Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On 05/04/2012 12:55 AM, TJ Edmister wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:14:27 -0400, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: As I understand it the plan is to run DOS on an older tablet and use USB to interface directly with the sensors and actuators. Hardware interrupts will be used as timing events to keep everything in sync with the engine. Sounds like DOS would be a good choice for that sort of real-time application. I haven`t heard of any existing software that does this though. Well, this is an open source project. FreeDOS users should be familiar with the roll your own concept of software acquisition. The chief engineer is leaning toward using compiled QuickBasic. Any well seasoned MS-DOS veteran should be familiar with QB. Of course you may well be dating yourself if you've ever actually written any QB code. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On Fri, 04 May 2012 21:32:52 -0400, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: Well, this is an open source project. FreeDOS users should be familiar with the roll your own concept of software acquisition. The chief engineer is leaning toward using compiled QuickBasic. Any well seasoned MS-DOS veteran should be familiar with QB. Of course you may well be dating yourself if you've ever actually written any QB code. I wrote something in QB last week :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:14:27 -0400, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: As I understand it the plan is to run DOS on an older tablet and use USB to interface directly with the sensors and actuators. Hardware interrupts will be used as timing events to keep everything in sync with the engine. Sounds like DOS would be a good choice for that sort of real-time application. I haven`t heard of any existing software that does this though. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On Tue, 01 May 2012 21:16:35 -0400, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: Hey Y'all, Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? There were no such thing as USB ports back in the MS-DOS days. ;-) My friends on the rotary engine mail list want to know so they can use it to control the engine ignition and fuel injection systems. Another awesome use for FreeDOS. Hi, hope you don`t mind if I ask which system it is? Were they thinking about running FreeDOS on the actual engine controller, or on a PC that interfaces with it? I have tinkered with some aftermarket engine electronics (MS, megajolt, ostrich) and they all used RS232 to communicate, but sometimes with a RS232-USB adaptor in between. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On 05/02/2012 02:08 AM, TJ Edmister wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2012 21:16:35 -0400, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: Hey Y'all, Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? There were no such thing as USB ports back in the MS-DOS days. ;-) My friends on the rotary engine mail list want to know so they can use it to control the engine ignition and fuel injection systems. Another awesome use for FreeDOS. Hi, hope you don`t mind if I ask which system it is? Were they thinking about running FreeDOS on the actual engine controller, or on a PC that interfaces with it? I have tinkered with some aftermarket engine electronics (MS, megajolt, ostrich) and they all used RS232 to communicate, but sometimes with a RS232-USB adaptor in between. As I understand it the plan is to run DOS on an older tablet and use USB to interface directly with the sensors and actuators. Hardware interrupts will be used as timing events to keep everything in sync with the engine. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
Mark LaPierre wrote: Hey Y'all, Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? The DFSee boot CD runs FreeDOS. It can access thumb drives and USB connected HDDs. Dies that prove anything where you are concerned? Ray -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] USB Support
Hey Y'all, Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? There were no such thing as USB ports back in the MS-DOS days. ;-) My friends on the rotary engine mail list want to know so they can use it to control the engine ignition and fuel injection systems. Another awesome use for FreeDOS. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
Hi, On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? There were no such thing as USB ports back in the MS-DOS days. ;-) My friends on the rotary engine mail list want to know so they can use it to control the engine ignition and fuel injection systems. Another awesome use for FreeDOS. Don't get your hopes up, it's probably far from what you're used to on Linux, but ... if you're really curious, these are the two best URLs to check out: http://www.dosusb.net/ http://www.bretjohnson.us/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support, USB portable HD?,music
installing FreeDos, into a new portable HD, usb I just bought, it is sangsun,320GB cca 250 MiB ??? I also just wanted to comment, on the music, and long file names Not supported in FreeDOS (at least not by the kernel). directory in Fdos, none of the names could be read,it was real confusing.. BLAH~1.MP5 ??? Anyone whom has successfuly installed FreeDos to a portable USB HD ? NO. Why not the internal HD ??? ..please give me any tips or instruction.. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.USB -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support, USB portable HD?,music
Hello, I was looking at the most recent new letters, and because I am wondering about installing FreeDos, into a new portable HD, usb I just bought, it is a sangsun,320GB I also just wanted to comment, on the music, and long file names, I use MPXPLAY, on the FreeDos, and yea, when I first put my favorite songs, to a directory in Fdos, none of the names could be read,it was real confusing..so I went back, to windows where I had the original files, and renamed them to short names, that I could easily remember...copied them back to the Directory in Fdos,.. Anyone whom has successfuly installed FreeDos to a portable USB HD ?..please give me any tips or instruction..I tried useing the same technique I used to put it on USB bootstick 4gb(kingston)...but it did not workThats all for now thanks Garry Ricketson-- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support/IPod
support that they might find an IPod hooked to a modern PC... I might be wrong, but iPod and certain cameras are in some way special. Otherwise it would be easy: Almost all other MP3 and MP4 players and many cameras or even cardreaders simply look like USB sticks for drivers, which means that you can access them from DOS. But in the case of an iPod - I must say that I doubt that it can be accessed properly from DOS. Probably a DRM lock? You should be able to access an ipod as a USB stick, but the music files will all have 4 letter [seemingly] random names and so it would be hard to tell which files are which songs. Basically you can still play the music though. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support/IPod
Hi, You should be able to access an ipod as a USB stick, but the music files will all have 4 letter [seemingly] random names and so it would be hard to tell which files are which songs. Basically you can still play the music though. i guess, it uses a hash? Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] USB support/IPod
Hi, Do any of the FreeDOS iso images contain enough USB support that they might find an IPod hooked to a modern computer via motherboard/chipset-based USB controllers? If so which one? If not what sort of USB host controller is required to find an IPod with FreeDOS. Thanks, Mark -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support/IPod
Hi Mark, Do any of the FreeDOS iso images contain enough USB All ISOs are several years old as far as I remember. The newest drivers are from Bret Johnson, 1/2010: http://bretjohnson.us/ You can use a floppy distro such as the Rugxulo one: http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ You can either put it on a real floppy or if you have Linux or Mac mount the image or if you have Windows use a suitable Windows virtual floppy style tool to modify the contents, for example to update USB drivers. Any decent CD/DVD burning software should allow you to use a floppy or floppy image as the boot image of a data CD/DVD. It does not matter which files you put as data. Actually DOS will not even see the files unless you include CD/DVD drivers in the floppy. On the other hand, the floppy contents themselves cannot be seen as part of the data, they do not show up in your Windows / Mac / Linux file manager afterwards. In any case, the ability to boot DOS from a virtual floppy (the boot image) of, for example, a CD-RW or DVD-RW, gives you an easy way to experiment with all drivers that you can find :-). support that they might find an IPod hooked to a modern PC... I might be wrong, but iPod and certain cameras are in some way special. Otherwise it would be easy: Almost all other MP3 and MP4 players and many cameras or even cardreaders simply look like USB sticks for drivers, which means that you can access them from DOS. But in the case of an iPod - I must say that I doubt that it can be accessed properly from DOS. Probably a DRM lock? computer via motherboard/chipset-based USB controllers? DOS drivers such as the one from Bret Johnson or such as www.dosusb.net/ from Georg Potthast often focus on USB 1.1 (and 1.0) so they do not support the highspeed transfer of USB 2.0 but will still work on the newest mainboards. Of course USB 1.x is pretty slow, so if your BIOS itself already supports USB 2.0, performance would actually be best without loading any DOS drivers at all. The BIOS often supports only PS/2 (mouse and keyboard) and storage (USB sticks, harddisk, floppy, maybe cardreaders, CD, DVD). If you want to use more USB hardware than that, you still have to load a DOS driver. You cannot share one chip between BIOS and a DOS driver, so all USB sockets which are run by the same mainboard component have to share a driver, BIOS or DOS one. If so which one? If not what sort of USB host controller is required to find an IPod with FreeDOS. The controller should not be a problem, they all do follow the same USB standard. However, speed in DOS will be limited and due to Apple or DRM annoyance it is quite possible that DOS will not get iPod access. Eric -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] USB support for FreeDOS.
Eric, First, I don't see what you mean by the BIOS supports flash drive, etc.. To my knowledge (limited), I still can't access these things from FreeDOS. But more grim is the fact that my newer machine, a Dell 521, made in 2007, with AThlon 64, uses really modern drives, and when I start the FreeDOS under GEM, even the CD/DVD drive doesn't work!!! . As I had mentioned before, every kind of FreeDOS; small or full; and even the older boot disks i.e. 'startup disks' show a message that they cannot find a drver for the CD. In fact, given all that, I'm amazed that they allow the hard drive to work, as it too is recent(serial ATA). So, what happens is the GEM desktop does not show any CD icon, only the C drive, and oddly, a floppy drive, which is not physically present on the computer!!!.Like everyone who comes to this site, I have a soft spot for DOS, and we have to update these things, or FreeDOS will start to look like the dinosaur. By the way, the 521 uses a USB mouse,and because of this, I can't really use the FreeDOS on it in any case(remember, no USB support!).--Tip, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support for FreeDOS.
Tipi Nedmark schrieb: Eric, First, I don't see what you mean by the BIOS supports flash drive, etc.. To my knowledge (limited), I still can't access these things from FreeDOS. But more grim is the fact that my newer machine, a Dell 521, made in 2007, with AThlon 64, uses really modern drives, and when I start the FreeDOS under GEM, even the CD/DVD drive doesn't work!!! . As I had mentioned before, every kind of FreeDOS; small or full; and even the older boot disks i.e. 'startup disks' show a message that they cannot find a drver for the CD. In fact, given all that, I'm amazed that they allow the hard drive to work, as it too is recent(serial ATA). So, what happens is the GEM desktop does not show any CD icon, only the C drive, and oddly, a floppy drive, which is not physically present on the computer!!!.Like everyone who comes to this site, I have a soft spot for DOS, and we have to update these things, or FreeDOS will start to look like the dinosaur. By the way, the 521 uses a USB mouse,and because of this, I can't really use the FreeDOS on it in any case(remember, no USB support!).--Tip, [EMAIL PROTECTED] For CD-ROM there are a lot of drivers, try xcdrom. To get USB to work under DOS is tricky. If USB booting is working then this is the most easy method without driver. Otherwise you need to find the correct driver. All informations here: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.USB -mr - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support for FreeDOS.
For CD-ROM there are a lot of drivers, try xcdrom. could be S-ATA CDROM. then he'n need gcdrom or UIDE Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards Tom Ehlert +49-241-79886 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support for FreeDOS.
Hi! You should be able to enable legacy support in BIOS. Then the following should work: - usb keyboard - usb mouse (with a DOS ps2 mouse driver) - usb cdrom and dvd (but only for booting from them) - usb floppy, usb harddisk and usb flash stick (but maybe only if you boot from them) In either case, you have to connect the device before you boot... And you _may_ have to enable some sort of legacy non PnP OS support option in BIOS CMOS setup. and when I start the FreeDOS under GEM, even the CD/DVD Are you sure you do not mean the other way round? You first have to start DOS before you can start GEM... The harddisk is supported by the BIOS, so DOS has no worries here. for DOS, and we have to update these things, or FreeDOS will... Try the version on http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ Here are some CDROM driver links: http://marktsai0316.googlepages.com/gcdromfordos (SATA CD/DVD) (also on SF.net cdromdosdrv) www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/gcdrom/ www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/udma+drivers/ (yes that is a plus sign in the URL :-p) (SATA/IDE/ATA/UDMA CD/DVD/HDD) www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/shsucdx/ (this generates a drive letter with your cdrom/dvd files, it needs a lowlevel driver such as gcdrom or uide loaded first) To access the CDROM you must first load GCDROM or UIDE (or similar, for example XCDROM or proprietary drivers) and then load SHSUCDX or MSCDEX or similar. You can also load CDRCACHE between lowlevel driver and SHSUCDX :-). Note that SHSUCDX only supports ISO9660, not UDF, so you can expect problems with rewriteables and disks filled with more than 4 GB of data (unless they use ISO9660). Rewriteables with ISO9660 content are no problem :-). Eric PS: FreeDOS 1.0 only contains XCDROM which is related to UIDE but much older and without SATA support etc... - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support
Thanks for the info...i just like to know if FreeDos could use jump drive. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] USB support
Do FreeDos have usb support? And if it does, then is it hot swappable? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support
Robert Her schreef: Do FreeDos have usb support? And if it does, then is it hot swappable? Hi, FreeDOS has no USB-support. However, the BIOS (a part of your computer) can show some USB devices as non-USB devices to DOS. (think of things like floppydrive, mouse, keyboard and maybe ZIPdrive) And there are several device drivers which allow you to use a few USB-devices (harddisk, cdrom-drive) About hot-swappable: you'll just have to test. I doubt that feature is supported. which devices do you have that require USB-support? Bernd --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB support
Robert Her wrote: Do FreeDos have usb support? And if it does, then is it hot swappable? http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm Here is a site that has DOS USB drivers. I have no experience with them but found them while looking for DOS programs/drivers/etc. TomLeeM BigWarpGuy - BigMiniGuy - BigDosGuy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * eComStation The OS For the Internet Generation http://www.ecomstation.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
