[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Partitioning reply

2022-05-09 Thread Daniel
Here is my exact steps:
Start fdisk and make sure to delete all partitions so I am starting fresh.

1) Create a Primarry partition of size 20480
2) Create an extended partition of max size
3) Fill up the rest of the drive with 20480, 20480, and the remaining space
left.

Once done I reboot the computer and restart freedos install.

Install seems to go properly, but once it reboots and starts to load I get
alot of size errors partition is this but should be that.  It then asks for
the date and time and puts ky at the command prompt.

I will be testing this in a vm with a large drive to see if I get the same
results so I can record it and have snapshots to show.

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> Hi Daniel!
>
> > I am tryin to install FD on a Dell PC with an 80 gb partition.  I tried
> as
> > I prefered it spliting into 4 partitions, and as one large partition.
> When
> > I boot into the live CD all seems fine, but after it does the formating
> and
> > installing, I get a bunch of errors about the partitins.  Looking at the
> > fdisk informations they seem to get changed from 20481 to 20489.  Not
> sure
> > why.  Can anyone check to see if this happens to them?  Is there a size
> > limit currently for partitions?
>
> Please share more details about the issue. If you want to have
> 4 partitions of 20 GB each, you will have to use FAT32, but it
> is possible to have much larger FAT32 partitions. The limit in
> your case will be the 2 TB limit for MBR partitioned disks and
> sometimes a limit of how large disks are supported by the BIOS,
> which could be 128 GB for old LBA BIOS versions. FAT32 itself
> is limited to 2^28 clusters, which means that even for common
> cluster size 4 kB you already reach 1 TB in a single partition.
> And clusters can be much larger than that, so your effective
> limit is the 2 TB disk size limit of 512 byte per sector MBR.
>
> That said, I recommend that you use LBA mode for partitioning,
> so the partition type should be 0c FAT32 LBA, not 0b FAT32 CHS.
>
> If you use extended partitions, you would use 0f with LBA instead
> of 05 with CHS, but as you mention that you planned to use exactly
> four partitions, you probably do not use extended partitions here.
> Likewise, if you would use FAT16, type 06 is CHS, type 0e is LBA,
> but FAT16 partitions can be at most 2 GB (in some cases 4 GB).
>
> If you are using an older version of FDISK, it may have some type
> of rounding error which could explain what you are seeing, but if
> it just rounds the size to the next whole cylinder in CHS mode,
> that would just be something common to do and not a real error.
>
> However, if you get inconsistencies and the partitions do not  boot
> or otherwise do not work properly, then that could be a real bug.
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> Regards, Eric
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Partitioning

2022-05-08 Thread Eric Auer



Hi Daniel!


I am tryin to install FD on a Dell PC with an 80 gb partition.  I tried as
I prefered it spliting into 4 partitions, and as one large partition.  When
I boot into the live CD all seems fine, but after it does the formating and
installing, I get a bunch of errors about the partitins.  Looking at the
fdisk informations they seem to get changed from 20481 to 20489.  Not sure
why.  Can anyone check to see if this happens to them?  Is there a size
limit currently for partitions?


Please share more details about the issue. If you want to have
4 partitions of 20 GB each, you will have to use FAT32, but it
is possible to have much larger FAT32 partitions. The limit in
your case will be the 2 TB limit for MBR partitioned disks and
sometimes a limit of how large disks are supported by the BIOS,
which could be 128 GB for old LBA BIOS versions. FAT32 itself
is limited to 2^28 clusters, which means that even for common
cluster size 4 kB you already reach 1 TB in a single partition.
And clusters can be much larger than that, so your effective
limit is the 2 TB disk size limit of 512 byte per sector MBR.

That said, I recommend that you use LBA mode for partitioning,
so the partition type should be 0c FAT32 LBA, not 0b FAT32 CHS.

If you use extended partitions, you would use 0f with LBA instead
of 05 with CHS, but as you mention that you planned to use exactly
four partitions, you probably do not use extended partitions here.
Likewise, if you would use FAT16, type 06 is CHS, type 0e is LBA,
but FAT16 partitions can be at most 2 GB (in some cases 4 GB).

If you are using an older version of FDISK, it may have some type
of rounding error which could explain what you are seeing, but if
it just rounds the size to the next whole cylinder in CHS mode,
that would just be something common to do and not a real error.

However, if you get inconsistencies and the partitions do not  boot
or otherwise do not work properly, then that could be a real bug.

Regards, Eric



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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Partitioning

2022-05-07 Thread Daniel
I am having a problem with FreeDOS and partitions.

Here is the issue:
I am tryin to install FD on a Dell PC with an 80 gb partition.  I tried as
I prefered it spliting into 4 partitions, and as one large partition.  When
I boot into the live CD all seems fine, but after it does the formating and
installing, I get a bunch of errors about the partitins.  Looking at the
fdisk informations they seem to get changed from 20481 to 20489.  Not sure
why.  Can anyone check to see if this happens to them?  Is there a size
limit currently for partitions?

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> Some folks asked that I post regular updates about the videos on the
> FreeDOS YouTube channel, so they can follow them without subscribing
> to the channel. I don't want to "spam" the list every time a new video
> comes out, so I'm sharing these email updates with you about every
> month or so:
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> * The FreeDOS YouTube channel is at https://www.youtube.com/freedosproject
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> When we released FreeDOS 1.3, I posted a short video where I talked
> about FreeDOS while I installed FreeDOS in the background. It's not
> really a "how to install" video, but more of a "welcome to FreeDOS
> 1.3" video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dypXc4B4wI
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> Also check out this video about the "thank you" Easter egg that Jerome
> included in the installer:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XBgdVs00tY
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>
> I also have been showing off some DOS games running on FreeDOS. I
> recently covered these four games:
>
> "Tomb Raider" (DOS demo)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTKvYuaQOBs
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> "Block Drop" (from FreeDOS 1.3)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7gTgaFrDeM
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> "RCross" (tiny RC car racing game)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EZNvZgEnbk
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> "Says Who" (from FreeDOS 1.3)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIbLFHQmv7g
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> And by request, I've returned to programming videos. The programming
> videos were popular for a time, and some folks still ask for them,
> even though they don't get a ton of views. These are meant to be
> "introduction to programming" topics, and aren't very complex. (It's
> hard to write a very complicated program in under an hour, especially
> when you need to keep talking about what you're doing.)
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> "Video end screens as a DOS program"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE3ctKLyiTg
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> "Writing a Wordle game for DOS"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=719NGiNz3Is
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> Hi everyone
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> I sometimes write for Opensource.com, and some of my articles are
> about FreeDOS. It's great that the FreeDOS articles still get a ton of
> views, even in 2022. (Yes, really. FreeDOS articles regularly rank in
> the top 10 articles for each month.)
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> If you're interested in writing about FreeDOS, you might like to know
> the editors at Opensource.com are collecting FreeDOS articles into an
> ebook, and plan to publish it on (or around) June 29. Our FreeDOS
> anniversary is June 29, 1994.
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> I don't know when they plan to stop considering new articles for the
> ebook - but if you've been thinking about writing an article, now is
> the time.
>
> You can find them at https://opensource.com/
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> You can learn about writing for them at https://opensource.com/writers
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> (The quick summary is "Drafts should be submitted via email to
> o...@opensource.com.")
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