Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a FreeDOS bootable CD
Hi Enbor: One day, I wrote up a rather detailed set of instructions for doing this and customizing it. The big difference is that I use a floppy disk image to boot - it seems to work in more computers than the hard disk image, Anyway, you can look at http://k1ea.com/hints/Creating_a_Bootable_DOS_CD_V%201.5.pdf if you are curious. If you try it, let me know how it works out. This procedure creates the bootable CD from Windows. It may not work on Vista without a floppy disk drive. Mark Bailey Eric Auer wrote: Hi Enbor, Hi, is there an easy way to make a custom FreeDOS bootable CD? Actually it is not hard :-). You just copy all CD contents to a directory on harddisk, then edit the contents, and run: mkisofs -R -D -V FreeDOS 1.0b -o /tmp/fdbasecd-remastered.iso -b \ ./isolinux/isolinux.bin -c ./isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot \ -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table ./ In of course you would adjust the filenames for your system :-). I used ./ as the directory with the contents in the example. The isolinux directory contains the boot menu and a small disk image which is compressed with gzip. In the 1.0 case, it is a 360k one. You can use mtools to edit the diskimage, or you can mount the image. I think mkisofs is also available for Windows, and I hope you will find a nice diskette image editing tool for Windows as well. There will be at least a port of mtools somewhere in the djgpp or cygwin or mingw ports collection, I guess :-). Eric - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a FreeDOS bootable CD
Hi Eric: Sorry, I misread it. That is my method as well - use ISOLINUX. VFD (Virtual Floppy Driver) is a good, non-Vista, method of editing floppy disk images. It mounts the image file as a lettered floppy drive and you can copy files, do drag and drop, or whatever. Executing the SYS command is the only challenge - you pretty much need a pre-made floppy disk image to get the boot sector. 73, Mark Eric Auer wrote: Hi Mark, actually no FreeDOS distro has used harddisk images yet. The mkisofs command shown below does not use any image at all. Instead, it uses no emul boot to load isolinux, and this then loads a compressed diskette image into a memdisk ramdisk and boots it. Compared to using a classic diskette image boot, you can write temp files to the memdisk. It should be equally compatible as your method, and you are right that harddisk images would be less compatible. One day, I wrote up a rather detailed set of instructions for doing this and customizing it. The big difference is that I use a floppy disk image to boot - it seems to work in more computers than the hard disk image, Anyway, you can look at http://k1ea.com/hints/Creating_a_Bootable_DOS_CD_V%201.5.pdf mkisofs -R -D -V FreeDOS 1.0b -o /tmp/fdbasecd-remastered.iso -b \ ./isolinux/isolinux.bin -c ./isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot \ -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table ./ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a cd which can boot from the cdrom with freedos and ghost
If you want to create a custom ISO file which can be burned to CD and booted, you can see http://k1ea.com/hints/Creating_a_Bootable_DOS_CD_V%201.5.pdf Mark 勇顺张 wrote: hi,everyone I'am a noviciate for freedos,I have downloaded the fdbasews.iso from Freedos Project,at first i think this can load freedos OS with only cd and memory. but how can i make a iso file what can load freedos os not need any operation after I put the cd to the cdrom. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] About the VMWARE suggestion.
Giorgos wrote: DONT USE MICROSOFT'S VIRTUAL PC. Go to http://www.vmware.com and switch ASAP. A suggestion is that dosemu, which is free, might be better at supporting freedos than even vmware. Virtual PC is an inferior product compared to vmware. You can use an evaluation copy of workstation and then use player for free to run the virtual machine you created with workstation indefinitely. Windows 98SE, has Dos 7 underneath which is the last real version of MS-DOS, works very well in vmware-player and vmware-workstation. If you are interested in free software, WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU TRUSTING MICROSOFT CONTROLLED PRODUCTS TO TEST IT. Microsoft is a monopoly, Microsoft wants everyone to need Windows, need I say more? -- Michael C. Robinson Hi Michael! :-) Since you are more experienced than me in emulation, I have a question for you. (I have FreeDOS installed at my HD, I don't know much for emulators). Which version of VMWARE do you recomend? Seems like there is a VMWARE server available for free (free registration required). (Only support is $ware, but there are user forums available also). There is also a beta page, for all products, I don't know details. * So, do you have tested (or will you?) FreeDOS at the free server edition? Is it better or worse (memory management and performance) than player only edition? BTW, I show at VMWARE site many OS distributions for downloading. Is there a FreeDOS one? Thanks!!! Giorgos. :-) I've had pretty good luck with bochs: http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ It at least boots FreeDOS (and MSDOS) fine and will manage to do a SYS to a simulated hard disk. It's a bit clunky to configure, but may be worth a look. And, it's open source (and free as in beer!). Mark Bailey - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a FreeDOS Bootable CD
Good day, Basudeb: It is easy to create a FreeDOS bootable CD from Windows. See http://k1ea.com/hints/Creating_a_Bootable_DOS_CD_V%201.5.pdf This uses the same technique (isolinux) as the FreeDOS installation CD and has instructions for FreeDOS and MSDOS. Hope this helps. Mark Bailey basudeb gupta wrote: Hi all, I am a new user of FreeDOS trying to port my MSDOS 6.2 based application to FreeDOS. We need to make a FreedOS Bootable CD with the required drivers. Now the CD I get downloaded from the site has options only to install on hard disk or boot from CD without any drivers. Now how do I get a proper bootable FreeDOS CD with drivers? I am sure this has been done over and over many times already. Or is it not possible? Is it a limitation of FreeDOS? Please help. Thanks Basudeb - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connect to internet through Router
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] one thing which you do have to load before running arachne is a packet driver for your network card. some drivers are already in our distro. please write which network card you use - you can use pcisleep L to find out - and please reply via the list :-). I'm using a network card with Realtek chipset. Thanks. Guillermo Martínez Jiménez It is also possible to wrap an NDIS2 driver and make it look like a packet driver if your chipset doesn't have a packet driver. Many newer chipsets don't. :-( A realtek chipset isn't quite enough information. What is the output of pcisleep L? Mark - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Adding MS-DOS to a WindowsXP Computer
Good day, everyone: I have updated my procedure and bootable CD for installing FreeDOS (or MSDOS) on almost any WindowsXP computer. You can install FreeDOS (or MSDOS) beside WindowsXP without damaging the WindowsXP installation - using completely free open-source tools. I use this capability to run Amateur Radio contest logging programs which are DOS-based. I did the updated procedure and cd because the free tools to shrink the WindowsXP installation have new versions with more error checking. There are several changes to the procedure to hopefully make it easier to read and follow. There is a FREE CD which contains everything you need to install FreeDOS available for download at http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/ Add DOS to preinstalled Windows (see left side) The PDF file of the updated procedure is also available there or directly from http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/file/fdinst095.pdf (Thanks to Johnson Lam for providing the server space for this). The CDROM image is about 30 MiBytes. The procedure is less than 1 MiByte. I would appreciate feedback from anyone who uses the procedure so that I can improve it. All of my computers boot both WindowsXP and DOS! I can do this in under ten minutes - it will take you a bit longer the first time. Mark Bailey, KD4D - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Oops - Adding FREEDOS to a WindowsXP Computer!!! Sorry...
Hello everyone: Sorry about the TYPO. Of course, I meant adding FREEDOS to a WindowsXP computer, not MSDOS. (Though the procedure works for both). I apologize for the error. Mark Good day, everyone: I have updated my procedure and bootable CD for installing FreeDOS (or MSDOS) on almost any WindowsXP computer. You can install FreeDOS (or MSDOS) beside WindowsXP without damaging the WindowsXP installation - using completely free open-source tools. I use this capability to run Amateur Radio contest logging programs which are DOS-based. I did the updated procedure and cd because the free tools to shrink the WindowsXP installation have new versions with more error checking. There are several changes to the procedure to hopefully make it easier to read and follow. There is a FREE CD which contains everything you need to install FreeDOS available for download at http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/ Add DOS to preinstalled Windows (see left side) The PDF file of the updated procedure is also available there or directly from http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/file/fdinst095.pdf (Thanks to Johnson Lam for providing the server space for this). The CDROM image is about 30 MiBytes. The procedure is less than 1 MiByte. I would appreciate feedback from anyone who uses the procedure so that I can improve it. All of my computers boot both WindowsXP and DOS! I can do this in under ten minutes - it will take you a bit longer the first time. Mark Bailey, KD4D - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] use smb with freedos or nfs
Hi Samuel: There is a hardware solution the gaming folks use to connect a wired computer to a wireless network without requiring any wireless drivers. These aren't cheap, but they work. As an example, the Netgear ME101: http://www.trustedreviews.com/networking/review/2003/12/10/Netgear-ME101-Wireless-Bridge/p1 A wireless bridge is a device that can connect a standard Ethernet device to a wireless network seamlessly. One such device is the Netgear ME101 and I have to say that it works like an absolute dream. Or the Linksys: http://reviews.cnet.com/Linksys_WET54G_Wireless_G_Ethernet_bridge/4505-3265_7-30460920.html Note that you will probably need a Windows box to CONFIGURE the bridge, but once configured, you can plug in a standard ethernet cable from your DOS computer to this and it will connect to a wireless network. DOS thinks the connection is just the standard wired connection. I have successfully used one of these (a Belkin no longer in production) to put a DOS box on a wireless LAN. Hope this helps. Mark Samuel Skanberg wrote: Thanks for the fast replies all of you, really appreciate it! However, as Eric said, configuring the laptop with freedos would probably hard compared to installing windows 95 or whatever on it. According to the wiki (the howto regarding networking) there are no wifi drivers avaible to dos. Since I'm unable to have network cables to the laptop I must use wifi. I did tried Linux but I had huge problem with my sound card, otherwise that would be my first choice. Thanks for the help! - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install FreeDOS on most WindowsXP Computers - updated ISO and Procedure
Good day, everyone: I have updated my procedure and bootable CD for installing FreeDOS on almost any WindowsXP computer. You can install FreeDOS beside WindowsXP without damaging the WindowsXP installation. The key programs are GParted, for shrinking the WindowsXP disk partition and creating a partition for FreeDOS, and GAG, for selecting whether to run WindowsXP or FreeDOS. These are included on the free CD. There is also a very stripped down version of FreeDOS which can be used to install right from the CD. The download links will be valid for three weeks. The ISO image is available at http://www.mytempdir.com/1086884 and contains a PDF file of the procedure. If you would like the PDF procedure file, you can get it from http://www.mytempdir.com/1086915 I would appreciate feedback from anyone who uses the procedure so that I can improve it. All of my computers boot both WindowsXP and DOS! I can do this in under ten minutes - it will take you a bit longer the first time. Mark Bailey - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install FreeDOS on most WindowsXP Computers - updated ISO and Procedure
Not at all. mytempdir is quite slow. If you can provide another site, I can upload them tomorrow. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:48:00 -0500, you wrote: Hi, I have updated my procedure and bootable CD for installing FreeDOS on almost any WindowsXP computer. You can install FreeDOS beside WindowsXP without damaging the WindowsXP installation. Great! The download links will be valid for three weeks. The ISO image is available at http://www.mytempdir.com/1086884 and contains a PDF file of the procedure. If you would like the PDF procedure file, you can get it from http://www.mytempdir.com/1086915 Do you mind I mirror them? I would appreciate feedback from anyone who uses the procedure so that I can improve it. All of my computers boot both WindowsXP and DOS! I can do this in under ten minutes - it will take you a bit longer the first time. Thanks for your effort. I'll try to report if there's any problem, so far it didn't have any problem for me. Rgds, Johnson. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] installing freedos on secondary drive
Actually, it's easy to boot FreeDOS from the second disk (any primary partition on any disk) using any of a number of boot loaders. GAG, for instance: gag.sourceforge.net. What isn't quite so easy is to force FreeDOS to recognize the desired partition as C: when booted from CD. Your partition can be made bootable with the following DOS command: SYS D: executed after booting the CD and executing the installer. The desired FreeDOS files can then be copied to the partition manually. That's how I install FreeDOS to partitions other than what the CD thinks is C:. Mark Bailey tom ehlert wrote: Hello Daniel, you can't boot FreeDOS from the second disk AFAIK it can only boot from a primary partition on the first disk Tom Thursday, October 26, 2006, 9:27:09 PM, you wrote: Dear all, I checked the faqs but could not find solution to my problem. I have two harddisks: an 80 gb harrdisk (drive c) with win xp and linux and a free 10 gb harddisk (drive d). I would like to install freedos onto this latter harddisk. I make the partition on drive d restart my computer and leave the cd in the cd-rom to be able to install freedos. As next it asks whether I want to format drive c. I do not want to format it because I have more partitions on it with important data. I want to have it on drive d but so far I could not install freedos onto the drive I wanted. Could anyone please help me? I would appreciate any kind of help. Many thanks Daniel _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards, Tom Ehlert +49-241-79886 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] [Fwd: Re: installing freedos on secondary drive]
Oops...I meant EXITING the installer. EXECUTING the installer will start writing stuff to C:. Exit the installer and use SYS D: from the DOS prompt (A: IIRC when booted from the CD). Sorry about that. Mark Original Message Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] installing freedos on secondary drive Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:43:02 -0400 [...] Your partition can be made bootable with the following DOS command: SYS D: executed after booting the CD and ***executing*** the installer. The desired FreeDOS files can then be copied to the partition manually. That's how I install FreeDOS to partitions other than what the CD thinks is C:. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
HI Michael: Once the USB stick is bootable, you can copy the DOS files needed to the USB stick manually from Windows (or Linux). If you have FreeDOS installed to a hard disk partition somewhere, you could copy the files from there. If I wanted the full FreeDOS installation, I'd install it to a hard disk partition first and then copy all of the files on the partition to the USB stick under Windows (or Linux). Mark Michael McStarfighter wrote: How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there comes an Invalid Opcode and then it stops. So what to do ? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Norbert Remmel wrote: The only thing I don't know is how to create a floppy image file under linux or a bootable iso-file with floppy emulation because I'm not working with linux based systems. Norbert. Use mkisofs. See http://www.itg.uiuc.edu/help/mkisofs/mkisofs.htm (The same utility is available on Windows also). I have found booting with ISOLINUX more reliable than direct floppy disk emulation for DOS CD's. mkisofs -o output.iso \ -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \ root-of-iso-tree use memdisk, and create the appropriate isolinux.cfg file. To boot the floppy disk image directly, use something like mkisofs -b boot.img -c boot.cat -o cd.iso boot.img \ other contents of CD This is the same command I use under Windows. The easiest way I've found to manipulate floppy disk images under windows (for free) is the VFD program that mounts the floppy disk image as a floppy disk drive (with drive letter) and lets you use Windows to manipulate it. http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html To do this under Linux, use the loop device. See http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html or http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html Mark - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Bernd Blaauw wrote: Art Fore schreef: [...] Furthermore there's some tool from HP to configure flash USB disks to make them bootable. [...] Bernd Hi Art and Bernd: I have found this utility to work very well under WindowsXP to make bootable DOS USB sticks. If you have access to a Windows computer, it would be worth a try. http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/20306.html If your goal is just to run this one flash utility, you may want to use a bootable DOS CD with the CD driver installed and just put the files on the CD. This could be a modified fdbasecd.iso file which already has a CDROM driver. Mark - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art: I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting from a USB stick. One is a superfloppy model where the entire USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated basically like a hard disk. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other. Linux can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk). # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do: mkdosfs -I /dev/sda # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready formatted that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive? Have you used the attrib command to see if the files are hidden for some reason? Good luck! Let me know if either of these suggestions help. Mark Art Fore wrote: That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret? Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art: Well, if the ls command from Linux sees the DOS files on the USB stick (that are booting) on either /dev/sdd or /dev/sdd1, then doing a cp to the appropriate device, where Linux should now see the DOS files and the ones you added, should put the files you want on a large USB disk. When you boot the USB stick, does it boot as A: or C:? It should boot to that prompt and a DIR command should show the DOS files (at least kernel.sys and command.com). Does it? Are you using the new FreeDOS 1.0 release? There was a nasty bug with booting USB sticks on machines without floppy disk drives in some earlier FreeDOS versions. Mark Art Fore wrote: I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other than a CDROM with freedos. If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do that? If I could, I would be there. Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A: If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the first harddrive and cannot change harddrives. So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the CEROM. (I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos cdrom} Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Hi Art: I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting from a USB stick. One is a superfloppy model where the entire USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated basically like a hard disk. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other. Linux can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk). # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do: mkdosfs -I /dev/sda # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready formatted that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive? Have you used the attrib command to see if the files are hidden for some reason? Good luck! Let me know if either of these suggestions help. Mark Art Fore wrote: That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret? Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more
Re: [Freedos-user] Packet Driver For Arachne Browser
tomleem wrote: Hi Lester, I wouldn't try to load a shim over an NDIS layer when all i need is to /get the right/ packet-driver. :-B I wouldn't either, but I have at least two computers with Ethernet chipsets that don't have packet drivers and it does work... Mark - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Volunteer wanted to install FreeDOS 1.0 on a WindowsXP computer
Good day, everyone: Since FreeDOS1.0 has been released, I've been working on my detailed procedure to add FreeDOS to a WindowsXP computer. FreeDOS can be pretty easily installed on a WindowsXP computer without having to re-install WindowsXP. I am looking for a volunteer or two to help with the new version of the procedure. It is easier now due to improvements in the GParted program. The whole process takes an hour or two and results in a computer that can run FreeDOS or WindowsXP. There is an older version of the procedure on http://odin.fdos.org/dual/ (see fdinst091.pdf) if you would like to get an idea what is involved. The new procedure is a bit easier. The CD to do this is about a 35 MiByte download. Let me know if you are willing to test this and help me refine the procedure. Thanks. Mark Bailey - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 Installer - User-specified partition?
Hi Blair: DOS does not have to be booted from whatever it identifies as C: when booted from a CD or floppy disk. Using a boot loader (like GAG, GRUB, LILO, etc.) DOS can be booted from any primary partition on any disk. DOS will identify its boot partition as C: but it can be any partition. It does not have to be whatever partition DOS happens to identify as C: when booted from a floppy or CD. In fact, this is usually D: (when booted from a floppy or CD on a disk with a rescue partition). It would be helpful to be able to use the FreeDOS installer on a disk with a rescue partition without modifying the rescue partition. Mark Blair Campbell wrote: DOS can only boot from C:, so if you don't want it to see a FAT32 drive, the only way to ignore it is to use the FAT16-only kernel flavour. On 7/15/06, Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone: Will the installer version that will be in FreeDOS 1.0 allow installing FreeDOS in a user-specified partition? The Beta9SR1 installer wrote some files to C:, which is sometimes a rescue partition that I don't want to modify on new computers, even if the installation was to D:. Thanks very much for all of your hard work on FreeDOS. I look forward eagerly to Version 1.0! Mark Bailey - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Updated procedure and CD to dual boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS
Good day, all: I have updated my procedure for adding FreeDOS to an existing WindowsXP installation. The procedure allows you to shrink a WindowsXP NTFS disk partition slightly, create a FAT32 partition for FreeDOS in the freed up space, and install FreeDOS. When you turn on a computer with this modification, a menu comes up allowing you to select whether to boot WindowsXP or FreeDOS. It is not necessary to re-install WindowsXP to do this. There is a bootable CD image that comes with the procedure that contains GParted (a graphical program to manipulate partitions), a bootloader called GAG, and a simple FreeDOS boot image. This is a BETA upgrade to the existing procedure and ISO image on http://odin.fdos.org/dual/, fdinst091.pdf and fdinst091.iso. If anyone is willing to BETA test this, please send me an e-mail and I will send you the word document and a download link for the CD image. I would like to make it as easy as possible for people to install FreeDOS on brand new, WindowsXP computers! All of my computers boot WindowsXP and various flavors of DOS. Thanks very much in advance! Mark Bailey - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 Installer - User-specified partition?
Hello everyone: Will the installer version that will be in FreeDOS 1.0 allow installing FreeDOS in a user-specified partition? The Beta9SR1 installer wrote some files to C:, which is sometimes a rescue partition that I don't want to modify on new computers, even if the installation was to D:. Thanks very much for all of your hard work on FreeDOS. I look forward eagerly to Version 1.0! Mark Bailey - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Any PCMCIA Parallel Port Adapters known to work with FreeDOS?
Hello, all: Has anyone successfully used any of the PCMCIA parallel port adapters with the provided DOS drivers under FreeDOS? I would like to if any are known to work with FreeDOS. Mark Bailey Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Complete Novice Needs Help
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 2-Июл-2006 10:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Long) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: EL I would like to use Free Dos on a new lap top (Windows EL XL) for when the time comes that old computer may die. EL But I have absolutely no idea how to do this. Is a EL comprehensive set of guidance instructions available EL that would tell an computer-dumb old fellow like me EL how to do this? 1. You should have Windows (XP - not XL) installed on FAT partition or you should have separate FAT partition, if Windows installed on partitions with NTFS file system. DOS supports only FAT file system and not recognizes NTFS partition (unless _after_ DOS booting you run some driver, like NTFSDOS, which allows to read files from NTFS partition). EL Basically I would like to have the EL option to boot up either DOS or Windows XL when I EL start up the computer There are (at least) three ways to dual boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS. The new WindowsXP machines I have purchased (or gotten through work) have WindowsXP preinstalled on an NTFS partition. It is possible to shrink the NTFS partition, create a new FAT32 partition, install FreeDOS on the new partition, and use a boot manager to select WindowsXP or FreeDOS. This doesn't require re-installing WindowsXP and FreeDOS is in its own separate partition. For fairly complete directions, see http://odin.fdos.org/dual/, fdinst091.pdf. If you have any questions, send me an e-mail. This is what I do to all of my machines. If WindowsXP is installed on a FAT32 partition, you can use the FreeDOS installer to put FreeDOS on the same partition as WindowsXP and use the Windows boot manager (I think) to select it or Windows. If you don't have WindowsXP on a FAT32 partition, you would have to convert the partition somehow or reinstall WindowsXP. Again, the new machines I have run into have WindowsXP on an NTFS partition. The approved Microsoft method is basically a third way. They suggest repartitioning the disk (destroying the WindowsXP installation), installing FreeDOS, then re-installing WindowsXP. See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/multiboot.mspx To use this method: If you have already installed Windows, and you have only one partition, you must reformat and partition your hard drive before you can multiboot. How can we help you get your dual boot machine set up? Mark Bailey Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Complete Novice Needs Help
Hi Ed: You can take a look at http://odin.fdos.org/dual/, fdinst091.pdf for detailed directions on how to do this using Linux tools to repartition a WindowsXP disk and add a DOS boot option. This can be done for FreeDOS or MSDOS. Let me know if you have any questions about this. Mark Bailey Edward Long wrote: I currently use a very old computer system, that has Windows 98 and DOS emulator, as a way to use DOS to drive a table-top milling machine. I would like to use Free Dos on a new lap top (Windows XL) for when the time comes that old computer may die. But I have absolutely no idea how to do this. Is a comprehensive set of guidance instructions available that would tell an computer-dumb old fellow like me how to do this? Basically I would like to have the option to boot up either DOS or Windows XL when I start up the computer This new lap top has a dual-processor in it. So is it possible to simultaneously run DOS with one of those processors and Windows with the other? Speed is not an issue for me. I am earnest and do want to learn. Not trying to be funny, only sincere - I am not good at understanding fancy computer talk. My thanks to anyone of you who has the infomration and patience to deal with me. Ed Long Edward R. Long, Jr. 140 New Hope and Crimora Road Waynesboro, VA 22980 540-363-0104 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] fdos install to f:
Hi Anders: There are two ways I know of to do this. One is to boot a floppy disk or hard disk image using ISOLINUX/SYSLINUX which probably isn't what you want. The second is to install a FreeDOS boot sector directly to the USB stick. There is a utility from HP that may work for you. It will install a FreeDOS boot sector to a USB device and may work for your flash memory. WindowsXP does not make this easy. DOwnload SP27213.EXE from ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27001-27500 You will have to run the installer and point the utility to a directory or device containing the FreeDOS kernel.sys and command.com files. I used a floppy disk image...this can just be a Windows directory. I believe the utility has a FreeDOS boot sector built-in to it. See also http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=Installing_FreeDOS/316 The download link for the HP utility doesn't work from this page. The same tool can also install MSDOS. Let us know if you have any questions. A quick posting to the e-mail list about what you had to do and how it worked might help someone else. Mark Bailey Anders Jansson wrote: Hello, I want to install FreeDos to a 128 Mb compactFlash card on F:, for use in another computer (a PC104 system). I have only access to the flash in winXP. Regards, Anders ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Which are the best kernel and command.com for modern systems?
Hello, all: I've been trying to follow the e-mail updates, but have become rather confused! :-) What kernel and command.com would be the best bet for working on most modern computers? I know that I need the patch for computers without a floppy disk! Should I just grab the development kernel from http://fdos.org/kernel/? Thanks very much. Mark Bailey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! jp_freedos / gcfl.net wrote: ... Jim Hall wrote: I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Clinton is not President anymore. I think it is obvious that this signature line was not about Clinton but about a certain cowboy. [...] But of course all of this is not DOS-related. Sorry for being off-topic. Eric ENOUGH! Please stop now! NO MORE! :-) Mark ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Boot FreeDOS from CF
Hello Alan: It is difficult to load the boot sector to hard disk drives under WindowsXP. There is an HP utility which may allow you to partition and format your compact flash device and install FreeDOS. Look for SP27213.exe at ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27001-27500. There is another version, SP27608, which I haven't been able to find except here: http://h50178.www5.hp.com/support/PB137UA/more_info_local_17550.html which does the same thing. These will DESTROY any data on your USB stick, write a partition table, create a FAT or FAT32 partition, and install FreeDOS boot files and a FreeDOS boot sector, from WindowsXP. This utility MAY work for you. I've never tried a compact flash card with it, but it works pretty well with USB sticks in some cases. Also, you will need a computer with a BIOS that will boot from your card as well. Another option is to use SYSLINUX, memdisk, and a floppy disk image, but that has problems, including that you may not be able to read and write the memory stick after booting. Good luck. Mark Bailey alan boey wrote: Command? I have a system with only a HDD and a 256MB CF card, plus USB ports. I had tried everything to boot this system, from USB CD-ROM with bootable Win2k CD, to USB flash drive, but nothing works. Even plugging in the HDD to another PC and install doesn't work (after replugging back to the system, Windows fails to load, sigh...) I'm planning to install FreeDOS into the CF from my Win XP Pro laptop via PCMCIA card reader, and use it to boot up this system so that i can install Win2K on the HDD. I have been browsing through the net for few days but has yet to find a way. Can anyone please help? --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Boot To Hard Drive
Good day, Lester: Have you tried the development kernel.sys file from http://fdos.org/kernel/? Especially if your computer does not have a floppy disk drive, this may fix a Bad or missing command interpreter error that occurs during the boot process. I am assuming you did a sys c: c: and then rebooted to get this error. Let us know if the development kernel helps. Mark Lester Vedrox wrote: I have installed the full version from fdbootcd.iso but FreeDOS will only boot to CD and not to hard drive. Both system files are in place: c:\kernel.sys c:\command.com An attempt to setup the boot sector (c:\ sys c: c:) results in the following error: Bad or missing command interpreter. Enter the full shell command line: command.com /p /e:256 Lester --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive
Hi Michael: I will have Steve try removing himem.exe/emm386.exe from config.sys and running naked.. He is not very knowledgeable about DOS and I don't have a SCSI computer, so this may be a slow process. He says he is seeing the following: - Booting FreeDOS with kernel version 1.1.35 gives me the following 8 line error message at the bottom of the screen when the boot process fails: Illegal Instruction occurred CS=14C2 IP= SS=14C2 SP=01DC DS= ES=0AEC EAX=8826 EBX=00760011 ECX= EDX=01F6 ESI= EDI= EBP=01F8 Opcodes @CS:IP 00 FE A2 9D 01 89 EC 5D Aborting program Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256 Enter the full shell command line: At that prompt I tried entering a:command.com and a:\command.com and got the Bad or missing Command Interpreter / Enter the full shell command line error message. Ditto for d:command.com and d:\command.com. Entering c:command.com or c:\command.com produces the 8 lines noted above. - So, it looks like C: is being recognized... THanks for your help! Mark Michael Devore wrote: At 09:04 PM 5/2/2006 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Bad or missing Command Interpreter Enter the full shell command line: command.com /P /E:256 The development kernel fixed the Error in the DJ mechanism! but still doesn't find the shell. Any suggestions? Is there a problem with SCSI drives? Does it successfully boot naked without memory managers loaded? --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive
Good day, all: Steve is trying to use my dual-boot procedure on a computer with a SCSI hard drive. The repartitioning went fine, as did the installation of FreeDOS. The installation was done with the SYS command booted from CD. When he first tried booting from the hard drive, he got this error: Error in the DJ mechanism! Error in the DJ mechanism! IO error: cylinder 1023 Bad or missing Command Interpreter Enter the full shell command line: command.com /P /E:256 The development kernel fixed the Error in the DJ mechanism! but still doesn't find the shell. Any suggestions? Is there a problem with SCSI drives? Thanks. Mark Bailey --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual boot document
Hi Johnson: It's probably time to update the screen snaps to the new version of gparted. The new version supposedly allows setting the LBA flag (partition type change) from within gparted instead of having to use the Linux fdisk, which will simplify the procedure if it works correctly. The new live CD is available from gparted.sourceforge.net and contains the xwd program. I normally do the screen shots to a USB stick (/dev/sda1). I can't remember offhand whether that gets automatically mounted or to where...I'll check when I get a chance. Plugging in the stick and entering mount in a terminal window will show where it is mounted. It may be /mnt/usbstick or /media/usbstick or something like that. :-) Thanks for your help. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, got lot of work. Now I return to improve the document, but I don't have the screen capture program, can you send me? And please teach me how to save the captured screen on the root directory. Thanks. Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Installed on CD
Good morning, sir: It is easy to create a CD which boots from a floppy disk image file, using the same basic technique that Linux uses to boot its kernels. The key programs to do it this way are mkisofs, to create the bootable CD file system, and isolinux to boot the Floppy Disk image. I wrote up a pretty detailed procedure on doing this which is available at http://k1ea.com/hints/Creating_a_Bootable_DOS_CD_V%201.5.pdf I would welcome any comments. Setting up the first one is a bit tricky, but it gets easier. This is written to create the CD from Windows. Mark N. Sivin wrote: This is a simpleminded question, but I have spent a couple of hours trying to puzzle an answer out of the materials on the FreeDOS site--where it may be hidden among the jargon. I have downloaded the ISO, but I don't want to install FreeDOS on my hard disk. What I want to do is install it on a bootable CD so that I can try its capabilities out before deciding what to do with it. For instance, Linux offers several bootable CD images that one can use to run any computer under the OS without affecting the computer's installation in any way. How can I do that with FreeDOS? I'd be grateful for a jargon-free answer (I know DOS, by the way.) Thanks, --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Instructions for making USB key bootable. . .
No, fdisk /mbr writes an MBR (and master boot record) to the disk. The easiest way to format as superfloppy (remove the MBR) is to boot a linux Live CD and do mkdosfs -I /dev/sda NOT mkdosfs /dev/sda1 (This assumes your version of Linux will recognize the device as /dev/sda and will reformat the stick, destroying any data on it). This will remove the MBR and format the entire stick as a superfloppy. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys To install an MBR, he suggests first clearing the first 512 bytes and then using a debian program called install-mbr: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Note the use of /dev/sda1. This means the first PARTITION on the device and implies that it has a partition table (and MBR). FDISK /MBR is tricky...make darned sure you are using the correct hard disk! Mark TechFan wrote: So, can you direct a fdisk /mbr to remove the mbr on a usb key to get back to the floppy emulation? - Original Message - *From:* Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:55:54 AM *Subject:* [Freedos-user] Instructions for making USB key bootable. . . Hi! 14-Мар-2006 00:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: MD My own issue is that I can create a stick which either boots as a big MD floppy (A: via USB-ZIP) or a hard drive (C: via USB-HDD), but I can't seem MD to switch back and forth between the two types after I'm done. I've not MD had time to investigate what's necessary to change to go between them. As I understand, this is not possible: diskettes do not contain MBR, disks do. And these schemes are not interchangeable. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Instructions for making USB key bootable. . .
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 15-Мар-2006 08:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TechFan) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: T So, can you direct a fdisk /mbr to remove the mbr on a usb key to get T back to the floppy emulation? As I understand, this is not possible: diskettes do not contain MBR, disks do. And these schemes are not interchangeable. fdisk/mbr just (re)writes MBR booting code, this neither changes nor deletes anything other (partitions information). And FDISK do not deal with non-MBR media by definition. A USB stick can be set up either with or without an MBR. Windows (AFAIK) transparently deals with either type. The two computers I have that will boot a USB stick BOTH insist on it having an MBR to boot from it, and both automatically detect the USB stick. You can use Linux commands to switch back and forth. There is an HP utility which will write an MBR to a SuperFloppy formatted memory stick (SP27213.exe) under Windows. The Linux command mkdosfs /dev/sda (or whatever your device is) will create a superfloppy formatted USB stick. You can change which way a my USB sticks formatted with these commands. Mark --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Do FreeDOS have any problems with Laptop ?
I have successfully run FreeDOS on several laptops without any problems. Is it installed in a PRIMARY partition (formatted FAT16 or FAT32 LBA)? Is this the same configuration as the desktop (GRUB/Ubuntu)? What does your GRUB.CONF look like? Something like title FreeDOS root (hd0,2) chainloader +1 ? How did you install FreeDOS? Are you sure the SYS command executed correctly on your partition? Mark CK Raju wrote: Anyone could help me here. I am planning to teach 8086 programming on FreeDOS. Got it successfully installed in my PC at home. However Laptop (ACER Travelmate Celeron) is refusing to bring up the OS in a bootable form. I have a bootloader GRUB and have Ubuntu in the other partition. Some help or advice please. CK Raju --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] To: Mark Bailey. Dual boot WinXP/DOS works great!
Hi Johnson: Great! Yes, FAT32 partitions need to be defragmented first. I thought that was in there. I just checked...I guess if you are not running XP, you don't have XP's disk defragmenter! :-) NTFS partitions (default for XP) do NOT require defragmentation. Thanks for the note about /dev/sda. Was this a SCSI hard disk? The default for an IDE hard drive is /dev/hda. Glad this worked. Now, that wasn't TOO hard, was it? :-) I've asked the gparted guys to add the feature to set the partition ID, which would eliminate the fdisk steps. I hope they will get around to it. BTW, Linux fdisk is very powerful, stable, and quite useful! :-) It is much more powerful than the DOS versions. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: Hi Mark, Thank you very much for your work!! I've got some time yesterday and successfully dual booted my office PC. Meet a problem when accessing dev/hda, and I suddenly found that my office PC have no ATA hard disk, the device should be dev/sda, you can add a note to your document. Also Gparted will report error when the hard disk fragmented, I got a free WinNT/2K/XP defrag tool from the following website: http://www.whitneyfamily.org/Hacks/default.aspx?item=Defrag Too bad DOS defrag still not working under FAT32. Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] To: Mark Bailey. Dual boot WinXP/DOS works great!
Hi Johnson: Actually, the fdisk steps are not really necessary for FreeDOS, since the FreeDOS kernel will use LBA to access that partition even if the type is wrong, but it is necessary for MS-DOS and does eliminate the WARNING: and Please use fdisk messages... Mark Mark Bailey wrote: Hi Johnson: Great! Yes, FAT32 partitions need to be defragmented first. I thought that was in there. I just checked...I guess if you are not running XP, you don't have XP's disk defragmenter! :-) NTFS partitions (default for XP) do NOT require defragmentation. Thanks for the note about /dev/sda. Was this a SCSI hard disk? The default for an IDE hard drive is /dev/hda. Glad this worked. Now, that wasn't TOO hard, was it? :-) I've asked the gparted guys to add the feature to set the partition ID, which would eliminate the fdisk steps. I hope they will get around to it. BTW, Linux fdisk is very powerful, stable, and quite useful! :-) It is much more powerful than the DOS versions. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: Hi Mark, Thank you very much for your work!! I've got some time yesterday and successfully dual booted my office PC. Meet a problem when accessing dev/hda, and I suddenly found that my office PC have no ATA hard disk, the device should be dev/sda, you can add a note to your document. Also Gparted will report error when the hard disk fragmented, I got a free WinNT/2K/XP defrag tool from the following website: http://www.whitneyfamily.org/Hacks/default.aspx?item=Defrag Too bad DOS defrag still not working under FAT32. Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] To: Mark Bailey. Dual boot WinXP/DOS works great!
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 2-Мар-2006 09:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bailey) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: MB NTFS partitions (default for XP) do NOT require MB defragmentation. NTFS DO require defragmentaion. Hi Arkady: ntfsresize will handle fragmented NTFS partitions... In order to resize them, you don't need to defragment them first. So, you don't need to defragment an NTFS partition before installing FreeDOS, which is what I meant! :-) See http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html Mark --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any volunteers interested in testing USB stick booting?
Hi Michael: I received a sealed envelope from you yesterday. It contained a card with a note about a white cover but no USB stick! :-( Did the stick fall out or something? Jeremy is making progress! If I receive a stick, after I test it do you want me to put an MBR on it? Very easy to change the formats from MBR to superfloppy in Linux. I don't know how to do it easily in Windows or DOS. Mark Michael Devore wrote: Last night I picked up a few off-brand 128M USB sticks and tried formatting them to boot FreeDOS on my system. As a pleasant surprise, the latest FORMAT 0.91v and SYS from 2/20/2006 32-bit kernel formatted all three brands to FreeDOS-bootable sticks -- although each received a runtime FORMAT message GDP default BPB read error 0F which didn't appear to affect anything. Much different experience than my last mucking around with boot images and disk patches to get a bootable stick; good job everyone involved in upgrading the FreeDOS capabilities there. Since USB booting of FreeDOS remains an issue for several people, I'd like to send the sticks to any volunteer who has failures booting a modern FreeDOS-format USB stick, or doesn't have a USB stick available, to test how/if it works. I'll cover the postage to send it, you simply have to e-mail me your address. You can mail it back after you are done or, if shipping costs are substantial, you can keep it, although obviously I'd prefer to get the stick back to pass on to other testers. Simply drop me an e-mail. Details on the offer follow... The requirements are that you have a 386+ (probably a Pentium+) machine with a USB port and a BIOS that supports booting from a USB stick. On my test system that means selecting USB-ZIP, other systems may have a boot selection called USB mass storage, and more recent BIOS setups may be able to directly identify the USB stick as a boot source while it's plugged in. The stick will most likely come up as drive A: when it boots. What I want to know is whether the boot works, what you had to specify in your BIOS to get it to boot, what type of machine you have, and anything else which seems notable. The sticks are formatted FAT16 and have no CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT, although I have included the latest versions of HIMEM.EXE and EMM386.EXE if you have time to test booting with HIMEM and EMM386 active (if it boots OK without them loaded and not with, that's important news to know). If you already have a good booting stick, I may be interested in your machine's information for comparison purposes. For future tests I may check FAT32 format, plus see what might be possible, if anything, to get a stick booting under other USB selections, e.g. USB-FDD, USB-CD ROM, and USB-HD here, and/or move to a different default drive from A:. But for now I want to establish we have happy boots for basic USB stick setup. If you have any questions, drop me an e-mail or post here as appropriate. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Linux Tools and FreeDOS Dual Boot LiveCD - New Procedure
Kenneth J. Davis wrote: ... The image is about 32.5MB. Does anyone want to try this image? The directions I have available use the same programs and are quite close. You could install FreeDOS using this in two reboots and burning only one CD. I can send you a very detailed PDF procedure. ... I have uploaded fdinst09.iso, an ISO image combining the GParted 0.2 Live CD (with fdisk added), odin1440.img from odin 2005, and the GAG boot loader image. You select at the BOOT prompt which you want to run. This will allow installing FreeDOS in three reboots (sorry I said two earlier: 1. Boot LiveCD to shrink NTFS partition, create new one and add the type. 2. Boot GAG to install the new boot loader 3. Boot ODIN to allow you to SYS the appropriate drive and copy the necessary FreeDOS files). The procedure on it has not yet been updated to reflect this and still refers to the Mutagenix LiveCD and burning your own GAG and FreeDOS images. I have not had a chance to test yet, but for those wanting it sooner rather than later, I'm hosting it for Mark on my fdos site. Download as http://odin.fdos.org/dual/fdinst09.iso Jeremy Hello, all: I have updated the procedure to reflect the new CD. If you want a copy for now, (it's a pdf file) send me an e-mail. I will send Jeremy a copy and he may post the update. Please try this and provide comments and feedback. I would like to make this as easy as possible for anyone to do. Mark --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS and USB
Hi Michael: FreeDOS does not have any native NTFS access at all. (Neither does MS-DOS). There is a free (for personal use) driver called NTFS4DOS available from www.datapol.de that MAY work for your application: http://www.datapol-technologies.com/dpe/freeware/index.html It seems to have problems with very large NTFS disks and partitions and has some bugs. You can just run NTFS4DOS from the DOS command line and it will find and mount your NTFS partition(s). I'm not familiar with the NTFSDOS driver. Mark Michael McStarfighter wrote: Hi, is it possible to get r/w access to NTFS? I have the Winternals Admin Pack 5.0 which includes the NTFSDOS driver, but I don't know how to integrate it into FreeDOS. And ATM I can't find about native access to NTFS from FreeDOS. The same question I have about USB access. Thanks a lot. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
Hi Johnson: The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed and configured. Often, people immediately add software and spend a lot of time configuring it... I sure do. My experience suggests that people would rather use an old, dedicated machine than spend hours re-installing WindowsXP. I have NEVER reinstalled WindowsXP and I've dual booted at least a dozen machines. Using the Linux tools, you can shrink the WindowsXP partition IN PLACE, without affecting WindowsXP at all. (Well, WindowsXP does run chkdisk after you do this, but that's automatic. It runs exactly the same way.) I'm using a boot loader called GAG because it's the simplest to set up that I've found. Works great! Takes maybe 15 minutes to do everything (other than download and burn the Linux LiveCD that does this). Mark Johnson Lam wrote: I'm not smart, so I think the target of the dual boot should be: 1) Install FreeDOS FAT32, then install WinXP, add FreeDOS to WinXP loader (simple but I found sometimes WinXP refuse to write the boot sector if it's not MSDOS) 2) Make FAT32 partition somewhere in the WinXP installed hard disk, then use boot manager (WinXP boot loader or something like Robert Riebisch's bootmgr) Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
Hi Johnson: Johnson Lam wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500, you wrote: Hi Mark, ...Partition Magic discussion...deleted If it's 100% reliable, still worth to pay them, but it's not! Not if the free alternatives work and are just as easy to use... and they are! Grab a new WindowsXP machine and do this procedure...you will be very happy with the result. :-) [...] So, it is really worth trying to modify a Linux installer to automatically re-partition the disk correctly? If you CAN do this, why not? Every piece of software have it's own value of existence. True, but it would be a LOT of work for me since I'm not a Linux expert and I don't have time right now. :-( I'm not smart, so I think the target of the dual boot should be: 1) Install FreeDOS FAT32, then install WinXP, add FreeDOS to WinXP loader (simple but I found sometimes WinXP refuse to write the boot sector if it's not MSDOS) 2) Make FAT32 partition somewhere in the WinXP installed hard disk, then use boot manager (WinXP boot loader or something like Robert Riebisch's bootmgr) No, reloading WindowsXP is too much work and takes too much time. If we can get exactly the same result more easily, without doing that, it is better that way! Rgds, Johnson. Mark --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers
Hi: I'm using a graphical front-end to ntfsresize called GParted. Resizing the partition is just a few mouse clicks and does not affect the data in the partition at all. I had understood Johnson to want it automatic. What I'm doing is shrinking the ntfs partition, creating a brand new FAT32 partition, and installing a boot loader. No fooling with Microsoft's stuff at all, and NO installing WindowsXP. The new computers already have XP installed. Other than seeing a new disk device (the FAT32 partition), and running chkdsk once, WindowsXP really doesn't know this happened at all. Takes maybe 15 minutes after you've done it once! :-) Mark Schumacher, Gordon wrote: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500 # From: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] # To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net # Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed # # I was thinking a bit more about automating this. We # MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer # to automatically, under carefully defined conditions, # shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32 # partition. AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all. # Partition Magic just doesn't reliably work on NTFS # partitions as of 8.02 and XP Service Pack 2 (or # possibly, SP 1). And, Partition Magic is expensive # and has a restrictive license (use on one computer, # blah, blah, blah...). Why not use ntfsresize? One could see about trying to get *that* built under DJGPP... or have I just pretended to be 'Q' and said Simple, change the gravitational constant of the universe! :) # Judging from the response to Version 1.0, though, # only one FreeDOS user was even interested in dual # booting a new machine. It appears everyone else # has already figured out how to meet their # requirements. Most of the folks I know use # old, dedicated machines to run DOS. Well, I do this - in fact I'm triple-booting SuSE 10, XP, and FreeDOS - and I even have XP recognizing its own drive as C: (which is the sneaky part) but I personally found it to be easy, if slightly convoluted. 1) Boot off of the SuSE CD in rescue mode and create an ext3 boot partition as partition 1. 2) Reboot onto the Windows XP boot disk and create a FAT32 partition, being sure to leave space after the end of that partition for your Linux root and swap partitions. Do not let it continue the install past formatting the partition. 3) Reboot into SuSE rescue and delete the ext3 partition. 4) Reboot into the XP installer. Let XP install. Since there are no other partitions on the disk, it will identify the single partition as C:. 5) Install FreeDOS, onto the same FAT32 partition. FreeDOS will see that XP is installed, and instead of replacing the boot sector it will put the boot sector into a file named FREEDOS.BSS and add itself to the BOOT.INI file for the NT boot loader. 6) Install SuSE, recreating the boot partition as before. For bonus points, remove the FreeDOS entry from BOOT.INI and add it to GRUB's menu.lst, so that you have a single boot menu :) For a dual-boot XP/FreeDOS install, skip steps 1-3 and 6, and simply install XP first. You could I suppose install XP and FreeDOS to separate FAT32 partitions if you wanted, though I haven't done that. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
Hi Johnson: I was thinking a bit more about automating this. We MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer to automatically, under carefully defined conditions, shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32 partition. AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all. Partition Magic just doesn't reliably work on NTFS partitions as of 8.02 and XP Service Pack 2 (or possibly, SP 1). And, Partition Magic is expensive and has a restrictive license (use on one computer, blah, blah, blah...). Many of the Linux installers don't automate this, since computer setups vary so widely and so do the user requirements. And, the operations are quite dangerous. The last one I tried to use that automated this was dangerous and could destroy a disk if the user selected the wrong, cryptic, setup option. And, the FreeDOS SYS: command needs to be done under FreeDOS. We could, I suppose, create a multi-boot CD. Obviously, writing a batch file to automate the FreeDOS installation to a specific partition would be almost trivial, starting with ODIN. Creating an easy-to-use, up-to-date, ODIN floppy image that installs FreeDOS to a specified disk partition would be useful...I'd use it! :-) Judging from the response to Version 1.0, though, only one FreeDOS user was even interested in dual booting a new machine. It appears everyone else has already figured out how to meet their requirements. Most of the folks I know use old, dedicated machines to run DOS. So, it is really worth trying to modify a Linux installer to automatically re-partition the disk correctly? BTW, I've found a couple of people interested in doing this with MS-DOS, so they'll help iron out the disk partitioning description and installation of MS-DOS, anyway. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:41:12 -0500, you wrote: Hi Mark, I am working on the next version of a procedure to add FreeDOS to almost any WindowsXP computer in a dual-boot configuration and WITHOUT destroying the WindowsXP Great, on the Internet there're some guide to this, but all of them is instructions, without a package or program to do it for you automatically. I'm using open source Linux tools to shrink the WindowsXP NTFS partition. I would like a couple of volunteers to test the Version 2.0 Alpha procedure and provide suggestions and corrections. I wish I can catch up with you, in the coming month I have a 3 weeks trip. I'll prepare a spare hard disk and install XP. You should be comfortable with DOS commands and rebooting your computer. You do NOT need any Linux experience. Good. If you would like to dual-boot a new computer with FreeDOS, and want to help test this, please send me an e-mail and I'll send you the current draft of the procedure. After a few volunteers run through it, I'll get the updated procedure posted on the web somewhere. Did you have any plan to make a small utility to go through the procedure automatically? Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
Good day, all: I am working on the next version of a procedure to add FreeDOS to almost any WindowsXP computer in a dual-boot configuration and WITHOUT destroying the WindowsXP installation. When the computer boots, you can select either WindowsXP or FreeDOS. I'm using open source Linux tools to shrink the WindowsXP NTFS partition. I would like a couple of volunteers to test the Version 2.0 Alpha procedure and provide suggestions and corrections. You should be comfortable with DOS commands and rebooting your computer. You do NOT need any Linux experience. You will need a WindowsXP computer you would like to also have FreeDOS installed on, a backup of any critical data you have on that computer, a high-speed internet link, and a CD burner. A floppy disk drive will make this easier, but is not necessary. If you would like to dual-boot a new computer with FreeDOS, and want to help test this, please send me an e-mail and I'll send you the current draft of the procedure. After a few volunteers run through it, I'll get the updated procedure posted on the web somewhere. Thanks. Mark Bailey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
Hi Alan: When you do a dir on the CD or floppy disk (or an ls in Linux or using Windows Explorer), do you see a single file (fdbootcd.iso or freedos_beta9.dsk)? If so, then you created the floppy disk wrong or burned the CD wrong. To burn a bootable CD, if you are using WindowsXP, you can download the PowerToy to burn the cd: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm Make sure to get the correct version. Remember, you should NOT see the file fdbootcd.iso on the CD! To create a bootable floppy disk, you can use the Windows program RawWritewin: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm. It's pretty intuitive. You just give it the image file name and the destination floppy drive name. Are you using Windows or a different operating system to create the floppy/burn the CD? Mark ho kok foo wrote: hi, i have downloaded both fdbootcd.iso and frredos_beta9.dsk. How do i make bootable cd or disk from these files? tried copying freedos_beta9.dsk to Diskette and burning fdbootcd.iso to CD. Both not bootable. Where have i gone wrong? pls help. regards alan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
Hi Alan: Nero has an option to burn an ISO image directly to CD. I don't have Nero, but according to this page: http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html there is a Burn Image... under File. That's what you want to use. It wants the ISO file (fdbootcd.iso). Try that and you should get a bootable CD. Glad I could help! Mark ho kok foo wrote: hi Mark, Thank you very much for your advice. I am using win98Se and copied and burned to diskette and CD. The latter using Nero - copy and paste. Guess it is wrong. Yes both as you described contained the individual files. When burning CD using XP I normally use the XP's own burner. I will try as you described. Thanks again regards alan Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan: When you do a dir on the CD or floppy disk (or an ls in Linux or using Windows Explorer), do you see a single file (fdbootcd.iso or freedos_beta9.dsk)? If so, then you created the floppy disk wrong or burned the CD wrong. To burn a bootable CD, if you are using WindowsXP, you can download the PowerToy to burn the cd: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm Make sure to get the correct version. Remember, you should NOT see the file fdbootcd.iso on the CD! To create a bootable floppy disk, you can use the Windows program RawWritewin: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm. It's pretty intuitive. You just give it the image file name and the destination floppy drive name. Are you using Windows or a different operating system to create the floppy/burn the CD? Mark ho kok foo wrote: hi, i have downloaded both fdbootcd.iso and frredos_beta9.dsk. How do i make bootable cd or disk from these files? tried copying freedos_beta9.dsk to Diskette and burning fdbootcd.iso to CD. Both not bootable. Where have i gone wrong? pls help. regards alan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is there a useable, reasonably current, FDOS floppy image available?
Hi Bernd: Thanks. I checked odin.fdos.org, but didn't see this subdirectory! Mark Bernd Blaauw wrote: Mark Bailey schreef: Good day, all: Has anyone assembled a reasonably current FreeDOS boot floppy suitable for just running DOS? I have one, including the new emm386 and himem files, but I would like to point users interested in FreeDOS to an image file available on the web. 99% up to date: http://odin.fdos.org/odin2005/ with direct link: http://odin.fdos.org/odin2005/odin1440.img be aware it isn't finished yet, and 1.44MB floppy image is most up to date, others are older. Also I don't think we included a GPL document yet. Sources at www.freedos.org ofcourse. Menu isn't complex. Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.10 ISO CD image bootable
This appears to be a pirated copy of MS-DOS 7.1, probably taken from Windows98SE. The original web site, yginfo.net, disappeared some time ago. Chema wrote: FYI: MS-DOS 7.10 Installation CD === This is MS-DOS 7.10 Installation CD, which includes MS-DOS 7.10 Full Version and some Add-Ons. Please burn the CD ISO image (DOS71CD.ISO) to a CD-R/RW disc, or use it as an emulated CD disc in a virtual machine (such as VMWare and Virtual PC), then boot your system from this Installation CD in order to install MS-DOS 7.10. For more information, please come to: http://www.cn-dos.net/msdos71/ --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386
Hi Michael: Does this provide a means of easily identifying the affected machines? How do I check the Haunted HP Pavilion? :-) Mark Michael Devore wrote: At 12:42 PM 7/29/2005 -0500, I wrote: Ha! That's it. Some SCSI BIOS uses INT 4BH. It must be passing the register value that VDS interprets as a VDS function, which means AH = 81h. Hmm, let me look things over to see if there's a way to resolve the conflict by further determining the difference or if it's inherently incompatible. Okay, this looks like the smoking gun. Now to figure out a workaround: INT 4B - Common Access Method SCSI interface (draft revision 1.9) ES:DI - CAM Control Block (see #03229 at INT 4F/AX=8100h) InstallCheck: test for the string SCSI_CAM eight bytes past the INT 4Bh handler Notes: the CAM committee moved the interface to INT 4F after revision 1.9 to avoid conflicting with the IBM SCSI interface and the Virtual DMA specification the only driver to date reported to use the CAM interface on INT 4B instead of INT 4F is from Future Domain (which has drivers for CAM on either interrupt) INT 4F - Common Access Method SCSI interface rev 2.3 - SEND CCB TO XPT/SIM AX = 8100h ES:BX - CAM Control Block (CCB) (see #03229) Return: AH = status 00h successful 01h invalid CCB address (h:h) Note: the SCSI Interface Module (SIM) may complete the requested function --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] How to report a kernel bug?
Good morning: In all of my flailing around about MBR's, I do believe that I have found a kernel bug. The failure of the FreeDOS kernel to initialize with the incorrect MBR looks like a bug. It is impossible to use FDISK to correct the MBR when the kernel won't initialize. :-) (Yes, I can use a different operating system to fix it). How do I report the bug? I tried the bugzilla link from the freedos.org home page, but it won't let me create an account. The bug is that, with an apparently incorrect MBR, the development kernel refuses to boot. Thanks. Mark Bailey --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How to report a kernel bug?
My FreeDOS boot CD halts with an error with the development kernel. It is inconsistent booting with the Beta9SR1 CD. This needs a bit more research to see why it booted the first time. It may have been the difference between a restart and a cold boot. That, I believe, is a bug in both of those kernels. I have not tried all of the stable kernels you listed. Mark Bernd Blaauw wrote: Mark Bailey schreef: Good morning: In all of my flailing around about MBR's, I do believe that I have found a kernel bug. The failure of the FreeDOS kernel to initialize with the incorrect MBR looks like a bug. It is impossible to use FDISK to correct the MBR when the kernel won't initialize. :-) (Yes, I can use a different operating system to fix it). all that's needed is a simple FDISK /MBR ? a freedos bootdisk does boot, or also hangs on harddisk detection? How do I report the bug? I tried the bugzilla link from the freedos.org home page, but it won't let me create an account. The bug is that, with an apparently incorrect MBR, the development kernel refuses to boot. and stable kernel 2034, 2035 and 2035a? they do boot with this incorrect MBR? Bugzilla was accessible last night, but looks like Jim Hall disabled it again for a while. Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can FDISK destroy partitions using the examine partitions option?
Good day, all: The person who did this is very knowledgeable and believes that FDISK did, in fact, trash the partition table. I had this exact thing happen to me when running fdisk. FDISK displayed a bunch of garbage in response to a display partitions option and then the partition table was destroyed. This was some time ago. Since the computer was acting up before I did that, I cannot say for sure that FDISK caused the problem. I am going to run FDISK again on that laptop (an HP Pavillion) AFTER I back up the partition table! I will do that this evening and see if I can reproduce a problem. This was running FDISK WITHOUT an fdisk.ini file. Any ideas? Is there a safer DOS tool that just shows the partition table? I know the Linux ones, but not the DOS ones. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kenneth: No, I am not sure, of course. I had something similar happen to me once as well. Fortunately, gpart fixed that one...but it did happen after I ran FDISK. I don't believe he HAD a problem except that NTFS4DOS didn't recognize the XP partition. Are there any FreeDOS tools that just DISPLAY the partition information? How about save and restore it? I know some of the Linux tools, but not DOS. Thanks! Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, all: I just suggested that someone who was having trouble with NTFS4DOS not recognizing an NTFS partition run fdisk with the development kernel. I requested that he enable large disk support and use option [4], List Partition Information. This appears to have removed the partition information from the MBR. Are you sure fdisk did this and that wasn't his problem to begin with? or something else related to his problem caused the error? Anyone have any ideas about this? Is FDISK so dangerous that even using it to examine partition tables is a bad idea? Thanks. Mark Bailey I haven't looked at fdisk's code in a while, but from my usage, I have never seen it alter the MBR/partition table without issuing a command that involves such a change (ie option 4 never made any changes). And a brief reexamination of the code seems to confirm this (it has checks for changes so only writes if a change has occurred). Brian could tell you for sure (or anyone who wants to read the sources), but I feel pretty confident in saying that using (Free)Fdisk to examine the partition tables should not cause any harm -- but not a method I'd recommend (users can do some funny things), so a tool designed just to display the partition tables would be better. Jeremy --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can FDISK destroy partitions using the examine partitions option?
Hi: Newest EMM386. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:55:32 -0400, you wrote: Hi Mark, The person who did this is very knowledgeable and believes that FDISK did, in fact, trash the partition table. I had this exact thing happen to me when running fdisk. FDISK displayed a bunch of garbage in response to a display partitions option and then the partition table was destroyed. This was some time ago. I have seen this ONCE, and I have no way to reproduce it again. I always got errors and FDISK return to DOS, but after reboot it won't happen again for several days, no idea is hardware problem or software bug. Since the computer was acting up before I did that, I cannot say for sure that FDISK caused the problem. What's the driver you use? I got the HIMEM 3.00 + EMM386 (old one, can't remember the version) I am going to run FDISK again on that laptop (an HP Pavillion) AFTER I back up the partition table! I will do that this evening and see if I can reproduce a problem. This was running FDISK WITHOUT an fdisk.ini file. Any ideas? According to the documentation, when no .ini file, FDISK will use it's default parameter. Is there a safer DOS tool that just shows the partition table? I know the Linux ones, but not the DOS ones. Try AEFDISK.EXE, maybe there's free tools but I don't know ... http://www.fileboost.net/company/Daniel_Nagy.html Rgds, Johnson. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and EMM386 - the solution!
Good day, all: OK, I am AMAZED at Datapol's technical support. I sent them the boot floppy and received a patched version of NTFS4DOS and received the following e-mail: - I've played a little with FreeDOS and NOT using UMBPCI. I found that the extender we use in the standard package (DOS/32) doesn't fit together with EMM386 well. I changed the extender to CAUSEWAY and now I get 612KB lower memory free. Hope this helps [...] If you need the same hack for future versions you also und unbind DOS/32 from NTFS4DOS.exe and rebind it using CAUSEWAY. Both extenders are free available. - Works like a charm. Conventional Memory 636K 103K 533K Upper Memory 64K30K 34K And, this was with NTFS4DOS creating a RAM disk. :-) Thanks for all of your help (especially Eric Auer and Michael Devore! Mark Bailey --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386
Hi Michael: OK, I believe the application does use VGA graphics. :-( Will try DOS=HIGH only. Thanks! Too bad UMBPCI doesn't work on all the computers. :-( Mark Michael Devore wrote: At 08:23 AM 7/13/2005 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: OK. Development Kernel, Development command.com, Development SYS, new emm386/himem, NTFS4DOS 1.4. The INSTALLHIGH failed. Interestingly, a LOADHIGH failed with ALMOST the same error and a little more information: DOS/32A fatal (1001): DOS reported insufficient memory, additional 1KB needed! Something is still fragmenting your upper memory by eating little bits away in the middle of large chunks you need. I can't figure out what's doing it. You have enough upper memory, you just don't have enough all in one block. Alright, another suggestion: if your application doesn't use VGA graphics and you're up for a bit of unorthodox reclamation, try keeping the last test CONFIG.SYS and adding I=A000-AFFF to your EMM386 line as another option. That will give another 64K block to upper memory. If you can reclaim the VGA graphics area for upper memory with EMM386, post us another MEM /F /X report so we can see if it is getting fragmented, as well. Second suggestion: Take out the UMB part of DOS=HIGH,UMB and just have DOS=HIGH. If NTFS4DOS can use upper memory directly from EMM386 instead of through the DOS interface, it just might work. Not all applications and drivers can directly use UMBs that way, though, so I don't know if it will work. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386
Good morning, Michael, Eric, et al: The addition of NOEMS to the EMM386 startup in config.sys caused the following error when executing the INSTALLHIGH. DOS/32A fatal (1002): DOS reported insufficient memory It did eliminate the complaints about page frames and no suitable UMB memory block. The test computer is a Dell Inspiron D600 laptop, usually tied to a docking station and using a USB floppy drive or CD to boot FreeDOS. So far, NTFS4DOS INSTALLHIGH works with UMBPCI but not with EMM386. I have 213K of conventional memory free when running NTFS4DOS from the command line or using INSTALLHIGH with EMM386 and 550K of conventional memory free when using UMBPCI. In other words, entry 3 (without NOEMS) leaves insufficient conventional memory and entry 4 works as desired. config.sys for latest test: !LASTDRIVE=Z !BUFFERS=20 !FILES=40 !DOS=HIGH,UMB !DOSDATA=UMB !set dircmd=/ogn !MENUCOLOR=7,0 MENUDEFAULT=1,5 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS + HIMEM + EMM386 MENU 3 - Load NTFS4DOS with EMM386 MENU 4 - Load NTFS4DOS with UMBPCI SHELL=a:\command.com /p 1234?DEVICE=A:\FDOS\HIMEM.EXE 23?DEVICE=A:\FDOS\EMM386.EXE X=TEST MEMCHECK VDS NOEMS 4?DEVICE=a:\fdos\umbpci.sys 34?installhigh=a:\datapol\ntfs4dos.exe a:\command.com /k Without NOEMS, the INSTALLHIGH completes without error and NTFS4DOS is loaded, but it appears to be loaded into conventional memory. Using UMBPCI, it appears to be loaded into upper memory. Thanks again for all of your help. Mark --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] http://wiki.fdos.org/Installation/Winxp
Hi Flo: Thanks. This traditional technique requires reinstalling Windows. You can do it without reinstalling Windows at all by shrinking the WindowsXP NTFS partition in place. I wrote up a detailed procedure for this which is on fdos.org somewhere or you can look at www.k1ea.com/hints (Dual-boot Real DOS on Windows XP). This is nice because I can take a brand new WindowsXP computer and install FreeDOS on it in under 20 minutes without affecting the WindowsXP installation at all. If I understand this technique correctly, I would have to a complete reinstall of WindowsXP to use it. The procedure as written is a bit MSDOS centric. Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions. Mark Bailey Florian Xaver wrote: Hi! Just added a new section to the wiki! Bye, Flo -- Unofficial Dr-DOS page http://www.drdos.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Live FreeDOS CD with NTFS4DOS - Testers Needed!
Good day: I thought some on this list might be interested in testing ntfs4dos and FreeDOS as well. The announcement is for amateur radio logging software users, but the CD should be generally useful. I have permission from Datapol to redistribute NTFS4DOS, so this CD is legal. If you want the ISO image, please let me know. Mark Bailey Good day, all: Thanks to the kindness of Datapol gmbh in Germany and the power of FreeDOS, I am announcing the Alpha test version 1.0 of the DOS Contesting LiveCD. I need volunteers to test this and report back. Please let me know if you are willing to test this and I will send you an ISO image of the CD! NOTE: This CD may only be used on private computers and for private purposes. You may not use it on work computers or for work. This is due to the licensing for the private (free) version of NTFS4DOS! See www.datapol.de/dpe/freeware. This is a bootable CD containing FreeDOS. You can boot it on almost any modern computer and run DOS. The CD also contains the private version of NTFS4DOS from Datapol. This allows you to have read and write access to any NTFS hard disk partition from DOS. This means that you can walk up to a WindowsXP computer, boot this CD, and save a contest log file to the hard disk of the computer! The way I envision this being used for now is for the user to create a directory on the C:\ drive of the WindowsXP computer and install CT or TRLog in that directory. You can do this from WindowsXP! This makes things like updating cty.dat and master.dta/trmaster.dta files very easy. NOTE: I suggest making this a directory in the root of C:, such as C:\TR679 or C:\CT102008 or something. Then reboot the computer from the LiveCD. Look at the output from NTFS4DOS and get the drive letter for the NTFS partition (probably D:). Type Yes at the Datapol prompt. Then, at the dos prompt (A:), type D: (or whatever) and then cd tr679 or cd ct102008 or whatever. (Use a DOS directory name...up to eight letters and no spaces). Then, type TR or CT to run the logging program. This will save the log to the hard drive. Please let me know if you are willing to test this! I will mail you the 2MByte ISO file and, if you need them, directions for creating a bootable CD from the ISO file. Thanks again to Datapol and the FreeDOS community. 73, Mark, KD4D --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386
Hi Michael:
First, let me say thanks to you and Eric Auer and everyone
else for the amazing support I've gotten in my efforts to
learn and use FreeDOS. I've used many commercial operating
systems, and this level of support is better than I have
seen with any of them!
OK, here is the config.sys file I used with emm386. Note
that including NOEMS on the command line causes the
installhigh to FAIL with:
DOS/32A fatal (1002): DOS reported insufficient memory
I was able to write these files directly to my NTFS
WinXP disk while FreeDOS was running. I have also
enclosed the same things from UMBPCI.
Note that, as nearly as I can tell, the NTFS4DOS program
did not load into high memory using emm386.
EMM386 - config.sys
-
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!DOS=HIGH,UMB
!DOSDATA=UMB
echo NTFS4DOS included by permission from datapol gmbh, germany
echo NTFS4DOS and this CD may only be used on private computers
echo and for private uses
echo See www.datapol.de/dpd.
echo Mark Bailey, [EMAIL PROTECTED], July 12, 2005 - Alpha 1.0
SHELL=a:\command.com a:\ /p
DEVICE=A:\FDOS\HIMEM.EXE
DEVICE=a:\fdos\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds
DEVICE=a:\fdos\tdsk.exe 4096
installhigh=a:\datapol\ntfs4dos.exe a:\command.com a:\ /p
-
MEM /F
-
Segment Size Name Type
--- -- -
027112880 DOS system data
0273 192FILES data area
0280 2528HIMEM device driver
031f 3344EMM386 device driver
03f1 384TDSKdevice driver
040a 64DEVICE data area
040f 1904FILES data area
0487 2288LASTDRV data area
0517 2048STACKS data area
0597 48 NTFS4DOSdata area
059b 335104 NTFS4DOSprogram
576c65280 NTFS4DOSdata area
675d 64 NTFS4DOSdata area
6762 16 NTFS4DOSdata area
6764 32 free
6767 2992 COMMAND program
6823 80 free
6829 3312 CTMOUSE program
68f9 96 MEM environment
690048240 MEM program
74c8 166032 free
9d52 272 COMMAND environment
9d64 6576
Memory TypeTotal Used Free
Conventional 636K 427K 209K
Upper 0K 0K 0K
Reserved 388K 388K 0K
Extended (XMS)522,936K29,691K 493,245K
Total memory 523,960K30,506K 493,454K
Total under 1 MB 636K 427K 209K
Total Expanded (EMS) 32M (33,554,432 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS) 32M (33,538,048 bytes)
Largest executable program size 209K (214,288 bytes)
FreeDOS is resident in the high memory area.
-
MEM /X
-
Testing XMS memory ...
INT 2F AX=4309 supported
XMS version 3.00 XMS driver version3.11
HMA state existsA20 line stateenabled
Free XMS memory 505082880 bytes
Largest free XMS block505082880 bytes
Free handles 63
Block Handle Size Locks
--- ---
0 18028724481
1 1812 41943040
2 1822 15728641
3 1832 15728641
4 1842 31457281
5 1852 62914561
6 1862 125829121
7 18721054720
Upper memory not available
Memory TypeTotal Used Free
Conventional 636K 427K 209K
Upper 0K 0K 0K
Reserved 388K 388K 0K
Extended (XMS)522,936K29,691K 493,245K
Total memory 523,960K30,506K 493,454K
Total under 1 MB 636K 427K 209K
Total Expanded (EMS) 32M (33,554,432 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS) 32M (33,538,048 bytes)
Largest executable program size 209K (214,288 bytes)
FreeDOS is resident in the high memory area.
UMBPCI example:
config.sys
-
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!DOS=HIGH,UMB
!DOSDATA=UMB
echo NTFS4DOS included by permission from datapol gmbh, germany
echo NTFS4DOS and this CD may only be used on private computers
echo and for private uses
echo See www.datapol.de/dpd.
echo Mark Bailey, [EMAIL PROTECTED], July 12, 2005 - Alpha 1.0
SHELL=a:\command.com a:\ /p
DEVICE=A:\FDOS\HIMEM.EXE
DEVICE=a:\fdos\umbpci.sys
DEVICE=a:\fdos\tdsk.exe 4096
installhigh=a:\datapol\ntfs4dos.exe a:\command.com a:\ /p
-
MEM /F
-
Segment Size Name Type
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS kicks some serious Ass!
You can install FreeDOS on a new computer and have it dual-boot with Windows XP as well. This doesn't harm the WindowsXP installation at all and doesn't require re-installing WindowsXP. You just put FreeDOS on a trivial amount of disk space at the end of the drive. I worked out a detailed procedure for doing this and would welcome comments. It uses free tools that the Linux guys use for dual booting. See www.k1ea.com/hints Dual-boot Real DOS on Windows XP for a detailed procedure, though a bit MSDOS centric. The keys are shrinking the NTFS partition to make room for DOS, formatting a FAT32 partition, and configuring the dual boot. Mark Johnson Lam wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:06:29 +0100, you wrote: Hi Gerry, I'd been building and testing PCs using Dos622 with MSCLIENT 3.0, but kept runing into limitations, conflicts and lack of memory. I tried Win95 and Win98 boot disks instead, but things got even worse. A brand new server had 4Gb of memory and Win98's HIMEM and EMM386 didn't like this at all. The USB memory sticks also conflicted with EMM386. Exactly same as my problem before using FreeDOS. I extracted the boot sector from there, and copied the kernel, made my own FDCONFIG.SYS and suddenly it's working. I then got hold of the most hacked together alpha, beta, CVS or whatever files I could find together with UMBPCI and made a new build. The best way to start FreeDOS should be boot from ODIN (a one-disk only distribution of FreeDOS), and then install the FreeDOS into hard disk ... you can refer to my homepage: http://johnson.tmfc.net/freedos I've now tested this on a range of modern hardware including dual XEON servers with BIOS controlled RAID, AMD with RAID DOS driver, Intel with BIOS controlled SATA, booting from USB memory sticks and building over the network. Good, thanks for your effort, please feel free express any feelings to the mailing list, I'm interest to your story and experience. The result is incredible. I have tons of spare conventional memory, all my real-mode apps now run properly, and everything is faster than before. The other nice thing is that many of the FreeDOS facilities are designed to work with the newer hardware as well as the old. This is a fantastic operating system. Please help introducing FreeDOS to others! Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386
Good day all: After some help and advice from Eric Auer and Michael Devore, I have NTFS4DOS working and loading high with FreeDOS! However, I have been unable to get it to load high with EMM386. I am using the latest development kernel, emm204x, and the latest UMBPCI. MEM reports 213K conventional memory with EMM386 and 550K conventional memory with UMBPCI! :-) Here is my config.sys file: !LASTDRIVE=Z !BUFFERS=20 !FILES=40 !DOS=HIGH,UMB !DOSDATA=UMB !set dircmd=/ogn !MENUCOLOR=7,0 MENUDEFAULT=1,5 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS + HIMEM + EMM386 MENU 3 - Load NTFS4DOS with EMM386 MENU 4 - Load NTFS4DOS with UMBPCI SHELL=a:\command.com /p 1234?DEVICE=A:\FDOS\HIMEM.EXE 23?DEVICE=A:\FDOS\EMM386.EXE X=TEST MEMCHECK VDS 4?DEVICE=a:\fdos\umbpci.sys 34?installhigh=a:\datapol\ntfs4dos.exe a:\command.com /k I have no idea why this doesn't work with EMM386. I get a strange warning from EMM386: selected page frame e000 not available, searching automatically using PAGEFRAME d000: no suitable UMB memory block found This may be unrelated! Thanks again for the help. I'd like to get it working with EMM386 and will be willing to help with testing. Mark Bailey --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos Boot disk
Hi Mans: I can think of two simple things. First, try adding the line LASTDRIVE=Y to your config.sys file. In autoexec.bat, you should have a line for the CDROM driver. Mine is: mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /L:R (config.sys contains device=oakcdrom.sys /D:MSCD001) the /L:R sets the CD drive letter to R. If you have set it to something like E, the third partition on the hard drive would also be E and you might have a problem. Hope this helps! Mark Måns Johansson wrote: Hi, I am using the FreeDos boot disk to automatically boot into FreeDos and create partitions from a batch file. This works well if I have a clean disk, or up to two partitions on the hard drive. Though if I have three partitions I get the following message. Need more drive letters. SHSUCDX can't install. ERROR: Failure loading; unable to find CD-ROM drive. ERROR: ... Anyone have a clue ? /Måns Måns Johansson, ServerGroup Scandinavia --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=fad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Writing to NTFS filesystems
Hi Jim: One option is to create a FAT32 partition on the Windows disk drive and write to that. This can often be done using the free space left on the end of the disk, or you can resize the NTFS partition without destroying the data. See http://www.k1ea.com/hints/DOS%20dual%20boot%20version%201.0.pdf for details. You can also go ahead and install FreeDOS on the resulting partition and dual boot which is what I do. Or, you may be able to access a USB memory stick (aka thumb drive). There are two basic ways of doing that. One is if your BIOS provides the correct support, FreeDOS may detect the USB stick and be able to use it. (Note that this sort of works on my Dell D600 laptop but is unstable). The other way is to use usbaspi.sys and aspidisk.sys to attempt to detect the USB stick from DOS. This works successfully on the computers I've tried. My config.sys contains device=himem.exe device=emm386.exe vds noems x=test /memcheck /verbose device=usbaspi.sys /v /slow device=aspidisk.sys Mark Mark Jim Lemon wrote: Hi, I have been using FreeDOS as a platform for a battery of human performance tests for a few years. It has allowed me to keep a very useful test battery going with the demise of MS-DOS, as the tests take over system interrupts and do not work properly in a DOS window. However, it is becoming more difficult to maintain this as there are hardly any PCs with VFAT partitions anymore. I have managed to keep up so far by producing a bootable CD-ROM and writing the data to a diskette, but even this is getting edgy as many desktops come without a diskette drive now. What I am wondering is if FreeDOS has developed the capability to write to NTFS filesystems so that I could run the tests under FreeDOS on the CD-ROM but write the data to an NTFS filesystem. Also, I'm not sure if M$ has any other filesystems that I might need to consider. Apple seems to do this with their HFS - every time open source HFS tools appear, they change the spec. Jim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Volunteers wanted to test FreeDOS dual boot with Windows XP
Good day, all: As I have posted before, I have developed a first version of a detailed procedure to install DOS (MS-DOS or FreeDOS) on a Windows XP computer, allowing dual-booting DOS and Windows XP and without destroying the Windows XP installation or having to re-install Windows XP. This uses open source software, including qtparted and parted from the Linux world and a boot loader called GAG. You don't have to know how to use Linux to use the procedure. There is a wonderful, bootable, Linux CD that takes care of all of the details for you (available from www.sysresccd.org). I would like to update the document, adding FreeDOS specific information and refining the procedure. I need a few people to go through it and help me with that. If you are willing to install FreeDOS on a Windows XP computer, you can download version 1.0 of the procedure from: http://www.k1ea.com/hints/DOS%20dual%20boot%20version%201.0.pdf or contact me and I'll send it to you. It is still rather MS-DOS centric, but I have installed FreeDOS this way and it works. The computer I am typing this on has Windows XP, FreeDOS, and Linux installed. My other three computers are also set up this way. I welcome questions about the procedure and comments/feedback. Thanks in advance for your help. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Linux on FreeDos or vice versa?
Hi Leke: I wrote up a pretty detailed procedure for doing this, though it's a bit MS-DOS centric. You can add FreeDOS to a Windows system without damaging the Windows installation. You can get the rather large pdf from http://www.k1ea.com/hints/DOS%20dual%20boot%20version%201.0.pdf via www.k1ea.com/hints and the document is called Dual Boot Real DOS on Windows XP. All FOUR of my computers triple boot Windows XP, Linux, and various versions of DOS. Hope this helps. I'm using a boot loader called GAG which is a bit easier to set up than LILO or GRUB (IMHO). Let me know if you have any questions about or comments on the procedure. Mark Leke Lapinkangas wrote: Thanks for the very detailed responses! I didn't realise you could partition the hard drive to run different Operating Systems on the older computers. I will Google Lilo and find out what it's all about. L. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
