Re: [Freedos-user] Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:59 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
 todo.txt emm386.txt and emm386.lsm are all outdated
 Not my file, not my file, and fully up to date.
Sorry. Did not mean to annoy you. So: Tom, could you update those files?
Thanks.
I don't know what you're talking about, actually.  The first two aren't in 
EMM386 distribution, so I don't know how they would be official files that 
need to be updated.  And I updated the LSM file.  If they aren't in 
official distribution, you are probably out of luck.

amount of allocateable EMS, namely 256 MB? I mean, would all DOS
extenders be able to allocate extra RAM from XMS when they find out
that VCPI only offers them 256 MB?
So why should I cripple VCPI to make your favorite DOS extender 
happy?  There probably exist bare applications -- and possibly a DOS 
extender though I don't know of any -- which allocate entirely through VCPI 
if it's flagged as available.  Anyway, the DOS/32A version with problems is 
7.2.  I re-checked SourceForge and noticed that there is a 7.33, which was 
not mentioned in their announcements.  Another public BB stated that there 
is a 7.4x, but I don't know what/where it is, if so.  If you track down a 
change list, maybe the answer is there.

 Would of course only affect the
non-outdated DOS extenders. Things like Jazz Jackrabbit (RTM) would
not gain anything from having more than 256 MB RAM available anyway...
As far as RTM.  I figured out the problem with AUGOS.  If I slowdown my 
computer to 20% normal, the failure (in the Turbo Pascal compiled code) is 
avoided, apparently the infamous runtime error 200 related to machine speed 
is widely suffered.  At 20% speed AUGOS runs OK under both EMM386 2.01 and 
pure HIMEM with 448M extended memory free.  Both TD and TLINK used an 
updated version of RTM which runs okay in either circumstance, as well.

That Raptor (DOS/16M) not enough memory (XMIN) error showed up
again, and yet again using RAP /? made it go away. No idea why,
but as long as it works... :-).
I'll look at Raptor if you tell me where to get it.  Otherwise, I'm still 
not seeing the problems you are reporting with bare HIMEM and RTM and 
nothing new with EMM386 2.01.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Hall
Michael Devore wrote:
At 02:59 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
 todo.txt emm386.txt and emm386.lsm are all outdated
 Not my file, not my file, and fully up to date.
Sorry. Did not mean to annoy you. So: Tom, could you update those files?
Thanks.

I don't know what you're talking about, actually.  The first two aren't 
in EMM386 distribution, so I don't know how they would be official files 
that need to be updated.  And I updated the LSM file.  If they aren't in 
official distribution, you are probably out of luck.

BTW, I really appreciate it when contributors include an up-to-date LSM 
file in their releases (like Michael has) so I can post it on the 
FreeDOS.org site.  Makes updates a lot easier.

:-)
-jh
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[Freedos-user] Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-02 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Michael, big cheers for those bugfixes! Things work a lot
better now :-)). Still not perfect, though...

All my testings below were done without /max=... in HIMEM,
so roughly 192 - (56+1) = 135 MB of XMS were free when I
reached the prompt, less if EMM386 loaded but pool sharing
disabled, of course.

1. EMM386 X=TEST VDS EMM=32640
   gcube, mft, zip, jazz jackrabbit, raptor, ctstoast, lemmings 3d demo
   all work. In other words: PMODE/W, general EMS stress test (bench),
   CWSDPMI, RTM/DPMI16BI, DOS/16M, DOS32A, DOS/4GW are all happy.
   Did not test Descent (dos4gw/dos32a) and AuGoS (rtm) explicitly now.
   Remaining PROBLEM: Lemmings 3d hangs right before returning to DOS.

2. EMM386 X=TEST VDS
   Still everything as above :-). Pool sharing now on, though. I got
   an unreproduceable not enough XMIN from Raptor which went away
   when I did rap /? to figure out how to avoid it, even though /?
   officially has no effect in Raptor. The L3d hang was still there.
   Notice: DOS32A uses 50 MB, DOS4GW uses 32276 kB in Descent -verbose.

3. No EMM386 at all
   The RTM / DPMI16BI programs RTM and AuGoS spontaneously reboot at
   init. As checked earlier, it only seems to help to use HIMEM /max=?
   with ? being something like 31744, something about 32 MB addres
   space. Different to Aladdin, /X2MAX32 alone does not seem to help...
   Lemmings 3d does not work without EMS, by the way.
   Apart from the RTM problem, I notice a typical DOS4GW crash (which I
   remember to have happened long ago, maybe DOS4GW gets confused above
   64 MB of XMS free when no VCPI is present)... Loading with DOS32A is
   okay (168 MB RAM used and still okay, when testing with less RAMDISK
   size...! I mean 168 MB used by DOS32A.). The DOS4GW crash log tells:
   GPF at 3e58:24d7 (typical offset), esi=5b30 (1 above ES limit),
   edi=56cc, eax=ecx=c000, ebx=edx=16c, es=198 etc. etc.

Apart from the above test results, there are documentation issues:
todo.txt emm386.txt and emm386.lsm are all outdated, some even telling
(still) that there is no VCPI yet and a 64 MB limit and that FDXMS would
be unsupported because it would have a bug, and so on... :-P :-).

Eric



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