Re: [Freedos-user] XMS Manager on '286
Aitor SantamarÃa Merino wrote: Hi there, root escribió: Oops - i forgot that Linux is going to label me as 'root' by default! Anyway... I'm surprised that it is so uncommon to run FD on an old PC. IMHO it seems ridiculous to install FreeDOS on your P4 side-by-side with Windows XP like so many other people do. I mean what DOS software is going to run properly on a 3Ghz CPU? Besides, what else are you going to do with your old PC's? They would bog down to a crawl even on early versions of Linux or FreeBSD, but FreeDOS is perfect. I disagree. FreeDOS is not suited for old machines, but suited for running DOS16/DOS32 code, as well as you can use WindowsXP to run your Win32 code and Linux to run your Linux code. Have you ever tried to run DOOM or HERETIC in a WinXP dosbox? In my testings it doesn't work (it gets too slow, it's not playable). So I can switch to FreeDOS to run this code. Aitor --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Good point, FreeDOS would make a great alternative to WinXP DOS box, for true compatibility ... but out of curiousity how do those games run on such a (assumingly) fast CPU running Window XP? --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XMS Manager on '286
Bernd Blaauw wrote: I don't know if DOS6's HIMEM works on 286 machines. Someone told me DOS 7.10 (Win98) only runs on 386+ machines. Anyway, glad we found a 286 user :) DOS is intended for such machines indeed, but there's hardly any of these machines around in the wild. Bernd --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Yes, under every version of DOS that I'm aware of, HIMEM.SYS is an XMS driver for 286 and above. Most people that have/had a 386+ just run EMM386 in addition to HIMEM, I'm assuming for the purpose of simulating EMS, especially because many DOS games required EMS specifically. I believe M$'s HIMEM.SYS driver simply provided an interface to the BIOS's XMS memory access functions which provided things like GDT's etc. but I don't know all the details. I found out that FreeDOS's HIMEM.EXE is for 386+ only but i'm not sure why. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XMS Manager on '286
Bernd Blaauw wrote: Hello 'root', FDXMS286 should have worked on your computer, and HIMEM probably should have refused to load at all, as it currently cannot handle 286. Great to see someone who can actually test/experiment on pre386 equipment. I do not know if there are any plans to make HIMEM compatible with 286 systems, but FDXMS286 is quite old though it should have worked properly. Maybe a developer will be able to solve your problem. regards, Bernd --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Oops - i forgot that Linux is going to label me as 'root' by default! Anyway... I'm surprised that it is so uncommon to run FD on an old PC. IMHO it seems ridiculous to install FreeDOS on your P4 side-by-side with Windows XP like so many other people do. I mean what DOS software is going to run properly on a 3Ghz CPU? Besides, what else are you going to do with your old PC's? They would bog down to a crawl even on early versions of Linux or FreeBSD, but FreeDOS is perfect. This may be off the original topic, but I have to comment that the FreeDOS CD installer is HORRIBLE. It's so bug-ridden that it only works on newer systems, I've run it on eight different PC's and only Pentium II's and above don't crash the installer. Older PC's don't even get past the CWSDPMI mode switch without causing an exception trap. I am making my own batch file installer for floppy systems right now that doesn't require a CD-ROM or a 386, but I am hoping that someone will replace that installer in the future... --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Edit
I think I found a bug in FreeDOS edit, but I would like to see if anyone else noticed this: When you try to save a text file on a floppy disk that is write protected, it doesn't give any error message. The only way I even knew that the disk was WP was that the drive made a funny sound when I tried to save the file. Anyone else notice this? --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
