as I'd like.)
>
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