Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Nicholas Bernhard via Freedos-user
I'm using Mutt right now, a command-line email client for Linux.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 07:01:11PM -0600, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
>  wrote:
> >
> > Google intends removing all access to basic HTML, and is forcing the issue
> > as of today.
> 
> Did they state a reason? Maintenance burden? Or just better security?
> Because email was always plain text and pretty insecure.
> 
> Realistically, I wonder if there are supported Chromebooks for sale
> with good accessibility options for basic tasks (emails, word
> processing, browsing the web). (In some ways, I feel they aren't
> tested well or aren't supported for long or just scattered in obscure
> locations with little promotion.)
> 
> > A second option   would be a command line  browser tool that substituted
> > for the gmail interface, but that, if I could not use it directly from
> > DOS, could be set up in the Ubuntu shell I have with shellworld.
> 
> I assume Ubuntu is much, much better supported. Surely somebody on
> Linux (or BSD) does email via terminal / commandline.
> 
> > My question is this.
> > is there a DOS only based email client, in freedos, in djppp or something
> > that might meet this need?
> 
> Text-based? Probably not. Though I always say it's not impossible ...
> but, in reality, there are so few DJGPP volunteers that a lot doesn't
> get done.
> 
> Georg Potthast did a graphical (FLTK) FLmail a while back. I never
> tested it (and it's probably somewhat unstable), but I bet that mostly
> works.
> 
> "FLMAIL91.zipFlMail email client version 0.91"
> "FLMAIL91.zip2014-11-145.2 MB"
> 
> * 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/files/Applications/Binary%20versions%20of%20FLTK%20applications/
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] My curiosity

2023-07-24 Thread Nicholas Bernhard via Freedos-user
A T43 running FreeDOS sounds like a good writing machine. 

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 11:53:50PM +0100, John Vella via Freedos-user wrote:
> I've installed freedos because I'm writing my second novel, but I'm easily
> distracted, so I wanted a machine with a decent word processor,
> (Wordperfect 5.1) and no internet access or games to distract me. I have
> deleted the games folder, but accidentally installed MS Word 5, which will
> do the job.
> 
> It also means I get to give my IBM Thinkpad T43 a second life, which is
> nice. 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2023, 22:47 Christopher Evans via Freedos-user, <
> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> > Well, I installed dosemu on my Linux machine, so I could run older dos
> > games like doom and descent as well as work on dos c sources.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > Intelligencia Computer Consulting
> >
> > An open-source and computer help company
> >
> > http://icctechconsult.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:14 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user <
> > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 3:46 PM Daniel Essin via Freedos-user
> >>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I'm following this list and find it very interesting. I found it when I
> >> > was trying to prepare myself to help a friend whose business in built
> >> > around a DOS app. It's clear that many/most/all? have access to other
> >> > computers and OSes. This would be obvious if only because one needs
> >> > access to the internet even if only to get this list. This has made me
> >> > curious.
> >> >
> >> > What are others using freedos for: business, curiosity, running retro
> >> > games and apps for fun, to avoid total dependence on the evil empire, or
> >> > something else?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Dan
> >>
> >> We ran a survey several years ago, and then last year, to answer
> >> exactly that question: How are people using FreeDOS?
> >>
> >> Several years ago (around 2014?) we found people were running FreeDOS
> >> for 3 or 4 main use cases:
> >>
> >> 1. To play classic DOS games
> >> 2. To run legacy DOS applications
> >> 3. To support/develop embedded systems
> >>
> >> and sometimes 4. To install firmware updates on certain motherboards
> >>
> >> I recall that the legacy DOS software was often in a business setting,
> >> such as organizations that needed to retrieve information from an old
> >> DOS application. You discover that some data is locked up in some data
> >> files that are only accessible by the program that wrote the data. So
> >> you find the software (or download it if you don't have it), then
> >> install FreeDOS + the application, and "save as" the data to some
> >> format that you can use.
> >>
> >> We did this when I served as CIO for a university. One of the faculty
> >> found some old floppies with old research data. They wanted to get the
> >> data back (I think to write a paper that referenced the historical
> >> data). We installed FreeDOS on a spare PC that had a floppy drive,
> >> found the original program on a DOS apps archive site, installed that,
> >> and loaded the data. That program could also dump the data into a
> >> plain text file (similar to CSV) which the faculty researcher could
> >> load into a spreadsheet to do further analysis.
> >>
> >> More recently, we found that people were running FreeDOS for (mostly)
> >> 3 main uses:
> >>
> >> 1. To play classic DOS games
> >> 2. To run legacy DOS applications
> >> 3. To develop new DOS programs
> >>
> >> For #3, I think that mostly represented FreeDOS developers responding
> >> to the survey.
> >>
> >> The survey had a few outliers (we still see people who use FreeDOS to
> >> install firmware updates, for example) but in 2022, those were pretty
> >> low compared to the other 3 uses.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dos

2023-07-24 Thread Nicholas Bernhard via Freedos-user
 I had FreeDOS running on a ThinkPad 701C, which used a 486 CPU.

NJB

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 04:31:40PM -0500, Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:14 PM Rahim Fakir via Freedos-user
>  wrote:
> >
> > Whats The main Diference between freedos and dos.
> > Which os The best, dos freedos runs a 486?
> 
> 
> As Bryan said, FreeDOS is a more modern version of DOS.
> 
> Also, FreeDOS is open source software. Very early versions of MS-DOS
> (v1.25 and v2.0, at https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS) are available
> under an open source license, but these were very primitive versions
> of "DOS" that don't have a lot of functionality. For example, MS-DOS
> 2.0 was the first version to support directories.
> 
> You also can't download (legally) a "freeware" copy of MS-DOS, that I
> know of (certainly not one that is of much use, such as MS-DOS 5 or
> MS-DOS 6.x).
> 
> By "more modern," we mean that FreeDOS has more features and includes
> more tools than MS-DOS ever did. For example, the FreeDOS distribution
> includes apps and tools, including some network utilities. We also
> include compilers and assemblers and editors, so you can write your
> own DOS apps to run on FreeDOS.
> 
> And yes, FreeDOS will run on a '486 CPU.
> 
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