Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-16 Thread Dale E Sterner
Nice thinking, now to get the camera companies to use it. I like. Keep the ball rolling. cheers DS On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:19:10 -0400 "TJ Edmister" writes: > MS implemented an arbitrary limit of 32GB for FAT32 volumes, but with > > third-party tools much larger

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-15 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:19 PM, TJ Edmister wrote: > MS implemented an arbitrary limit of 32GB for FAT32 volumes, but with > third-party tools much larger ones are possible (up to 2TB?). Maybe those > flash cards could be reformatted and used in the camera with FAT32

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-15 Thread TJ Edmister
MS implemented an arbitrary limit of 32GB for FAT32 volumes, but with third-party tools much larger ones are possible (up to 2TB?). Maybe those flash cards could be reformatted and used in the camera with FAT32 instead. On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:27:01 -0400, Dale E Sterner

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-15 Thread Dale E Sterner
I've seen a hand full of links for newly revised dos games here. I could use exFAT support for dos I read camera chips into dos and play them on QV. I couldn't read my brother in laws & my cousins new camera chips. DOS usually dos better with chips. QV is really good. DS On Mon, 14 Aug 2017

[Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread Pierre LaMontagne
/If you are just browsing packages. It is far better to look at the package “group” pages. Like the Utilities Group page,/ // Agreed, it is easier, at least, for me it was.That is what I used, I didn't even know about the complete listing when I browsed the group listings.:) Those are some

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread geneb
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017, Ralf Quint wrote: There are however patents on the way long file names are implemented on FAT32 (https://www.google.com/patents/US5579517?dq=5,579,517, https://www.google.com/patents/US5758352?dq=5,758,352)... As far as I can tell, both of those patents have expired. g.

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > Many people like a challenge. The big plus for exFAT > is its huge file size and fast operating speed. They like a challenge where *they* will benefit from working on it. See "scratching a personal itch" in the post

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread Dale E Sterner
Many people like a challenge. The big plus for exFAT is its huge file size and fast operating speed. These people who write DOS games face that difficulty all the time; they might already have some ideas. Time will tell. cheers DS On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:27:45 -0400 dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >> MS will jump on you if you try to use MS code. If you reverse engineer and >> roll your own access programs, MS won't go after you. It's in their >> interest to have the format readable on everything. As noted,

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > On the other hand there seem to be a number of good > open sorce programmers out there. Why not create > another file system that does the same thing as exFAT > but make it free. Flash card makers are paying dear > to

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 8/14/2017 9:52 AM, dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > >> And as exFAT is a encumbered with software patents by Micro$oft, there >> won't be any support in FreeDOS (or any other Open Source OS) in the >> foreseeable future... > So is

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread Dale E Sterner
On the other hand there seem to be a number of good open sorce programmers out there. Why not create another file system that does the same thing as exFAT but make it free. Flash card makers are paying dear to use exFAT. FREE would push MS out of the exFAT business. cheers DS On Mon, 14 Aug

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > And as exFAT is a encumbered with software patents by Micro$oft, there > won't be any support in FreeDOS (or any other Open Source OS) in the > foreseeable future... So is FAT16/FAT32, but those are supported pretty much

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-14 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Ralf Quint: > > On 8/13/2017 4:56 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > New cameras are using a new format that I can't read. > > I can read FAT 16 & FAT 32. Web search said that > > they are using FAT 64. FDISK doesn't even detect it. > > SD chips go undetected with this new format. > As Dennis

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-13 Thread Ralf Quint
On 8/13/2017 4:56 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > New cameras are using a new format that I can't read. > I can read FAT 16 & FAT 32. Web search said that > they are using FAT 64. FDISK doesn't even detect it. > SD chips go undetected with this new format. As Dennis already mentioned, newer cameras/SD

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-13 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > New cameras are using a new format that I can't read. > I can read FAT 16 & FAT 32. Web search said that > they are using FAT 64. FDISK doesn't even detect it. > SD chips go undetected with this new format. I think you

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-13 Thread Dale E Sterner
New cameras are using a new format that I can't read. I can read FAT 16 & FAT 32. Web search said that they are using FAT 64. FDISK doesn't even detect it. SD chips go undetected with this new format. cheers DS On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:01:54 -0500 Rugxulo writes: > Hi, > >

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> On Aug 12, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Pierre LaMontagne wrote: >> >> Isn't USB 1.1 & 2.0 supposed to be compatible? My 2.0 flash drive wasn't >> recognized on >> my FD 1.1 USB PC. Is there a util

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-12 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Aug 12, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Pierre LaMontagne wrote: > > (I know it's the same thing, but it's easier to me to only have to look in > Sound for relevant sound/music tools than scroll through a list of hundreds > of programs, even if sorted / ordered.) > > For me too,

[Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-12 Thread Pierre LaMontagne
(I know it's the same thing, but it's easier to me to only have to look in Sound for relevant sound/music tools than scroll through a list of hundreds of programs, even if sorted / ordered.) For me too, in fact I used that very same software listing that your link provides to build my own