Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Dale E Sterner
Dennis I'm a little behind the times so can you correct my mistakes here. SSD stands for "solid state drive" which is flash memory with a SATA interface. This should be the same as using a CF chip with a SATA adapter. Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should be unneeded for

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Raymond Bathurst
Using a bootable USB stick 'USBANY' with miscellaneous FreeDOS 1.1 working files on it and following Tom's short notes I made the fixed disk bootable. "Fine". But the nasty sting in my question was how does one install FreeDOS 1.12 on a virgin fixed disk ? The venerable FreeDOS has advanced to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread stecdose
On 11/06/2018 05:34 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should be unneeded for flash since all bits get accessed at the same speed. No spinning disk to move around on. Trim is used for equal usage of memory-cells. It is a mechanism to support

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread stecdose
Tom, this is exactly what I said. To *support* round robin, not to do round robin. Support in the meaning of helping someone/something with a task. Nils On 11/06/2018 07:18 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should be unneeded for flash since all

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! To install FreeDOS on SSD is basically the same as on harddisk. If the disk is totally empty, you will have to use FDISK /MBR or similar to make booting work - just using SYS will not be enough. Otherwise, SSD are almost like fast harddisks. Other differences which exist are not noticed by

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Tom Ehlert
>> Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should >> be unneeded for flash since all bits get accessed at the same speed. >> No spinning disk to move around on. wrong. > Trim is used for equal usage of memory-cells. It is a mechanism to > support round-robin usage of those

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Pär Moberg
One idiot-prof way to install freedos would be by deploying a disk image to the ssd in some automated fashion. In other words, give no options to the user. I have no experience of doing this automatically so I cannot help you there, manually I use dd on Linux to do this when I need to. Den tis 6

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Cuvtixo D
Rayman Bathurst- Hi, -I'm impressed with your cred with CP/M and PDPs. But, maybe you're so experienced that it's difficult to ask questions as a newbie? I mean, did you skip right into Windows from there or do you have any experience with IBM-, MS- or DR-DOS? Also, for example, it's difficult to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Raymond Bathurst
rufus will make a USB or a CF bootable with the PC (which has the fixed SSD). The difficulty is making the fixed SSD bootable. The DOS working files can be copied from a convenient USB stick. For some applications DOS is far faster than the pixel-mapped systems. You don't need a luxurious

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

2018-11-06 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hallo Herr Raymond Bathurst, am Dienstag, 6. November 2018 um 09:51 schrieben Sie: > rufus will make a USB or a CF bootable with the PC (which has the > fixed SSD). The difficulty is making the fixed SSD bootable. The DOS > working files can be copied from a convenient USB stick. For some >