Re: [Freedos-user] 1.1 new install, no boot
Hi, On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Ray Davison ray...@charter.net wrote: Create boot floppy; Bad command or file name - I:\FreeDOS\3rdParty\extract FAT12 System transferred Floppy no-boot. I've not tried this myself. Though I think you can find Extract here: ftp://ftp.winimage.com/extrac21.zip ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utildisk/extrac21.zip I'm not sure why it's being used here. You don't need it to build a floppy image. Are you looking to install some minimal FreeDOS from floppy? Do you need an .img for actual hardware or some kind of VM? There are quite a few (old) floppy .img files online. The problem is that most of them don't have what you want, are hard to modify, don't have sources, too old, too buggy, etc. There's just very little interest in floppy .img files these days. Most people roll their own inside VirtualBox or QEMU or whatever. That's what I did recently (more on this later). But (AFAIK) you can't fit a full FreeDOS BASE on a floppy, it's too big. So you have to pick and choose, be extremely precise about what pieces you need, want, what you're trying to do, etc. In other words, what specifically are you trying to do? What files do you need on there? What machines / environments are you trying to use? There have been two or three people here recently asking about having a floppy to install from, but it's just not obvious (to me) what they intend to do that they can't already do with pre-existing (old) .img files. Wanting latest / greatest and all features under the sun is fine, but it's not realistic. You have to be more specific so we can tell you what's possible, reasonable, etc. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.1 new install, no boot
Rugxulo wrote: In other words, what specifically are you trying to do? What files do you need on there? What machines / environments are you trying to use? I use a floppy to boot a machine for maintenance and occasionally to run SYS from. All I need FreeDOS to put on there is KERNEL and COMMAND, I'll take it from there. Ray -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.1 new install, no boot
Hi, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Ray Davison ray...@charter.net wrote: Rugxulo wrote: In other words, what specifically are you trying to do? What files do you need on there? What machines / environments are you trying to use? I use a floppy to boot a machine for maintenance and occasionally to run SYS from. All I need FreeDOS to put on there is KERNEL and COMMAND, I'll take it from there. So you already have your own FDISK and FORMAT utils? So literally all you need is SYS to make a boot sector? Plus the obligatory kernel (presumably 8086 / FAT32) and shell (LFN-aware? DESCRIPT.ION? XMS swap?)? No memory managers (EMS, XMS, DPMI)? No other drivers (RAM disk, mouse, CD, software cache, networking)? I'm just saying, an ultra minimal boot disk is not very useful to 99% of the world. If you can boot up an emulator (e.g. VirtualBox or QEMU) or use similar tools (Mtools on Linux, see Wikipedia), you can roll your own from the FD 1.1 .iso. P.S. I made my own minimal floppy .img recently, but I'm honestly waiting to hear back from Jim Hall whether he thinks it's totally useless or not! My previous mentions of it didn't gather any suggestions or comments, so it's fair to say that most people can handle themselves or are just too busy. Older attempts of mine for making a bootable floppy are somewhat old these days (circa 2008 or 2009), but they're still on my homepage. Are you desperate enough to use an ancient release or must it have whatever is new and latest? -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.1 new install, no boot
Ray Davison wrote: Install to HDD; Reboot After boot from CD, blinking cursor at left margin I chose selection 1, copy DOS to MBR - or some such. Ray -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
