Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP - A better solution for moving files on the LAN
On 18/06/2015 00:32, John Hupp wrote: Now I have found mTCP, available in the FreeDOS install CD's Net collection, or in a newer version from developer Michael Brutman's web site at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ In fact, as Rugxulo pointed out already, the versions are the same. On Mike's website the file download name is slightly misleading, since it reads mTCP_2013-05-23.zip, while it contains in fact a set of mTCP tools versioned as 2013-04-26. Hence yes, the version mirrored on iBiblio (and FDNPKG, which you seem to have used) are the same than the 'official' one from Mike, even though they might give the impression to be a month older. Or Michael forgot to update the version strings in his last release maybe? But I was unable to find *any* reference to 2013-05-23 in all the text files shipped with mTCP, so I suppose it's rather simply a mistyped filename. Mateusz -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP - A better solution for moving files on the LAN
Hi, On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:32 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com wrote: Now I have found mTCP, available in the FreeDOS install CD's Net collection, or in a newer version from developer Michael Brutman's web site at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ It's not newer, it's the same one: 1). http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=mtcp 2). http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP_2013-05-23_upx.zip 3). http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/net/mtcp/mTCP_2013-05-23_upx.zip For use behind a hardware firewall (my router), I just set it up to do anonymous FTP with read/write access to the entire file system, then I just run it as needed. (It's not a TSR, so you can't do anything else while it's running.) I've never tried this particular functionality. I think he warns against it (implying you should be very careful), but it does (IIRC) support shelling out while running. From my Windows machine, I just use Windows Explorer or a web browser and open ftp://IP-address-of-the-server. There's also a Win32 command-line version of FTP under %windir%\System32\ftp.exe . You might also be able to use Necromancer's DOS Navigator (NDN), but it's been a few years since I tried FTP with that. 1). http://ndn.muxe.com(not loading, sigh) 2a). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilfile/navigatr.exe 2b). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilfile/navigatw.exe Reportedly you can use its DHCP client for anything else that needs it, but I don't know how to do that. This may be of interest to me as I turn to get reacquainted with Arachne. I don't know whether it has its own DHCP client or another provision. Most other apps seem to use Watt-32, e.g. Wget or Links2 or similar DJGPP stuff. IIRC, you first have to set WATTCP.CFG=c:\utils with WATTCP.CFG there containing my_ip = dhcp (or similar). That's what I do under my MetaDOS floppy, with packet driver, and it works. There's also m2wat.c , which someone whipped up a few months ago. https://www.mail-archive.com/freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg15414.html -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP - A better solution for moving files on the LAN
OK, Rugxulo, thanks for the clarification and further tips. On 6/17/2015 7:29 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:32 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com wrote: Now I have found mTCP, available in the FreeDOS install CD's Net collection, or in a newer version from developer Michael Brutman's web site at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ It's not newer, it's the same one: 1). http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=mtcp 2). http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP_2013-05-23_upx.zip 3). http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/net/mtcp/mTCP_2013-05-23_upx.zip For use behind a hardware firewall (my router), I just set it up to do anonymous FTP with read/write access to the entire file system, then I just run it as needed. (It's not a TSR, so you can't do anything else while it's running.) I've never tried this particular functionality. I think he warns against it (implying you should be very careful), but it does (IIRC) support shelling out while running. From my Windows machine, I just use Windows Explorer or a web browser and open ftp://IP-address-of-the-server. There's also a Win32 command-line version of FTP under %windir%\System32\ftp.exe . You might also be able to use Necromancer's DOS Navigator (NDN), but it's been a few years since I tried FTP with that. 1). http://ndn.muxe.com(not loading, sigh) 2a). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilfile/navigatr.exe 2b). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilfile/navigatw.exe Reportedly you can use its DHCP client for anything else that needs it, but I don't know how to do that. This may be of interest to me as I turn to get reacquainted with Arachne. I don't know whether it has its own DHCP client or another provision. Most other apps seem to use Watt-32, e.g. Wget or Links2 or similar DJGPP stuff. IIRC, you first have to set WATTCP.CFG=c:\utils with WATTCP.CFG there containing my_ip = dhcp (or similar). That's what I do under my MetaDOS floppy, with packet driver, and it works. There's also m2wat.c , which someone whipped up a few months ago. https://www.mail-archive.com/freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg15414.html -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP - A better solution for moving files on the LAN
On 6/17/2015 3:32 PM, John Hupp wrote: In the thread [Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied], I was working hard trying to get the MS-DOS Network Client working with a Vista machine. It was a solution I had used in past years for moving files between the FreeDOS client and a Windows machine on the LAN. But it doesn't work with a Windows Vista or newer server. Well, due to changes in the SMB specs, this is not a DOS specific problem, it won't work between Vistanewer and any Windows version before Windows 2000 neither. Connecting to a remote host that runs up to Windows XP/Windows Server 2003 should work just fine... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] mTCP - A better solution for moving files on the LAN
In the thread [Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied], I was working hard trying to get the MS-DOS Network Client working with a Vista machine. It was a solution I had used in past years for moving files between the FreeDOS client and a Windows machine on the LAN. But it doesn't work with a Windows Vista or newer server. Besides that, it is an awful memory hog. Now I have found mTCP, available in the FreeDOS install CD's Net collection, or in a newer version from developer Michael Brutman's web site at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ This is a suite that includes a DHCP client and an FTP server, among other applications. Everything is tiny and fast. For initial installation of the newer version, the whole suite fits on a floppy with room to spare. For use behind a hardware firewall (my router), I just set it up to do anonymous FTP with read/write access to the entire file system, then I just run it as needed. (It's not a TSR, so you can't do anything else while it's running.) From my Windows machine, I just use Windows Explorer or a web browser and open ftp://IP-address-of-the-server. Reportedly you can use its DHCP client for anything else that needs it, but I don't know how to do that. This may be of interest to me as I turn to get reacquainted with Arachne. I don't know whether it has its own DHCP client or another provision. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP - A better solution for moving files on the LAN
Rugxulo - I'm pretty sure that John was using the FTP server on his machine, not the FTP client. The FTP server has no shell to dos capability - that is only really needed/useful in the client. For the most part it is safe to do; just don't take too long. In general FTP servers are not sending unsolicited messages so if the client is dormant because it is in the DOS shell, then the server doesn't know any better. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
