Re: [Freedos-user] Open Source and/or Free Software?

2016-06-18 Thread Robert Riebisch
Rugxulo wrote: > The irony is that most people choke on the complexity, even on > "simple" systems, because they get caught up in creeping featurism, > featuritis, code bloat, or whatever you want to call it. It really > shouldn't be this hard to (re)build world. The fact that we (still!) >

Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation

2016-06-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > (sorry about the long mail...) > >> During the discussion of version 1.2, this was my interpretation of >> how this should be handled and what was implemented when the >> user installed FreeDOS in normal

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Brandon Taylor
As much as I hate to concede, I must. I have found a critical passage on the FreeDOS website which, in my eyes, discourages further experimentation: “FreeDOS is a complete operating system. If you choose to install this on your computer, you may overwrite the operating system you have now (for

Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation

2016-06-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi guys, > “FreeDOS is a complete operating system. If you choose to install > this on your computer, you may overwrite the operating system you > have now (for example, Windows.) If this is not what you intend, > please stop now.” That leads to the IMPORTANT questions: * Is it easy enough to

Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation

2016-06-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > […] > I think this was part of the FreeDOS 1.2 discussion before, but > how about detection whether a harddisk is "totally" empty before > showing the question how to install? I agree that for people who > made a totally empty

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Don Flowers
Brandon, >“FreeDOS is a complete operating system. If you choose to install this on your >computer, you may overwrite the operating system you have now (for example, >Windows.) If this is not what you intend, please stop now. Notice the word "may" . That FreeDOS *may* overwrite the current

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi anonymous Abwesend forum member who is pessimistic about DOS ;-) > Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. > FreeDOS on the other hand is a very old operating system concept. Old concept yes, old operating system no. This means: DOS has no multi

Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation

2016-06-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi guys, (sorry about the long mail...) > During the discussion of version 1.2, this was my interpretation of > how this should be handled and what was implemented when the > user installed FreeDOS in normal mode. Having a failed install (by > not booting into FreeDOS) was unacceptable

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread userbeitrag
Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. If you only want to play Lure of the Temptress, on a mordern computer you have two options: * DOSBox * ScummVM I would recommend to use ScummVM for playing old (and by ScummVM supported) click-and-point adventures. It integrates very well

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Dale E Sterner
I'm curious; do you have a removable hard drive? If you do you might do it the way I do. I replace the hard drive with CF flash chips. Each chip has a different OS. I can run anything from dos to win 7 by just replacing the chip. Your computer is probably too new for this to work. Works well on

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread userbeitrag
Hello Eric Auer! Original message from Eric Auer, 2016-06-18 19:14: > Hi anonymous Abwesend forum member who is pessimistic about DOS ;-) > >> Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. > FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. No offence, FreeDOS is of course a modern project. But DOS is an

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > Original message from Eric Auer, 2016-06-18 19:14: >> Hi anonymous Abwesend forum member who is pessimistic about DOS ;-) >> >>> Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. >> FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. > > No

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM, wrote: > There's just not a lot of sympathy for old hardware anymore. Forced > obsoletion is more fierce than ever, so people are routinely asked to > upgrade (or even

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi :-) Yes, FreeDOS clones DOS and that forces it to support old interfaces... > DR DOS had a multitasker. And MS DOS had limited task swapping in DOSSHELL, yes. If you ask me, it is easier to run multiple virtual DOS windows (DOSEMU, DOSBOX or even complete virtual PC) on modern PC: Those are

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM, wrote: >> >>> Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. >> FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. > > No offence, FreeDOS is of course a modern project. But DOS is an old > conpect for an operating system. But you have to be

Re: [Freedos-user] Games

2016-06-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > > As much as I hate to concede, I must. I have found a critical passage on the FreeDOS website > which, in my eyes, discourages further experimentation: How did it discourage anybody? By giving them total