Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:34 AM,  f4tm...@web.de wrote:

 I simply took another PC, now it works. Got freedos on the hd.

 Only thing that would be neat is USB mouse support. Read about USBMOUSE and
 added
 dos=high
 device=himem.exe
 device=usbaspi.sys
 device=di1000dd.sys
 to FDCONFIG.SYS - unfortunatelly without success.

First of all, where did you read about this? AFAIK, things like
usbaspi.sys and di1000dd.sys are not provided by FreeDOS (probably
for licensing reasons), only third-party sites. I'm not aware of any
good place that recommends these drivers.

 Is a special driver for that 25pin serial interface necessary?

No idea. And USB overall isn't well-supported. The most FreeDOS
supports is Bret's tools, but I can't guarantee it'll work for you.
IIRC, it's old UHCI only. Try it and see.

http://www.bretjohnson.us/
http://bretjohnson.us/programs/usbdos.zip

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-05 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Mike,

 I simply took another PC, now it works. Got freedos on the hd.
 
 Only thing that would be neat is USB mouse support. Read about USBMOUSE and 
 added
 dos=high
 device=himem.exe
 device=usbaspi.sys
 device=di1000dd.sys
 to FDCONFIG.SYS - unfortunatelly without success.
 
 Is a special driver for that 25pin serial interface necessary?

That usbaspi is for usb disks / usb sticks / cd / dvd
di1000dd is also for usb disks / usb sticks, I think.
For cd / dvd, you would also need additional drivers.
And as Rugxulo said, the above may have license issues.

Usbmouse sounds like one of Bret Johnson's drivers:
Read the manual, you probably have to load his USB
core driver before the mouse one. Maybe you also have
to load ctmouse after usbmouse as a third step.

Note that often the BIOS (if you enable USB legacy
support in the CMOS setup) already makes your USB
mouse look (towards DOS) as if it would be a PS/2
mouse, which you can use with ctmouse (try 1.9, 2.0
or 2.1, if one version fails, another one may work)
without having to load any USB drivers :-)

What do you mean by 25 pin serial interface, do you have
an old 9/25 pin COM port mouse somewhere, not just USB?

Regards, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-05 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 MD5 is okay and I burnt it with the slowest speed setting (1x).
 Still the same. From the complete base package not a single one could be 
 installed (There were 68 errors and 0 non-fatal warnings.).

If I have to guess: Maybe the installer is on the
virtual floppy drive and the CD-ROM driver does
not recognize your drive? Do you see any FreeDOS
content on the D: or E: drives? In general, there
should be an area with lots of ZIP files with the
packages on your CD: If the installer has issues,
try telling it where the zips are, or if all else
fails, just unzip the files to the freedos dir on
your target disk (e.g. DOS partition on harddisk)
as unzipping is the main install step anyway. You
will still miss the other installer details done
with the ZIPs, but you will have the contents :-)

Eric

PS: Try setting the controller to which your CD/DVD
or BluRay drive is connected to non-AHCI/non-RAID,
using your BIOS CMOS setup.

 Despite of the failed installation the harddisk seems to be bootable 
 because it complains: Loading FreeDOS No KERNEL   SYS
 I guess I just have to put the right files into the proper folder (C:\FDOS)?
 But which files do I have to copy from the CD? The files from the 
 E:\FREEDOS\PACKAGES folder? Unzip them onto the HD?



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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-05 Thread Don Flowers
If you want to experiment, you may have to customize a floppy specific to
your PC; then re-burn a CD with your floppy image. I had to do this with an
HP Elite 8000. I eliminated the eltorito.sys driver and loaded UIDE and it
worked fine after that. (also had to do a similar workaround with a Compaq
Armada 1700/1750 laptop due to the CD-ROM being a slave).

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:34 AM, f4tm...@web.de wrote:

 I simply took another PC, now it works. Got freedos on the hd.

 Only thing that would be neat is USB mouse support. Read about USBMOUSE and
 added
 dos=high
 device=himem.exe
 device=usbaspi.sys
 device=di1000dd.sys
 to FDCONFIG.SYS - unfortunatelly without success.

 Is a special driver for that 25pin serial interface necessary?


  If I have to guess: Maybe the installer is on the
  virtual floppy drive and the CD-ROM driver does
  not recognize your drive? Do you see any FreeDOS
  content on the D: or E: drives? In general, there
  should be an area with lots of ZIP files with the
  packages on your CD: If the installer has issues,
  try telling it where the zips are, or if all else
  fails, just unzip the files to the freedos dir on
  your target disk (e.g. DOS partition on harddisk)
  as unzipping is the main install step anyway. You
  will still miss the other installer details done
  with the ZIPs, but you will have the contents :-)



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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-05 Thread f4tmike
I simply took another PC, now it works. Got freedos on the hd.

Only thing that would be neat is USB mouse support. Read about USBMOUSE and 
added
dos=high
device=himem.exe
device=usbaspi.sys
device=di1000dd.sys
to FDCONFIG.SYS - unfortunatelly without success.

Is a special driver for that 25pin serial interface necessary?

 
 If I have to guess: Maybe the installer is on the
 virtual floppy drive and the CD-ROM driver does
 not recognize your drive? Do you see any FreeDOS
 content on the D: or E: drives? In general, there
 should be an area with lots of ZIP files with the
 packages on your CD: If the installer has issues,
 try telling it where the zips are, or if all else
 fails, just unzip the files to the freedos dir on
 your target disk (e.g. DOS partition on harddisk)
 as unzipping is the main install step anyway. You
 will still miss the other installer details done
 with the ZIPs, but you will have the contents :-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:59 AM,  f4tm...@web.de wrote:

 I'm getting errors during CD installation of Freedos 1.1 (base + util).

You mean an actual CD-R (or similar) burned with fd11src.iso (40 MB)?
So no virtual machine? Did you verify the md5sum to make sure you
downloaded it correctly?

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/fd11src.md5

2e0ab23bec79ff33071d80ea26f124dc  fd11src.iso

Or maybe you need to reburn it at a slower speed?

 Seems it doesn't find the package:

 ERROR! Failed to install REQUIRED package

Doesn't find what exactly? Or maybe you don't know which piece?

 Path is set to F:\FREEDOS\PACKAGES
 Maybe there's a slash missing at the end but I cannot enter the line (or
 don't know how to).

 What can I do?
 I need that for a very old machine software.

Certainly you don't need full BASE + UTIL at all, only kernel and
shell plus a few other common things. At worst you could do a manual
installation.

So you're trying to run on real hardware? What cpu + RAM? What kind of
software is it, and what does it need (XMS, EMS, DPMI, mouse)?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:22 AM, f4tmike f4tm...@web.de wrote:

 Yes, the fdllrs.iso is burnt on a CD-R. Didn't verify the checksum and
 didn't burn on slowest speed.

Can you check the md5sum of your existing .iso file? Or did you delete
it? On a different machine?

Also, if possible, burn another CD, this time on slowest speed, to
hopefully avoid errors.

 How does a manual installation work?
 Use a linux live CD and copy a few files on the hard disk?

I'm fairly certain that Linux partitions tools (e.g. GParted) can
create FAT partitions. But it won't be bootable without a boot sector,
which usually needs to be created by SYS.COM, usually from DOS itself.
Although Eric Auer did have a Linux version (using Perl?):

http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/specials/sys-freedos-linux.zip

If you have a floppy drive (or can use a USB one), you can use any old
boot disk to fdisk, format, and sys. That's minimal. Then, after that,
yes you can just copy files as needed.

 Yes, it's real hardware. It's an old Fujitsu Siemens Desktop with 500MB
 RAM. Don't got the specs right now.

 Your hints and questions are already a good start. Thanks a lot!

Good luck.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-04 Thread f4tmike
Yes, the fdllrs.iso is burnt on a CD-R. Didn't verify the checksum and 
didn't burn on slowest speed.

How does a manual installation work?
Use a linux live CD and copy a few files on the hard disk?

Yes, it's real hardware. It's an old Fujitsu Siemens Desktop with 500MB 
RAM. Don't got the specs right now.

Your hints and questions are already a good start. Thanks a lot!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-04 Thread f4tmike
MD5 is okay and I burnt it with the slowest speed setting (1x).
Still the same. From the complete base package not a single one could be 
installed (There were 68 errors and 0 non-fatal warnings.).

Despite of the failed installation the harddisk seems to be bootable 
because it complains: Loading FreeDOS No KERNEL   SYS
I guess I just have to put the right files into the proper folder (C:\FDOS)?
But which files do I have to copy from the CD? The files from the 
E:\FREEDOS\PACKAGES folder? Unzip them onto the HD?


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[Freedos-user] Installation Error

2015-03-04 Thread f4tmike
Hello,

I'm getting errors during CD installation of Freedos 1.1 (base + util). 
Seems it doesn't find the package:

ERROR! Failed to install REQUIRED package

Path is set to F:\FREEDOS\PACKAGES
Maybe there's a slash missing at the end but I cannot enter the line (or 
don't know how to).

What can I do?
I need that for a very old machine software.

BR
Mike

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