Re: [Freedos-user] AST Research drivers

2011-12-19 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeffrey ellsn...@aol.com wrote:     About a year and a half ago, the last website offering support for AST research computers went down. Because have an AST 80386, I downloaded all the drivers and files before that happened.  Would it be legal for you to

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't boot FreeDOS from Grub2

2011-12-19 Thread dmccunney
upgraded, and it's basically a testbed to see what performance I can wring out of ancient hardware *without* spending money on it. On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:19 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: I know the topic has been discussed here before, but I'm still struggling with this problem

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't boot FreeDOS from Grub2

2011-12-20 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I've had worse pains.  I normally prefer to have each OS on its own drive

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos not booting from Grubfordos2

2011-12-20 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Garry Ricketson garryricket...@hotmail.com wrote: Dennis,  When I installed FreeDos, to a new partition, for it, all I did was after it was installed, at the Linux command line I typed: sudo update-grub  And FreeDos was added to the boot list,..boots fine I

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't boot FreeDOS from Grub2

2011-12-20 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,   (third edit, I really ramble too much) You aren't alone. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: VirtualBox would

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't boot FreeDOS from Grub2

2011-12-21 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: From my point of view, the main factor is that it grabs 16MB of RAM, and I haven't

Re: [Freedos-user] AST driver problem...

2011-12-22 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:48 PM, James Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: It's not an ideal situation for these old drivers, but we need to be careful here. And I'll admit that I'm not sufficiently motivated to comb through all the driver zip files (I assume zip) and read all the Readme License

Re: [Freedos-user] AST driver problem...

2011-12-22 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:11 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:48 PM, James Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: It's not an ideal situation for these old drivers, but we need to be careful

Re: [Freedos-user] AST driver problem...

2011-12-25 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:03 PM 12/22/2011, dmccunney wrote: I repeat, be careful of *what*?  If you get as CD letter from them, you take it down and apologize.  You needn't hire a lawyer or engage in a resource-requiring defense.  Such letters

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Memory

2011-12-27 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Koh Choon Lin 2choon...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Would like to ask how much memory does FreeDOS support, e.g. 4 GiB? It's an open source clone of MS-DOS, which is a 16 bit real mode OS. It can see up to one megabyte of RAM as usable memory. Beyond that, you must

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: The problems encountered strapping a GUI onto a DOS system are similar to the problems that were encountered when object orientation and classes were added to C to create C++.  C++ is really a hybrid language,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 07:39 AM 1/11/2012, dmccunney wrote: Please recall that DesqView, DesqViewX, GEM, and Windows through 9.X were precisely GUIs strapped onto a DOS environment. Just for the record, DesqView is not a GUI, but a text mode

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Why are you assuming said DOS system will be accessed by multiple strangers? For things like FreeDOS, there will be a single user who installs it in the first place and runs it after it is. While it's

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors

2012-01-18 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Formatting something as NTFS doesn't guarantee a proper working on such a USB bridge. Besides, using a reader implies no writing. I use NTFS under Windows. Mark Russinovitch offered a freeware NTFS *reader* for DOS through

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors

2012-01-18 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:31 PM, BretJ bretj...@juno.com wrote: I use NTFS under Windows.  Mark Russinovitch offered a freeware NTFS *reader* for DOS through his old Sysinternals site, and a payware driver that could also *write* to NTFS from DOS through the sister Winternals site. (It was

Re: [Freedos-user] Big bootable disk for CD

2012-01-22 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Bob Cochran bcochra...@verizon.net wrote: Thank you, Bret. I was just able to buy some reasonably priced USB drives and I'll play with installing FreeDOS on these. I too seem to remember that Win98 or Win XP DOS boot disks always boot with an extended memory

Re: [Freedos-user] Big bootable disk for CD

2012-01-22 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM, TJ Edmister damag...@hyakushiki.net wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:07:01 -0500, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: FreeDOS *is* a DOS system, so you'll have the standard DOS limit of 1MB of real memory, and 640KB of conventional memory available

Re: [Freedos-user] Modern Uses For FreeDOS

2012-01-25 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Bob Cochran bcochra...@verizon.net wrote: I am pretty ignorant of how FreeDOS is used by the community as I am sure my previous posts show. I would like to build a better understanding of FreeDOS. What is it used for most commonly? I know it is an operating

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a menu for many options

2012-01-26 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: Anyway, here it is (kind of long).  I can also send it as an e-mail attachment if anyone cares. Probably a good idea in any case. It shows by default in GMail will all line breaks stripped out. For anyone viewing the

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos bug.

2012-01-28 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, hit the wrong key; made this batfile in freedos 1.1: dir dmyy.txt dirdmyy.txt With no change but the source directory, the bat stops after 'dirdmyy.txt' ;pressing enter it will continue; Assuming you exactly

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-02-01 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 1-2-2012 17:56, Manjunath ML schreef: I am trying to use a USB memory disk along with FreeDOS. I am a running a CAM software and need a facility to transfer drawings from other computers to the PC used to run the CAM

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-02-04 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: On Feb 1, 2012 12:46 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: Whether this works will depend upon your BIOS.  The box I have FreeDOS on will boot from a USB floppy drive, but *not* from a USB stick. BIOS limitation.  I

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte

2012-02-08 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Bertho Grandpied y31415926...@yahoo.fr wrote: (albeit much of the additional space is lost slack at the user files level ...) Slack space will be a real issue? I don't see how. Czerno __ Dennis

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte

2012-02-08 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Bertho Grandpied y31415926...@yahoo.fr wrote: dmccunney dennis*** wrote : (albeit much of the additional space is lost slack at  the user files level ...) Slack space will be a real issue?  I don't see how. There would be a net loss for partitions sizes

Re: [Freedos-user] Multimedia Keyboards and Mouse Scroll Wheels

2012-02-15 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. The buzz is all around tablets and touchscreens these days. While I can (barely) see the point, it seems bad for things like text input. But I guess if all you're doing is browsing around or playing (very) simplistic

Re: [Freedos-user] possibly interesting free open software ultradefrag

2012-02-16 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. Who invented defrag? I want to say Norton (etc), but that's probably wrong (though MS did license it from them, right?). John Socha (of NC fame) basically invented the screensaver, Peter Norton basically invented undelete,

Re: [Freedos-user] A tool for CPU-load measurement

2012-03-28 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Zbigniew zbigniew2...@gmail.com wrote: There are various tools for Windows/Linux, which can display actual CPU workload. Since DOS doesn't do multitasking, my guess is, that here external utility won't be of any use. But DOS-program could have it built-in.

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown eufdp...@yahoo.com wrote: as usual, we all need more and better freeware, and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... maybe

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux programs. DOS is a great OS

Re: [Freedos-user] Concerned about a site...

2012-04-09 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM, someone plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Is the way freedos is being used here legal, or have I discovered an abuse? Perfectly legal. All the GPL requires folks using GPLed software to do is provide the sources for the software upon request. There is nothing

Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP: Telnet, TCP, etc.

2012-04-09 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote:    I'm going to just not beat around the bush. I'll and ask it straight out. What the heck are Telnet, TCP and all those other programs that comes with mTCP for? Internet connectivity is done through TCP-IP, a protocol

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-10 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Zbigniew zbigniew2...@gmail.com wrote: At the time of cheap computers, do we really need multiuser OS? It was reasonable 20 years ago, when fast machine was really expensive - but is it still today, when every average user can have his own computer (and - in

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but I still don't find the above comments very reassuring, with regard to the future usability of (Free)DOS on new hardware. The fact that we will be able to run DOS in emulators/virtual machines, because we can no longer

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: But no, it would almost never use '/' because that is the Directory Separator (or whatever you want to call it). Also, '\' is the quote character for the shell, hence My\ File\ Name.txt. Also, I think *nix (or at least

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:54 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: *That* purpose has been unnecessary for decades.  Running in a VM or emulator still lets you *run* DOS and legacy DOS apps, which is all you are likely

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM, BretJ bretj...@juno.com wrote: Some DOS *apps* cared and choked on it, so I wrote Korn shell alias wrappers to reset the option delimiter char to / before running them, and set it back to - when they exited. Like I said, this is why it won't work in the

Re: [Freedos-user] Porting DOS to new processors

2012-04-12 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: At this point the options are to use emulators or to port DOS to new processors (new x86 based or totally different processor family as ARM) For example www.raspberrypi.org is working on a very interesting low priced

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-12 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: 11. April 2012 um 21:23, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote Current machines won't *boot* DOS, but will *run* it in a compatibility box,  emulator or virtual machine. I wonder what you are talking about

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-12 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:23 PM, escape esc...@front.ru wrote: On 11.04.12 22:23, dmccunney wrote: Current machines won't *boot* DOS, but will *run* it in a compatibility box,  emulator or virtual machine. I'm think you're making a bit misleading statement. While there *are* current

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-13 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 5:04 AM, escape esc...@front.ru wrote: On 12.04.12 20:38, dmccunney wrote: I just made a post amending my statement. Ok, but still it has nothing common with DOS itself. Because: I amend my statement: they'll boot DOS if you jump through an assortment of hoops to get

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-13 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: Yes, they do.  But my fundamental question is still valid.  What is your use case?  Do you actually *need* to boot DOS, or is a VM or emulator a better solution? In my case, I do it mostly for speed, but there are other

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-13 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 5:45 PM, BretJ bretj...@juno.com wrote: If you could boot up in only a few seconds, would you turn things off when you weren't using them (not necessarily servers, but clients)? Nope. I run multitasking environments with things happening in the background, and things

Re: [Freedos-user] [SPAM] fwd:

2012-04-15 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Brad Woosley c_brw_2...@yahoo.com wrote: wow this is pretty intense check this out hxxp://www.nbnews15.net/jobs/?employment=0582907 You are pwned. Change your Yahoo password, now. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software

2012-04-17 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br jasse...@itelefonica.com.br wrote: On 9 april Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl said: I'm not sure of DILLO's capabilities.  No javascript yet. And it won't get it for some time. The devs need to add a lot more DOM support before

Re: [Freedos-user] edit partitions through usb.

2012-04-18 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2012/04/18 16:55 (GMT-0400) kurt godel composed: If the EXT2 has something important on it and you don't have Linux installed, boot a live Linux CD an

Re: [Freedos-user] edit partition through usb 3

2012-04-20 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: Amazing; never knew this capability existed in XP: Where *have* you been? :-) (That's in Win2K, too.) 1. )right-click 'my computer'; 2.) click 'storage; 3.) click 'disk management'. shows 'drive 0(C drive) and drive 1(usb

Re: [Freedos-user] Setting up a POP email for gmail

2012-05-06 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all,    I tried (using arachne) to put gmail as my pop3 email thing, but for some reason it won't work. I even turned on the POP3 settings in gmail, but arachne still won't pull from it. Any Ideas? Huh? Arachne

Re: [Freedos-user] GMail and Arachne

2012-05-06 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:18 PM, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br jasse...@itelefonica.com.br wrote: Huh?  Arachne is a browser, not an email client.  It doesn't do POP.  Arachne is also a POP and a SMTP client.  The reason why it is unable to access GMail has been pointed by Ralf:  Arachne does

Re: [Freedos-user] GMail and Arachne

2012-05-07 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it was Javascript that Gmail required?? And Arachne of course doesn't support that. GMail *wants* JavaScript, but can work without it in a reduced capability fashion using basic HTML mode. I've successfully accessed

Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Setup, again

2012-05-17 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Kenny cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: So I've been hearing that DOS needs no drivers for a printer. Well, it's not working for me. If it helps, I have an HP printer. It's not that new, and connects via USB, but other than that, that's all I know. I have no idea

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem

2012-05-20 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On May 20, 2012 12:00 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote Anyway you slice it, that Virtual Box (and probably a few other VMs) are not properly supporting this is rather due to the ignorance of those VM developers and the

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem

2012-05-20 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Ulrich Hansen uhan...@mainz-online.de wrote: Am 20.05.2012 um 20:15 schrieb dmccunney: The number of people who still run DOS is a vanishingly small fraction of the number of people who use computers.  The number who run DOS in a virtual machine is a small

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

2012-06-03 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: In the case of GRUB2 (?) it will then search the PC for bootable operating systems by looking at all boot records and present those as boot menu. Classic GRUB relied more on a configuration file for that, in GRUB2 it is more

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-06-18 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote: Aha! So that's why one of my favorite text editors won't run in some machines; it' the same error message, and it uses the Borland interface too. Which editor? An assortment use the Borland

Re: [Freedos-user] Printer?

2012-07-02 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Kenny cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: I just realized that there is the graphics-ps, graphpin, graph-hp command(s). Could I somehow use those to make FreeDOS run a newer HP printer (one that isn't a dot-matrix)? Depends on what you want to do. Those

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-03 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Jeffrey ellsn...@aol.com wrote: IIRC NT 4.0 included some DOS 5.0 utilities and programs (including edit, debug, etc). Actually, sometime after this, microsoft created a new version of edit that doesn't require qbasic. The earlier version of edit was

Re: [Freedos-user] ? - ?Not sure? - ?

2012-07-14 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: dim ft as single, m as single, answer1 as single, answer2 as single, input1 as string, a as string, b as string Might the mixture of singles and strings in your dim statement be the issue? You are defining your

Re: [Freedos-user] New XFDOS FreeDOS distribution

2012-08-06 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Not tried [ http://qemu.weilnetz.de/w32/2012-06-28/ , QEMU v1.1 I think] yet, I'm too lazy to find out how to download an entire web directory in 1 go. Guess some FireFox extension should allow it. Spiderzilla used to, but

Re: [Freedos-user] Top Posting

2012-08-15 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Garry Ricketson garryricket...@hotmail.com wrote: David Griffith dgri...@cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Re: [Freedos-user] What Language?

2012-08-15 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: What programming language is FreeDOS written in? You can browse the Sourceforge Svn repository at http://freedos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/freedos/kernel/trunk/kernel/ You'll find a mixture of C and Assembler for the

Re: [Freedos-user] Printers

2012-09-04 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: What type of printer interface/language does FreeDOS support? Does it support PCL ver3? For example, would I be able to use an HP Deskjet 950c (

Re: [Freedos-user] Printers

2012-09-05 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: The latest version of Windows always seems to need more computing horsepower than the last one... Not just Windows. I run FreeDOS on an old notebook with an 867mhz Transmeta CPU, an IDE 4 HD, and 256MB of RAM

Re: [Freedos-user] Printers

2012-09-05 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: The latest version of Windows always seems to need more computing

Re: [Freedos-user] Backscroll

2012-09-06 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to make FreeDOS be able to backscroll? Like in CMD, or something where you use the page up and page down keys? Thanks, FreeDOS 1.0 includes an old PC Mag utility called peruse.com. It loads as a TSR and

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-07 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: Is FreeDOS HD access as slow as PC or MS DOS? IIUC, the latter use slow 16 bit BIOS code,

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-07 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:19 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in what Felix is doing and where he sees visible slowness. As you mention, FreeDOS is 16 bit code. But how fast things will appear

Re: [Freedos-user] Backscroll

2012-09-08 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Ivan Shmakov oneing...@gmail.com wrote: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com writes: […] You can get a copy of the PC Mag archive with it and some other things here: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pcmag/v13n07.zip I'd like to note

Re: [Freedos-user] about lfn...?

2012-09-17 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Does freedos have its own long file name utility? Yes. It's a loadable driver. If so, is it close enough to ms dos to be run? It seems to work here. Just curious, the person I know seeking it says they are

Re: [Freedos-user] about lfn...?

2012-09-17 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Hi Dennis, this post made me smile. how command.com is documented vs how it works indeed. I am not sure what edition of freedos is being run, have written to ask. Invite your friend to join us and participate

Re: [Freedos-user] about lfn...?

2012-09-17 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Hi Chris, indeed they are referring to doslfn, but as I am not sure, I have written to ask just what edition. Also which of freedos. they sent me the line they are loading...thoughts? LH DOSLFN

Re: [Freedos-user] my account has been compromised, please watch out for false content!

2012-09-18 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Mark Brown eufdp...@yahoo.com wrote: my account has been compromised, please watch out for false content! I think a lot of Yahoo! accounts got hacked recently. Dunno more They did. beyond

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS packaging rules / paths

2012-09-27 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste-family.net wrote: Another question: how are you storing your files on your FreeDOS systems? As far as I'm concerned, I usually store games in a separate directory, and other stuff under a 'programs' directory. But maybe other

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS packaging rules / paths

2012-09-27 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste-family.net wrote: Marcos, Dennis - thanks for your valuable input. I see with only two answers that we already have two very different point of view (Marcos using a more 'classic' DOS-ish directory structure, while Dennis prefer to

Re: [Freedos-user] News reader

2012-10-17 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Santiago Almenara almen...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a good news reader for DOS I need to subscribe in a news://news.foo.org; server. Look at Yarn: http://www.vex.net/yarn/ Santiago __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519

Re: [Freedos-user] Bruce

2012-11-25 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:47 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, et al, I have reinstalled XP hundreds of times, and I always preformat the XP's partition(usually c) with fat32; this forces the XP install to give the option to install XP on fat32, which I always choose. it may

Re: [Freedos-user] Bruce

2012-11-26 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM, bruce.bowman tds.net bruce.bow...@tds.net wrote: Has anyone tried NTFS4DOS? I had it on a boot CD once that I occasionally used for data recovery, but in that context it was all menu-driven and

Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive

2012-12-11 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote: I hesitate to go for Linux/Samba on the server, firstly because I'm a FreeDOS fan, and secondly because I've been told that a Samba server is not easy to set up. Samba servers aren't that hard to

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 98SE screwing up Freedos 1.1...

2012-12-19 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: First I installed Freedos 1.1 and used the 4x4 NEC cdrom, only the first slot seemed to work, to copy over the Windows 98SE cabinet files. I then proceeded to boot from the 98se cdrom and run setup from the

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos-98

2012-12-19 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Chris Evans aaxiomfin...@gmail.com wrote: why install win98?if the computer is specd for it, install freedos, and then install ubuntu and dual boot between the two. and use wine for windows stuff. Because the intent is to play games that are native for

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos-98

2012-12-19 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 03:32 +, dos386 wrote: I'm not even sure there's a reason to have FreeDOS in the mix. Sure there is, especially if your 98 copy isn't legal. My copy is sort of legal, but I don't

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 98SE and ipxwrapper...

2012-12-25 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:58 PM, mcelha...@usnetizen.com wrote: Just last week I took an old hard drive and installed Windows XP SP3 on this machine, and was surprised to find that it works just fine. My box currently has 384MB of DIMM ram, I would suspect that would be the minimum to try

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 98SE and ipxwrapper...

2012-12-26 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 26-12-2012 5:40, dmccunney schreef: I have an old Fujitsu Lifebook p2110 with an 867mhz Transmeta Crusoe CPU and 256MB RAM (of which the Crusoe grabs 16MB off the top for code morphing.) That morphing and learning

Re: [Freedos-user] Made XP work okay...

2012-12-26 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: 500 MB should be plenty for XP. Seriously, I know software is always increasing requirements, but it's not reasonable (IMO) to need more than that. While I can't say I've ever played Warcraft 2, I don't think it would need much

Re: [Freedos-user] old machines

2012-12-28 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:23 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: XP2 will run in as little as 100 mb. I'll assume you've done so and will take your word for it, but I'm assuming a flexible definition of run. How long did it take to boot? What could you do under it once it had? __ Dennis

Re: [Freedos-user] Made XP work okay...

2012-12-28 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:59 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: XP itself should run in it. The question is apps you will run under XP. As you

Re: [Freedos-user] old machines

2012-12-29 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM, David Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: On 12/28/2012 2:30 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:23 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: XP2 will run in as little as 100 mb. I'll assume you've done so and will take your word

Re: [Freedos-user] old machines

2012-12-29 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:36 PM, David Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: On 12/29/2012 1:31 PM, dmccunney wrote: We sell an industrial data collection machine based on XP that runs in about 80MB of allocated memory. We turn off the server service, themes and a couple others

Re: [Freedos-user] old machines

2012-12-29 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:33 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: On 12/29/2012 dmccunney wrote: ... a chap on the Puppy Linux forums got a working Puppy installation in 16MB RAM. For the following, TUI and GUI interfaces are in use. Heap shows less than 4 MB in use. No malicious software ever

Re: [Freedos-user] Re (2): old machines

2012-12-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:30:53 -0500 The problem is what you *do* with it [Oberon]. My top uses are text editing and email. There are several good tools including Diff text comparator

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2013-01-02 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au wrote: If there was a Linux kernel in which the user could turn off everything that isn't in DOS, that would be a way out. If you could turn off everything that *isn't* in DOS, you might have fun running the Linux kernel. You run

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2013-01-03 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au wrote: On 01/03/2013 12:57 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jim Lemonj...@bitwrit.com.au wrote: If there was a Linux kernel in which the user could turn off everything that isn't in DOS, that would be a way out

Re: [Freedos-user] New Version of DOSUTILS

2013-01-03 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, wiwa64 wiw...@web.de wrote: The new utility INLINE allows to place multi-line data, that is to be fed as input into another program via stdin, directly within the batchfile from which the program is invoked. Users who are familiar with shell programming under

Re: [Freedos-user] old machines

2013-01-08 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Though I'm mostly a noob at Nethack because it's so complicated, heh, so I'm not sure if they're more patient or not. The question with Nethack isn't whether you'll win: it's what novel and interesting way you'll find to get

Re: [Freedos-user] old machines

2013-01-08 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Andrew Robins arob...@fastmail.fm wrote: ...why do I only spot my typos after I post, and not in the 3 re-reads I make befpre pressing 'send'?? ^^^ Like this one? :-) Don't feel bad. I am in the final stages of producing the souvenir book for an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: A protected mode dos like the one under Windows 9x and Windows ME could be interesting and would justifiably deserve a different name like Freedos-32. The problem with a dos environment is that there isn't an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? I'm pretty sure

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? Don't have

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: At the moment, I'm

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early

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