Re: [Freedos-user] C programming guides
Jim, thanks for this guide. Is there any major differences between FreeDOS and MSDOS under the hood. I did notice differences in DosBOX as this has the SVGA drivers built in so you can use high definition modes upto 1024x768 in 256 colours iirc. -Ed EdzUp On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, 16:10 Linvel Risner via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Jim, I deeply appreciate you directing me to those guides, I've bookmarked > them for after work. > > Yes, I very much would order something off of Lulu. Let me know when you > have it back up, and I'll buy it. > > I've always found literature more helpful than videos, but I think both is > a happy place to be. > > Thank you for your help, and have a wonderful day. > > Linvel > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:24 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> Starting a new thread for this topic: >> >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 7:46 AM Linvel Risner via Freedos-user >> wrote: >> [..] >> > I'm trying to research written programming guides, although maybe I >> > should just watch the Jim Hall video sets. >> > >> >> >> I also wrote a series of articles to support the videos, which might >> interest you: >> >> https://www.freedos.org/books/cprogramming/ >> >> I've been planning to migrate the FreeDOS Wiki to new hosting for a >> long time, and Goal #2 after that is to move the "FreeDOS Books" >> content (including 'Writing FreeDOS Programs in C') into the wiki. So >> eventually, the programming series will be in the wiki. >> >> I also worked with folks to edit the C programming articles into a >> "version 2.0" for a printed book, which was available on Lulu.com for >> a while. Let me know if you are interested in that and I'll see if I >> can reactivate the item on Lulu. >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Date check
Hi, I think a more suitable way would be to check for the default date (1st Jan 1980 iirc) and if it is that date request a new date :) -Ed EdzUp On Tue, 30 Jan 2024, 12:00 Jürgen Wondzinski via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently facing some users which seem to have a bad BIOS battery and > therefor aren't using the current date. > Those users aren't even noticing that wrong date on their printed invoices > of that day... > > Is there a simple way to check from Autoexec/FDAUTO for the year of the > date, and if lower than 2024 prompt for a correct setting? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What DOS programs represent the 1980s and early 90s?
I remember GW-Basic being in one of the first IBM XT machines on rom. Doom originally was released on MSDOS :) -Ed On Mon, 1 Jan 2024, 07:30 Rugxulo via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 10:34 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > I'm thinking about doing a video that shows how to do real work on DOS. > > I sometimes see comments on YouTube with people asking "could you really > do *work* with DOS?" > > And the answer is of course you can, that happened every day. > > > > So I'm collecting a list of things you'd do in the 80s and 90s with DOS > to do work. > > Sure, I'll put a game it two in there, but I'm focusing on getting work > done. > > > > What programs or types of programs would you like to see? > > If you insist on a game, I suggest something ASCII-based like a > roguelike, maybe UMoria? > > * > http://ftp.lanet.lv/ftp/mirror/x2ftp/msdos/programming/gamesrc/mor55src.zip > > (Although Doom did just turn 30, and its source code release in late > 1997 got a very quick DOS port with DJGPP.) > > While I'm the last person to suggest "UNIX is the answer to life, the > universe, and everything!", they did have some useful tools that had > DOS ports. Sed and AWK come to mind. > > * http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/pc/garbo/pc/unix/sed15x.zip (HHsed, compiled > by Turbo C, circa 1991) > * > http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel/stmsdos9709/disk2/DISC2/GNU/GNUISH/MAWK122X.ZIP > (dual DOS + OS/2, circa 1996) > > Text editors were also good, e.g. DJGPP's GNU Emacs or RHIDE or (real > mode) TDE: > > * > http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel/simtel9703/disk1/DISC2/DJGPP/V2GNU/00_INDEX.TXT > * http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel/simtel9703/disk1/DISC2/DJGPP/V2APPS/ > * http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/pc/garbo/pc/goldies/tde40.zip (circa 1994) > > Another cool hex editor / viewer / assembler that everyone loved was HIEW: > * http://ftp.lanet.lv/ftp/mirror/x2ftp/msdos/programming/utils/hiew44.zip > (but I only remember 6.x or such) > > Simtel also had NASM 0.97, which I used to write a really simple > utility (public domain) and uploaded back in 1999. > > * http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel/simtel0101/simtel/asmutl/nasm097.zip > > (A86/D86 was also very good for shareware, last updated in 2000.) > > In summary: Simtel, Garbo, x2ftp, DJGPP > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What DOS programs represent the 1980s and early 90s?
Hi, I remember using Turbo Pascal and Turbo C back in the day (still use it now), also Lotus 123 and Dbase 3 :) Ah the memories :) Still use Turbo C++ 3 as it's output is faster than open watcom C's compiled code. -Ed EdzUp On Mon, 25 Dec 2023, 04:34 Jim Hall via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I'm thinking about doing a video that shows how to do real work on DOS. I > sometimes see comments on YouTube with people asking "could you really do > *work* with DOS?" And the answer is *of course you can, that happened > every day.* > > So I'm collecting a list of things you'd do in the 80s and 90s with DOS to > do work. Sure, I'll put a game it two in there, but I'm focusing on getting > work done. > > What programs or types of programs would you like to see? > > __ > > **For myself:* > *I've done some videos about DOS apps, but nothing like "here's how I did > everyday work." When I think back to my 1980s and 1990s (especially the > early 90s) I think of my time at university as a physics undergrad. So > that's a spreadsheet and a word processor for sure. Probably make a simple > chart then include that chart in a "lab report" document (or at least leave > room in the document to print it when I print on a dot matrix printer). > Probably a dialup terminal to talk to the uni committee lab? File manager. > And a compiler to write my own tools.* > > *The only difference is for the video I'll try to highlight FreeDOS distro > tools as much as possible, like Doszip for the file manager. * > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Epson dot matrix printer emulator?
I'm sure you could wrap those system calls in a executable or batch file to make the process more friendly :) -Ed EdzUp On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, 04:23 Jim Hall via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > That looks super interesting, and I think that fits my need - thanks. I'll > have to give this a try. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 11:33 AM Ben Collver via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> I wrote a post about how to do this on FreeDOS. It converts Epson >> printer data to image or PDF. DOSBox-X has similar Epson printer emulation >> built in, and you can install FreeDOS on that. >> >> Basically, the process goes like this: >> >> * Run prn2file to capture the printer data to a file. >> * Print from a DOS application as desired. >> * Run prn2file again to close the captured file. >> * Run escparse to convert the captured file to PDF. >> >> Details: >> >> >> https://gopher.tildeverse.org/tilde.pink/1/~bencollver/log/2022-06-15-print-quest/ >> >> -Ben >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Mode - My Two Cente
DOS can have. GUI like Linux with things like Windows 3.x, or even the Windows 95/98 were on top of a DOS system. On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, 03:26 tsiegel--- via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Only one correction. > > Windows and MacOSX are certainly graphical by default, though both have > text terminals very similar to the dos prompt. > > On the other hand, Linux, bsd, and other unix versions are also text > interfaces by default. If you don't install a windows manager (such as > gnome), then there is no graphical interface on linux. > > In that regard, it's very similar to dos. > > Text by default, but graphical by choice (just like running windows) > > Mac OSX is different, because it's configured by default to run a GUI, > which a basic linux system out of the box doesn't do unless it's configured > differently by it's distributor (ubuntu, debian, and so on.) > > > On 8/18/2023 1:51 AM, Norby Droid via Freedos-user wrote: > > I think there may be a bit of confusion we need to let new DOS users aware > of, and that is DOS is a "Text-Mode" system and not graphical like Windows, > Linux, MacOS, etc. > > DOS by nature is only text (although graphics is possible) > > Maybe make a distinction between "Text Resolution" and "Graphic/Screen > Resolution" > > DOS when booted is 80 characters with 25 lines using an 8x16 pixel font. > This could be called a text resolution of 640x400 (not 640x480 which is > actually 30 lines of 80 characters). > > You can change the number of lines and the number of characters per line > as well as the width and height of the font (like 8x32 or 9x16) which will > give ya more room or less depending on your choices as well as change the > look of the text, but this is still ALL text not graphics. > > Also of note is that although ya can be making changes, DOS has the > tendency to revert back to its default state of 25x80 8x16 native font when > he screen gets cleared or when exiting different software. > > This is my two cents about DOS Mode. Just remember DOS is Text (by > default) not Graphics. > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing > listFreedos-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
Weirdly enough the cludge I posted doesn't work on newest virtual box and freedoms for some reason. It does work on dosbox 0.74 (newest one). Maybe the rendering has changed somewhere :/ -Ed EdzUp On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, 12:21 Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > On 8/6/23 23:34, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: > >> DOS is using *text *mode, you just can't select a*graphics *mode and > expect to get text output in that mode. > > > > BIOS text output functions still work in most graphic modes, hence > having a DOS shell running in graphic mode is nothing unusual. Of course > problems may arise for text applications that make assumptions about the > terminal size or that write directly to VRAM without re-setting a proper > text mode. > > Generally even with text support by the BIOS in graphics mode, they do not > work well for the command line prompt. > > Often, there is a lack of text cursor, no scroll support or just very slow > rendering. > > > > >> And btw, 80x25 character text mode in fact is technically a 640x480 > "VGA mode" > > > > It's 720x400. > > Yep. > > 9x16 VGA font, 720x400. However, that 9th bit is just a little bit odd > (puns intended). > > 8x16 VGA font 640x400. > > It’s been a while. But if I recall correctly, I think there were some VGA > tricks that could be done to get 480 raster lines in text mode. Kind of > like mode X. But, I don’t recall if anything that actually did that for > text mode. For some reason, I keep thinking about having an 80x30 text mode > available. But, that could just be 80x28 (8x14 EGA font loaded on VGA > hardware). > > There were a lot of such “tricks” that could be done with real VGA > hardware. Stuff like smooth scrolling in text mode. All part of the VGA > specs. Few of which are supported by Virtual Machines like VirtualBox. > > :-) > > Jerome > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
I was testing in virtualbox. On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 22:17 zerofive--- via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Were you testing it on a Virtual Machine or on a real hardware? > > > *Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2023 at 9:13 AM > *From:* "EdzUp via Freedos-user" > *To:* "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Cc:* "EdzUp" > *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution? > That is weird, here I get a dos prompt and can use DOS in the new > resolution :/ > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:38 PM zerofive--- via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> Hello! Just tested it. >> It changes the resolution, but now I just don't see anything. I tried >> doing Ctrl+C exiting it but to no avail :( >> Any reason why could this happen? >> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 07, 2023 at 9:26 AM >> *From:* "EdzUp via Freedos-user" >> *To:* "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." < >> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> >> *Cc:* "EdzUp" >> *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution? >> Try this as an example http://www.edzup.co.uk/images/EVGAMODE.zip >> >> Usage: EVGAMODE [mode] >> >> where mode is either 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768. If you use CLS it will >> return to the previous resolution as the mode is just a temporary change :). >> >> -Ed >> EdzUp >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:22 PM EdzUp wrote: >> >>> Technically it would put the screen into a VGA/SVGA resolutions so text >>> output would be in that resolution till you used CLS when it would return >>> back to the original resolution. >>> >>> There is also high Res text mode. >>> >>> -Ed >>> EdzUp >>> >>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 15:38 Ralf Quint via Freedos-user, < >>> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/6/2023 5:39 AM, EdzUp via Freedos-user wrote: >>>> > Hi all, I could cobble together a Command line app to chuck the system >>>> > into VGA/SVGA resolutions :) >>>> > >>>> > -Ed >>>> > EdzUp >>>> >>>> And what would this going to be accomplishing? >>>> >>>> >>>> Ralf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Freedos-user mailing list >>>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>> >>> ___ Freedos-user mailing >> list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > ___ Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
That is weird, here I get a dos prompt and can use DOS in the new resolution :/ On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:38 PM zerofive--- via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hello! Just tested it. > It changes the resolution, but now I just don't see anything. I tried > doing Ctrl+C exiting it but to no avail :( > Any reason why could this happen? > > > *Sent:* Monday, August 07, 2023 at 9:26 AM > *From:* "EdzUp via Freedos-user" > *To:* "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Cc:* "EdzUp" > *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution? > Try this as an example http://www.edzup.co.uk/images/EVGAMODE.zip > > Usage: EVGAMODE [mode] > > where mode is either 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768. If you use CLS it will > return to the previous resolution as the mode is just a temporary change :). > > -Ed > EdzUp > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:22 PM EdzUp wrote: > >> Technically it would put the screen into a VGA/SVGA resolutions so text >> output would be in that resolution till you used CLS when it would return >> back to the original resolution. >> >> There is also high Res text mode. >> >> -Ed >> EdzUp >> >> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 15:38 Ralf Quint via Freedos-user, < >> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >>> On 8/6/2023 5:39 AM, EdzUp via Freedos-user wrote: >>> > Hi all, I could cobble together a Command line app to chuck the system >>> > into VGA/SVGA resolutions :) >>> > >>> > -Ed >>> > EdzUp >>> >>> And what would this going to be accomplishing? >>> >>> >>> Ralf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> ___ Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
Try this as an example http://www.edzup.co.uk/images/EVGAMODE.zip Usage: EVGAMODE [mode] where mode is either 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768. If you use CLS it will return to the previous resolution as the mode is just a temporary change :). -Ed EdzUp On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:22 PM EdzUp wrote: > Technically it would put the screen into a VGA/SVGA resolutions so text > output would be in that resolution till you used CLS when it would return > back to the original resolution. > > There is also high Res text mode. > > -Ed > EdzUp > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 15:38 Ralf Quint via Freedos-user, < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> On 8/6/2023 5:39 AM, EdzUp via Freedos-user wrote: >> > Hi all, I could cobble together a Command line app to chuck the system >> > into VGA/SVGA resolutions :) >> > >> > -Ed >> > EdzUp >> >> And what would this going to be accomplishing? >> >> >> Ralf >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
Technically it would put the screen into a VGA/SVGA resolutions so text output would be in that resolution till you used CLS when it would return back to the original resolution. There is also high Res text mode. -Ed EdzUp On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 15:38 Ralf Quint via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On 8/6/2023 5:39 AM, EdzUp via Freedos-user wrote: > > Hi all, I could cobble together a Command line app to chuck the system > > into VGA/SVGA resolutions :) > > > > -Ed > > EdzUp > > And what would this going to be accomplishing? > > > Ralf > > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
Hi all, I could cobble together a Command line app to chuck the system into VGA/SVGA resolutions :) -Ed EdzUp On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 12:09 Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I would use MODE CON. After all, you want to reconfigure the console, and > that is what MODE CON is for. > > Aitor > > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 02:10, zerofive--- via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> This question may been asked a million times but I just can't figure it >> out, and googling it gives no results (except telling me that I need to use >> `mode` and some parameters but this just wouldn't give me what I am trying >> to achieve) >> But I found out that `NANSI.SYS` contains a paramter which (I think) >> allows me to set at least 640x480 resolution. I also included it >> (nansi.sys) in FDCONFIG.SYS with parameters `/t18` but it doesnt seem to >> work. Any idea on what could be the issue or I need to do it the other way? >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility
Hi, To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any barriers to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this seems like a reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there. -Ed On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 22:58 Vacek Nules, wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm Vacek Nules, a software developer from Hungary. I’ve also posted this > message to the *devel* mailing list, but after accidentally sending it to > the list owner they’ve referred me to the *user* list, hence I repost it > here. > I’m the author of Unicode proposal L2/23-060, which concerns the addition > of a "Ft" character representing the Hungarian forint to Unicode, in a > similar vein to CP437's peseta sign. > Although the initial opinion was supporting, acceptance of this proposal > has been stalled by some dissenting members of the Unicode Technical > Committee despite this character having been supported on many different > (mostly historic and Hungarian) computer systems, including FreeDOS, which > has a Ft sign at 0x9F in code page 57781 (Hungarian), which is currently > unmappable to Unicode because of this character missing. > I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible endorsements to get > the UTC to accept the symbol, which is also needed for porting other DOS > software from Hungary (some still in productive non-hobby use, e.g. > point-of-sale systems). > > Thanks, > Vacek > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
