Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hello, On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 11:27, wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> >> Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? >> > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. > > > Wow, this is an old thread (over 3 years)! > Well I am a little behind on

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

On 6/7/2023 3:44 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: > Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess > knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we don't use the American keyboard layout.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Aitor, > On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:19 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello Jerome, > > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel > wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Wow, this is an

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hello Jerome, On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Aitor ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

On at 2020-05-29 20:54 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > There may have been a bug in older FreeDOS boot sectors requiring > 186?? But I thought that was fixed (by ecm). I don't think I ever contributed to the boot sector loaders. I actually checked but there doesn't seem to be any such contribution.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:04 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > I guess you could save some disk space by merging some of the > > tools into fewer, more versatile tools, due to cluster sizes? > > Sure, I “could do that”. But, I’m not going

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:26 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On May 24, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > The extremely limited number of > machines out there that can run FreeDOS and don’t have EGA or > better graphics makes this a very low priority. Didn't Mateusz lightly patch and

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi, On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:56 AM Deposite Pirate wrote: > > May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why > > I limit my ASM code to > > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi, > On May 25, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 25/05/2020 17:29, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > Svarog86 is a FreeDOS distribution that uses the kernl86.sys. Works on my > 8086 with no troubles, although it

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

On 25/05/2020 17:29, Jerome Shidel wrote: I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. Svarog86 is a FreeDOS distribution that uses the kernl86.sys. Works on my 8086 with no troubles, although it has a few things turned off (for memory saving, not 8086

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi Eric, > On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> I thought you knew [that V8 means V8 Power Tools] Anyhow... > > Me maybe, but some who are interested in floppy distros not yet ;-) > >> They are a set of command line utilities written in assembly that >> can

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

May 25, 2020 5:30 PM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > I agree and have said several times, Emulation is not Hardware. > > I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > But, as I said, the one tester in the IIRC had been running it on the NEC v30 > w/a 80186. Did a CPU >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi, > On May 25, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Deposite Pirate wrote: > > I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot > with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have > yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that don't work with PCem's 1512 emulation that should. I couldn't get a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi Jerome, > I thought you knew [that V8 means V8 Power Tools] Anyhow... Me maybe, but some who are interested in floppy distros not yet ;-) > They are a set of command line utilities written in assembly that > can provide a Text based User Interface (TUI) and other... I guess you could save

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Eric > On May 24, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > what is V8PT and which beyond-text features does it need? I thought you knew this… Anyhow... V8PT (occasionally just V8) is short for V8Power Tools for DOS. They are a set of command line utilities written in

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why I > limit my ASM code to > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone has > had success booting the > FreeDOS kernel was a 80186. FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Jerome, what is V8PT and which beyond-text features does it need? If the FreeDOS kernel does not boot on 8086, that would definitely be a bug. Remember that it is a compile time option whether you want 8086 compatible or whether it is okay to optimize for 186 / 286 / 386. I do not think we

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Eric, > On May 23, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >  > Hi Jerome, > >> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ > > The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > >> FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Jerome, > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition > > Work on FreeDOS 1.3 has slowed since FreeDOS 1.3-RC2, but things are >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in German news...

Hello, look at this german news ;-) http://www.computerwoche.de/knowledge_center/linux/581170/ geeting Michael Vogl - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in the news

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, the standard C compiler is OpenWatcom, and the standard assembler is NASM. Both are Free Software. Did I miss something? Imre OpenWatcom is free and supports OS/2(eCS), Windows and DOS. http://www.openwatcom.org Sory for this extremely late answer, but

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in the news

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sory for this extremely late answer, but what i meant was: when did the FreeDOS spec get changed? Imre Such a change would be news to me. To my knowledge the standard is still Borland C++ 3.10 and TASM, or Turbo C++ 1.01 and Arrowsoft ASM for a lower denominator that's

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in the news

Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sory for this extremely late answer, but what i meant was: when did the FreeDOS spec get changed? Imre Such a change would be news to me. To my knowledge the standard is still Borland C++ 3.10 and TASM, or Turbo C++ 1.01 and

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in the news

Yup, Jeremy is right in his recollection. The FreeDOS Spec is out of date (as has been pointed out before) and needs to be updated. There was a general discussion on the FreeDOS lists a while back, after OpenWatcom became available, that OW was largely compatible with BC code, and the only