Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jacques-Olivier Farcy
 wrote:
>
> I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
> Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.

Are you trying FD 1.2 or the newer (unfinished) 1.3-rc2?

* 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/previews/1.3-rc2/
   (has a floppy image)

There's nothing fancy about FreeDOS nor anything mandatory about
installers or .iso files or anything. So, as mentioned, you can use a
floppy image if all you need is (minimally) the kernel and shell. (The
shell had another pre-release a few months ago but hasn't been heavily
tested yet. The kernel hasn't had a proper release since 2016. So
FreeDOS hasn't had any majorly disruptive or amazing changes recently,
but some small things still get done on the side.)

I almost hate to point to this, but here's yet another floppy image to
use (far from perfect, but it mostly works):

* 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/metados/

Since that's the bare minimum (kernel and shell), you can add whatever
else you want, piece by piece. Obviously the CD image is including a
bunch of extras that you probably won't need. If you know exactly what
software you need, you can grab it from iBiblio elsewhere (or
third-party sites, obviously):

* http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/
(among various other subdirs for other things)

If you don't have internet, you could always go to your local public
library, perhaps, and copy from there. (Get a USB floppy drive, if you
need it.) If you did have internet *and* a working packet driver
(somewhat rare), that would make installation (without USB or CD-ROM)
*much* easier, IMHO.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Jacques-Olivier Farcy

thanks !
I will try that

Le 10/03/2020 à 16:09, Deposite Pirate a écrit :

March 10, 2020 3:55 PM, "Jacques-Olivier Farcy" 
 wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.

Is there a way to do that ?

Yes. Just like any other DOS. Get the image of a FreeDOS floppy and write it to 
a floppy disk. Make sure there are the utilites 'sys', 'format', 'fdisk' on the 
floppy. Then boot the floppy. 'fdisk c:' if you need to partition the hard 
drive, then 'format c: /s' to format the drive and install DOS to the drive. 
Then 'c:', 'mkdir dos', 'a:', 'copy *.* c:\dos'. Then you can format the floppy 
and copy more stuff to it to put in c:\dos. Edit config.sys and autoexec.bat to 
your liking but at least add PATH=C:\DOS to autoexec.bat.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Deposite Pirate
March 10, 2020 3:55 PM, "Jacques-Olivier Farcy" 
 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
> Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.
> 
> Is there a way to do that ?

Yes. Just like any other DOS. Get the image of a FreeDOS floppy and write it to 
a floppy disk. Make sure there are the utilites 'sys', 'format', 'fdisk' on the 
floppy. Then boot the floppy. 'fdisk c:' if you need to partition the hard 
drive, then 'format c: /s' to format the drive and install DOS to the drive. 
Then 'c:', 'mkdir dos', 'a:', 'copy *.* c:\dos'. Then you can format the floppy 
and copy more stuff to it to put in c:\dos. Edit config.sys and autoexec.bat to 
your liking but at least add PATH=C:\DOS to autoexec.bat.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Jacques-Olivier Farcy

It an old MS-DOS actually installed on the hard drive
I don't have Internet (and i think i can't have).
It is a vbery old laptop.

Le 10/03/2020 à 16:18, Eric Auer a écrit :

Hi!


I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.

If you have internet and another operating system on
that computer, you could download the ISO and a boot
floppy image. Then make sure to have a FAT partition
on the harddisk and put the ISO there. Create a boot
floppy from the image and use the ISO image drivers
for DOS to open the ISO to simulate a CD-ROM with it.

Which operating systems do you have on the computer yet?

Another way would be to connect the harddisk to some
other computer for installation.

Of course if you have a CD-ROM drive in the computer
in question and a CD/DVD writer somewhere, that would
be the easiest method, next to using some USB drive.

And of course you can also create the boot floppy on
another computer with a floppy drive. The methods for
doing so vary depending on the operating systems :-)

Regards, Eric



Is there a way to do that ?

It seems that i need CR-ROM or USB to install Freedos ...

Jacques-Olivier




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Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Eric Auer


Hi!

>> I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
>> Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.

If you have internet and another operating system on
that computer, you could download the ISO and a boot
floppy image. Then make sure to have a FAT partition
on the harddisk and put the ISO there. Create a boot
floppy from the image and use the ISO image drivers
for DOS to open the ISO to simulate a CD-ROM with it.

Which operating systems do you have on the computer yet?

Another way would be to connect the harddisk to some
other computer for installation.

Of course if you have a CD-ROM drive in the computer
in question and a CD/DVD writer somewhere, that would
be the easiest method, next to using some USB drive.

And of course you can also create the boot floppy on
another computer with a floppy drive. The methods for
doing so vary depending on the operating systems :-)

Regards, Eric


>> Is there a way to do that ?
>>
>> It seems that i need CR-ROM or USB to install Freedos ...
>>
>> Jacques-Olivier




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Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Joao Silva
Hello.

You'll need a CD or DVD to install, unless you have someone who have
freeDos installed and make a floppy with boot.

sys c:

This worked in DOS it should work on freedos.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 2:54 PM Jacques-Olivier Farcy <
jacques-olivier.fa...@univ-rennes1.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
> Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.
>
> Is there a way to do that ?
>
> It seems that i need CR-ROM or USB to install Freedos ...
>
> Jacques-Olivier
>
>
>
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[Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Jacques-Olivier Farcy

Hi,

I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port.
Just floppy and a little hard drive inside.

Is there a way to do that ?

It seems that i need CR-ROM or USB to install Freedos ...

Jacques-Olivier



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