Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Backspace

2013-01-14 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 01/13/13 22:21, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

 scan   ascii   key
0   8 backspace

0  27 del  -- two codes
0  126


This is correct.  ^H also returns the cursor to the upper left with no 
erase.

The machine is an ARM Elan 520 SBC with the console on com2, selected bu 
jumper.

I can boot General Software Embedded DOS on this machine.  At the 
command prompt, it behaves as I would expect, backspace erases the 
previous character, del deletes the line.

I can boot FreeBSD 9.0 (nanoBSD) on the machine.  Backspace and delete 
act properly, the same as GDOS.

I was looking for a 32-bit platform with little or no overhead, so I 
tried FreeDOS, again.

Tom Dean

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Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Backspace

2013-01-14 Thread john s wolter
Interesting idea to have an ARM based FreeDOS.

I've notice a change in the Subject title for this thread.  It now reads
Re: [Freedos-user] *[Spam]* Backspace.  I wanted to ask is someone in the
thread modified the Subject text.   If not it may be that my EMail service
made the change.  If so I'll have a major Hissy-Fit with them.

Cheers
John S Wolter

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.orgwrote:

 On 01/13/13 22:21, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
 
  scan   ascii   key
 0   8 backspace
 
 0  27 del  -- two codes
 0  126
 

 This is correct.  ^H also returns the cursor to the upper left with no
 erase.

 The machine is an ARM Elan 520 SBC with the console on com2, selected bu
 jumper.

 I can boot General Software Embedded DOS on this machine.  At the
 command prompt, it behaves as I would expect, backspace erases the
 previous character, del deletes the line.

 I can boot FreeBSD 9.0 (nanoBSD) on the machine.  Backspace and delete
 act properly, the same as GDOS.

 I was looking for a 32-bit platform with little or no overhead, so I
 tried FreeDOS, again.

 Tom Dean


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Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Backspace

2013-01-13 Thread Henrique Peron
Hi Tom,

does this happen while using other software as well?

Henrique

Em 13/01/2013 16:56, Thomas D. Dean escreveu:
 I use either minicom or gtkterm to communicate with FreeDOS.

 Everything seems to work Ok, except I cannot use backspace or delete.

 Both keys do strange things.  For example, when using gtkterm, backspace
 sends the cursor to the top left, without erasing.

 Any ideas?

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Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Backspace

2013-01-13 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 01/13/13 18:28, Henrique Peron wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 does this happen while using other software as well?


I have not tried other terminal emulators - I will try tip tomorrow...

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Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Backspace

2013-01-13 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote:
 On 01/13/13 18:28, Henrique Peron wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 does this happen while using other software as well?

 I have not tried other terminal emulators - I will try tip tomorrow...

I think the question was Do you see this issue in other software you
access through the terminal emulator?

On a PC keyboard, when you press a key, a scan code is generated
indicating the position of the key that was pressed.  The OS maintains
a map of scan codes and what those keys are mapped to.  (On
DOS/Windows, the maps are code pages.)

Backspace is Control-H, or ASCII 8.  Del is the rubout character, or
ASCII 127.  (On *nix systems, this is generally mapped to ^[3~, the
VT-220 Delete key escape code.)

Your terminal emulator is apparently diddling these values before
passing them through to FreeDOS, and you need to find out how to stop
it doing so.  This is a terminal emulator issue, not a FreeDOS
problem.

See what happens if you use xterm instead of gtkterm or minicom.

 Tom Dean
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Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Backspace

2013-01-13 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 01/13/13 21:46, dmccunney wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org 
 wrote:

 I think the question was Do you see this issue in other software you
 access through the terminal emulator?

Oops,

I am communicating with FD11 via a com port that is the console on the 
TS5700.

I have not seem problems of this nature when communicating with 
applications on AVR processors.

I used MSDOS 622 on the same machine with no problem.

With FD11, I used keycode and see, from memory - I will try it again 
tomorrow to see the exact output from keycode.  BTW, after starting 
keycode, escape or F1 returned me to the command prompt - I had to 
cycle power.

scan   ascii   key
  0   8 backspace

  0  27 del  -- two codes
  0  126

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