Re: [Freedos-user] SATA DOS Drivers
I'm still using FreeDOS 0.84 (I know it's quite old) with some DELL computers. In DELL PC Bios, some offer pure SATA or combined SATA/IDE. If pure SATA is enabled, FreeDOS 0.84 is unable to see those hard disks. Is this changed in the newest version of FreeDOS? I've seen no mention in homepage, nothing in Wiki. When I made a search in home page, that gives http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=gcdrom but I have no idea what that means. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 04:50, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any SATA driver available on DOS can access SATA hard drivers? What's the problem? BIOS usually supports SATA. Use IDECHECK to test the performance before complaining. The long answer is that drivers such as UIDE which Bernd mentioned and which can be found on http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html may give you faster than BIOS access to your SATA harddisk. Even longer: those drivers may speed up access to BIOS-visible disks only, they won't find disks not visible to BIOS. Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5 No it doesn't, and doesn't work in FreeDOS either. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web Spend less time with obsolete proprietary stuff ;-) Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb Beta what??? The link is broken, anyway :-D -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SATA DOS Drivers
Thanks very much, so it looks like I don't need to care about the SATA drivers. Eric On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any SATA driver available on DOS can access SATA hard drivers? What's the problem? BIOS usually supports SATA. Use IDECHECK to test the performance before complaining. The long answer is that drivers such as UIDE which Bernd mentioned and which can be found on http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html may give you faster than BIOS access to your SATA harddisk. Even longer: those drivers may speed up access to BIOS-visible disks only, they won't find disks not visible to BIOS. Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5 No it doesn't, and doesn't work in FreeDOS either. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web Spend less time with obsolete proprietary stuff ;-) Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb Beta what??? The link is broken, anyway :-D -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SATA DOS Drivers
Thanks, mate. However, is there any special configurations on DOS or BIOS? Regards, Eric On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Lee Eric, Is there any SATA driver available on DOS can access SATA hard drivers? The short answer is that you do not need one: You may have experienced that older versions of Windows cannot see your SATA drives. This problem does not affect DOS, because DOS simply uses your BIOS to access drives. The long answer is that drivers such as UIDE which Bernd mentioned and which can be found on http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html may give you faster than BIOS access to your SATA harddisk. This is as today, the BIOS is often only used for booting, so it can happen that speed is not optimal. This can also be the case for USB sticks, flash drives, memory cards and card readers and other things which you can boot from with a modern BIOS - the speed in particular on USB can be low. Bret Johnson and Georg Potthast both have DOS USB drivers to solve that problem, but I think only Bret's driver can do USB 2.0 speeds. Also, I am not sure whether UIDE works in AHCI mode. I also think no DOS driver yet uses the NCQ system where modern multitasking operating systems queue multiple concurrent read/write requests and let the disk itself decide how to process them in an efficient order. Eric PS: The related xcdrom, gcdrom and gxcdrom drivers, plus maybe again UIDE, also support ATAPI and SATA CD/DVD/BD. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] SATA DOS Drivers
Hi all, Is there any SATA driver available on DOS can access SATA hard drivers? Thanks. Eric -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SATA DOS Drivers
Op 10-10-2010 13:34, Lee Eric schreef: Is there any SATA driver available on DOS can access SATA hard drivers? http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html has listed some SATA drivers, see if that works out for you. Bernd -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SATA DOS Drivers
Hi Lee Eric, Is there any SATA driver available on DOS can access SATA hard drivers? The short answer is that you do not need one: You may have experienced that older versions of Windows cannot see your SATA drives. This problem does not affect DOS, because DOS simply uses your BIOS to access drives. The long answer is that drivers such as UIDE which Bernd mentioned and which can be found on http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html may give you faster than BIOS access to your SATA harddisk. This is as today, the BIOS is often only used for booting, so it can happen that speed is not optimal. This can also be the case for USB sticks, flash drives, memory cards and card readers and other things which you can boot from with a modern BIOS - the speed in particular on USB can be low. Bret Johnson and Georg Potthast both have DOS USB drivers to solve that problem, but I think only Bret's driver can do USB 2.0 speeds. Also, I am not sure whether UIDE works in AHCI mode. I also think no DOS driver yet uses the NCQ system where modern multitasking operating systems queue multiple concurrent read/write requests and let the disk itself decide how to process them in an efficient order. Eric PS: The related xcdrom, gcdrom and gxcdrom drivers, plus maybe again UIDE, also support ATAPI and SATA CD/DVD/BD. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
