Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Key words are: closed source. Bad idea. There is not much choice around ... The problem is that apps working with SB cards usually do this by accessing hardware ports directly (in/out instructions). You can't hook This is a non-issue affecting legacy crap only ;-) and having a .sys driver to handle these kinds of boards would add a great deal of usability to dos apps NO, a loadable driver usable form PM please ;-) Regarding sound libraries for new apps, I heard there are some around Allegro ? Dead, ISA only :-( DUGL ? Nice attempt, but so far ISA only :-| DOSSOUND ? Closed source, file only so far, but Georg is cooperative about my suggestions :-| DIGPAK ? 15 years old standard, but if someone upgrades it ... maybe :-| SNAP ? Closed source, dead, no docs :-| Import drivers from Windaube (300 KiB native PE .SYS, 10 MiB GUI installer) or Linux (anyone has seen a driver ???) ... MPXPLAY ? Great app, but not a driver, and done in C (I'm not a C programmer) ... -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:21 AM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: Georg Potthast recently released a (closed source) AC97 thing, also upgrading DIGPAK (15 years old) for PCI cards has been suggested. Key words are: closed source. Bad idea. Anybody volunteering to update digipak or write an audio subsystem for FreeDOS? Pat -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Linux has supported ac97 soundcards for years, why can't dos have a .sys driver that can be loaded at boot time to do the same thing? there's a *lot* of motherboards that have ac97 support these days, well over 50%, and having a .sys driver to handle these kinds of boards would add a great deal of usability to dos apps, especially ones that already work directly with sb compatible cards. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Linux has supported ac97 soundcards for years, why can't dos have a .sys driver that can be loaded at boot time to do the same thing? there's a *lot* of motherboards that have ac97 support these days, well over 50%, and having a .sys driver to handle these kinds of boards would add a great deal of usability to dos apps, especially ones that already work directly with sb compatible cards. The problem is that apps working with SB cards usually do this by accessing hardware ports directly (in/out instructions). You can't hook ports as easily as interrupts, so a driver which would provide other sound cards to work as SB would require protected mode. It has been suggested to write the driver as Jemm Loadable Module (JLM) to do this. This could only be loaded by the Jemm386 memory manager. Regards, Christian -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
You talk about old apps that make hardware calls. Also would be interesting a standar sound library for new DOS apps. 2009/5/18, Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de: Linux has supported ac97 soundcards for years, why can't dos have a .sys driver that can be loaded at boot time to do the same thing? there's a *lot* of motherboards that have ac97 support these days, well over 50%, and having a .sys driver to handle these kinds of boards would add a great deal of usability to dos apps, especially ones that already work directly with sb compatible cards. The problem is that apps working with SB cards usually do this by accessing hardware ports directly (in/out instructions). You can't hook ports as easily as interrupts, so a driver which would provide other sound cards to work as SB would require protected mode. It has been suggested to write the driver as Jemm Loadable Module (JLM) to do this. This could only be loaded by the Jemm386 memory manager. Regards, Christian -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 Fax: +58-(212)-2410828 Skype: marcoachury www.geocities.com/marcoachury -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
[...] would add a great deal of usability to dos apps, especially ones that already work directly with sb compatible cards. You talk about old apps that make hardware calls. Also would be interesting a standar sound library for new DOS apps. Yes, I talked about old apps, replying to the previous mail. Regarding sound libraries for new apps, I heard there are some around. Maybe someone else can recommend you some of these. Regards, Christian -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS YES, but it's the bad way of doing :-( You may want to look at the source code for several games to see how it is done. Bad idea, only ISA cards (=15 years old). Look into MPXPLAY source instead. Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ Also only ISA cards (=15 years old) Georg Potthast recently released a (closed source) AC97 thing, also upgrading DIGPAK (15 years old) for PCI cards has been suggested. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Hi , i've tried this using miy notebook on pure dos (psk21 ,rtty,etc..) I use cf31 panasonic toughbook with drivers for his sound card (yamaha). Roberto iw2evk Intercom is a free DOS program by Pier PA3BYZ that since version 4.1 adds PSK31 capability to many other modes. It can use several interfaces, hamcom type, soundcard, etc. Contact Pier via QRZ.com adress for binaries. kurt godel-2 wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurt wb2...@gmail.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Basic-sound-access-in-DOS.-tp23496152p23500712.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Hi , i've tried this using miy notebook on pure dos (psk21 ,rtty,etc..) I use cf31 panasonic toughbook with drivers for his sound card (yamaha). Roberto iw2evk Intercom is a free DOS program by Pier PA3BYZ that since version 4.1 adds PSK31 capability to many other modes. It can use several interfaces, hamcom type, soundcard, etc. Contact Pier via QRZ.com adress for binaries. kurt godel-2 wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurt wb2...@gmail.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Basic-sound-access-in-DOS.-tp23496152p23500812.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
You can try also : FTV for DOS http://ftv.3amsystems.com/samples.htm#REQUIREMENTS System requirements 80386/80486/Pentium CPU MS-DOS 6, Win 3.1, Win95, Win98 Sound Blaster compatible sound card Extended memory (256k minimum, 4096k recommended) SuperVGA graphics card with VESA support (640x480, 256 colours minimum) Supported operating modes Operating Mode Reception Transmission Monochrome WEFAX 60, 90, 100, 120, 180, 240 lpm No Monochrome FAX 60, 90, 100, 120, 180, 240 lpm Yes Colour FAX 120, 240 lpm Yes Monochrome SSTV SC-1 8, 16, 32s Robot 8, 12, 24, 36s Colour SSTV Martin 1, 2, 3, 4 Scottie 1, 2, 3, 4, DX Wrasse SC-2 180s Baudot (RTTY) 45.5, 50, 74.2, 100 baud SITOR-A 100 baud SITOR-B (NAVTEX) 100 baud Morse code (CW) 5-50 wpm Both line rates as well as data rates may be set to non-standard values. iw2evk wrote: Hi , i've tried this using miy notebook on pure dos (psk21 ,rtty,etc..) I use cf31 panasonic toughbook with drivers for his sound card (yamaha). Roberto iw2evk Intercom is a free DOS program by Pier PA3BYZ that since version 4.1 adds PSK31 capability to many other modes. It can use several interfaces, hamcom type, soundcard, etc. Contact Pier via QRZ.com adress for binaries. kurt godel-2 wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurt wb2...@gmail.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Basic-sound-access-in-DOS.-tp23496152p23500830.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Hi Kurt, In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS environments. You may want to look at the source code for several games to see how it is done. Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ . I haven't used it in several years but it seemed to work nicely for the miniITX hardware I was using at the time. Personally, I have not tried any digital modes on FreeDOS. My personal favorite is fldigi which I run mainly under Linux and occasionally under XP. What sort of support were you looking for? Are you thinking of doing some development? Pat On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurtwb2...@gmail.com. -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Hi Kurt, In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS environments. You may want to look at the source code for several games to see how it is done. Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ . I haven't used it in several years but it seemed to work nicely for the miniITX hardware I was using at the time. Personally, I have not tried any digital modes on FreeDOS. My personal favorite is fldigi which I run mainly under Linux and occasionally under XP. What sort of support were you looking for? Are you thinking of doing some development? Pat On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurtwb2...@gmail.com. -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurt wb2...@gmail.com. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
