Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Ray Davison schreef: > Eric Auer wrote: >> This happens because you selected a package which tries to >> use the internet to download further files. Sorry guys, that I denied this topic, but this sounds somewhat strange to me, since I was able to successfully install FreeDOS 1.0, (the full Blair distribution), without a Internet connection at all. I admit that the post install script, starts complaining about a NIC and keeps on searching for a DHCP "handshake", but you can simply deny that. I even changed my 3COM Etherlink III ISA NIC for a Realtec based PCI NIC later and was able to set it up without a glitch, using Georg Potthast's Nicscan: http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm Don't worry, just stay cool, since as far as I concern, FreeDOS/OpenGEM simply works great. My advice is, if the installer starts complaining, just ignore it. And no, I'm not one of the coders, just an ordinary (l)user ;-) -- |_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin |_|_|0| http://ml2mst.googlepages.com |0|0|0| http://osgeex.blogspot.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Hi Ray, > If install is unable to create an Internet connection, why does it > try to use one? The machine was physically connected to the router > at the time. Because the installer does not "think" enough. I guess it would not even exclude attempts to connect if your system had no network card. But then, the attempt would probably fail instead of waiting forever. I think especially DOS computers should not be assumed to be online during install anyway - you can add "download further nonfree drivers" as an option, but it should not be active by default, not even if you select "install everything". Compare to Ubuntu: Nonfree stuff is not on there by default either, even though many users do probably want to use the closed source ATI or nVidia graphics drivers :-). > install seems to be subdivided by functional area, and that is good. Yes, a handfull areas. Might be subdivided a bit more but is quite okay as it is now... > is there any way to skip an entire page without unchecking each > individual item? There should be an option "uncheck all", right. But the only thing that I know for now is that you have install options such as "base" or "all" defined in terms of "which pages are installed", plus in addition each page has a default set of selected choices. So what you / we can do is to make a third set (beyond BASE and FULL) which excludes a page of "manual add-ons", possibly with a setting "show the page but with all choices unchecked". It would be nice if you or an installer expert as Bernd or Blair could browse through the installer config files to find out how this can be best implemented. > description of the page as a whole and a skip-page choice would be good. As said, a button "uncheck all" would work just as well :-) Or of course some manual way to select which pages to use, maybe this already exists in some yet unused config option? Did you try all menu items which sound like "custom install"? Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Eric Auer wrote: > > This happens because you selected a package which tries to > use the internet to download further files. TY. If install is unable to create an Internet connection, why does it try to use one? The machine was physically connected to the router at the time. The install seems to be subdivided by functional area, and that is good. But, is there any way to skip an entire page without unchecking each individual item? A description of the page as a whole and a skip-page choice would be good. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Hi Ray, > FreeDOS 1.0 CD > Wattcp.cfg Setup Menu > It hangs at: > Configuring through DHCP... This happens because you selected a package which tries to use the internet to download further files. It is a bit silly that the installer does not warn you about that. See: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall You can find a list of internet-using packages here: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies >From the "dependencies" page: The following packages need internet connection DURING INSTALL, cdrtool only indirectly because it recommends ASPI install: * fprot wattcp (fprot antivirus UTIL, big download) * aspi wget (aspi DRIVER) * scsi wget (scsi DRIVER) * usbdos wget (usb DRIVER, device detection can be very slow) * via wget (via sound DRIVER) Those only RECOMMEND packages which require internet during install: * cdrtool cwsdpmi (cdrecord and related MEDIA tools) * cdrtool &dfl &zisofs &aspi * dfl cdrtool (file linker UTIL for cdrecord) The following packages are internet related, but Lynx, Arachne, HXRT and Lnxsmal are also useful without internet: * crynwr (the network packet DRIVER(s), card detection can be slow) * wget wattcp * fdstpop wattcp * bsflite cwsdpmi wattcp * lnxsmal lynx lynxexx * lynx cwsdpmi wattcp &gnufile * lynx &mouskey &lynxex &lnxsmal * openxp cwsdpmi wattcp tar gzip * vnc wattcp * hxrt &wattcp * wattcp &cwsdpmi &crynwr (network, detection can be slow) * arachne &cwsdpmi &crynwr Various other dependencies - note that OWATCOM is very big: * xharbor owatcom ... * fdpkg infozip or 7zip, and command or 4dos * opengem ctmouse choice infozip fdapm ... If you want a smaller but almost complete install, avoid: OpenWatcom C/C++ (owatcom), XHarbour (xharbor), kraptor, doom, vi (vimrt/vim16/vim32), maybe FreePascal (fpascal) Then you might even manage to install on less than 100 MB ;-) Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Ray Davison wrote: > FreeDOS 1.0 CD > Also, the make boot floppy item, didn't. It just took a readable disk and made it unreadable. The disk was in A:, and it complained that it couldn't read old info off B: Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user