Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-31 Thread Florian Xaver
 That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY to
 play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done? I was
 going to look at the manual but I haven't had time, and I didn't remember
 seeing it in there before when I looked, so forgive me if I just missed it.


Yes, I am using it everytime... since I am not using my normal PC I am
not sure but search -X in the manual (there are some options with
-X... , one should it be.)

Bye
 Flo

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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-31 Thread Skyler Orlando
Yep, I looked in the manual and there are actually several options to do
that. -db will open a regular MPXPLAY... window, or whatever, without the
file browser, and then close when the playlist/files are done playing; then
there's another one, I forget what, that stops it after a certain number of
tracks. Thanks. :)

Skyler

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Florian Xaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY
 to
  play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done? I
 was
  going to look at the manual but I haven't had time, and I didn't remember
  seeing it in there before when I looked, so forgive me if I just missed
 it.


 Yes, I am using it everytime... since I am not using my normal PC I am
 not sure but search -X in the manual (there are some options with
 -X... , one should it be.)

 Bye
  Flo

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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-28 Thread Skyler Orlando
Thanks for your answer, Eric.

I tried disabling CDRCACHE, but it didn't make a difference. It's a pretty
low-end laptop, so I wouldn't be surprised if the CD drive was too slow. I
actually wondered about that after I sent the email.

I guess I'll just have to rip the CD to MP3 on a different computer, then
copy it to the hard drive to play the CDs. It seems to copy data OK.

That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY to
play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done? I was
going to look at the manual but I haven't had time, and I didn't remember
seeing it in there before when I looked, so forgive me if I just missed it.
:)

Skyler
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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-28 Thread Chris Schumann
Let's see... to play audio, a CD drive has to read at 1x. I doubt
the drive is too slow. It should be possible to have the hardware in
the drive play audio, but if it's extracting data and playing through
the sound card, that's going to take IDE, memory and I/O bandwidth,
and that could easily be a problem on an old machine.

However, if it's old enough to have that problem, it may be slow to
play an MP3 file too. MP3 playback requires about a 75MHz Pentium
doing nothing else, IIRC.

Chris


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Skyler Orlando
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your answer, Eric.

 I tried disabling CDRCACHE, but it didn't make a difference. It's a pretty
 low-end laptop, so I wouldn't be surprised if the CD drive was too slow. I
 actually wondered about that after I sent the email.

 I guess I'll just have to rip the CD to MP3 on a different computer, then
 copy it to the hard drive to play the CDs. It seems to copy data OK.

 That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY to
 play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done? I was
 going to look at the manual but I haven't had time, and I didn't remember
 seeing it in there before when I looked, so forgive me if I just missed it.
 :)

 Skyler

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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-28 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 I guess I'll just have to rip the CD to MP3 on a different computer

You can also rip on the same computer - no problem if it takes
longer than the playing time of the CD. But rip to OGG, it is
a more free format :-).

 That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY
 to play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done?

You should look at the manual, it is quite possible that it works ;-)
I mean mpxplay even supports printer port attached LCD displays... :-)

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-28 Thread Skyler Orlando
MP3s play just fine, from the hard drive. I don't recall if they play
properly from the CD or not. I'm thinking they were still jerky, but I'll
check to make sure this evening.

Skyler

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Chris Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Let's see... to play audio, a CD drive has to read at 1x. I doubt
 the drive is too slow. It should be possible to have the hardware in
 the drive play audio, but if it's extracting data and playing through
 the sound card, that's going to take IDE, memory and I/O bandwidth,
 and that could easily be a problem on an old machine.

 However, if it's old enough to have that problem, it may be slow to
 play an MP3 file too. MP3 playback requires about a 75MHz Pentium
 doing nothing else, IIRC.

 Chris


 On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Skyler Orlando
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for your answer, Eric.
 
  I tried disabling CDRCACHE, but it didn't make a difference. It's a
 pretty
  low-end laptop, so I wouldn't be surprised if the CD drive was too slow.
 I
  actually wondered about that after I sent the email.
 
  I guess I'll just have to rip the CD to MP3 on a different computer, then
  copy it to the hard drive to play the CDs. It seems to copy data OK.
 
  That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY
 to
  play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done? I
 was
  going to look at the manual but I haven't had time, and I didn't remember
  seeing it in there before when I looked, so forgive me if I just missed
 it.
  :)
 
  Skyler

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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

2008-08-24 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Skyler,

 When I try to play an audio CD with MPXPLAY, it skips frequently and
 CDRCACHE displays an error message which takes over the screen unless
 I turn it (CDRCACHE) on quiet mode. The error message is
 CDRCACHE: raw/RedBook not cached 0001.

Interesting. MPXPLAY uses the general raw cdrom driver interface :-)
Actually you do not HAVE to read the raw data to play it - you can
also tell the cdrom drive to play audio itself. However, the latter
only works if you have a connection between your cd/dvd drive and
your soundcard plugged in. So MPXPLAY prefers to fetch the data as
data and then turn it into sound data for the soundcard instead...
My tiny cdrom2ui player for example uses soundcard cable style.

 It repeats this message over and over, ad nauseum, making a mess of
 my display. I suspect the two problems are connected (skipping and
 the error message) and they probably have something to do with not
 having enough memory; am I correct? Is there an update I can install
 to fix the problem, or will I need to upgrade my hardware?

This should not be related to memory... Does the skipping stop
when you set cdrcache to quiet mode? If your cdrcache device is
CDRCACH$ then you would say echo Q  CDRCACH$ for that, but
you can also try echo 0  CDRCACH$ to disable the cache while
using MPXPLAY (you can re-enable it with echo 1  CDRCACH$).

Other useful cache commands: F flush, S stats, I detailled status,
C clear stats, N normal (as opposed to quiet), V verbose, ? help.
If you can read enough of the messages even while MPXPLAY plays
the audio cd, you could check if cdrcache verbose mode has any
interesting messages about what is going on :-). But I think the
basic problem is that MPXPLAY reads the audio CD as raw data
and CDRCACHE has the bad habit to show many messages about that.

I should probably reconfigure the message about raw reads so that
it is only shown in verbose mode. On the other hand, it MIGHT be
of some use to make cdrcache able to cache raw data. Probably not.

Eric ;-)

PS: You can also check if the skipping stops if you do not use
cdrcache at all. If you still have skipping, then maybe your
drive does not want to give you enough raw read speed - maybe
trying to annoy people who rip their audio CD to mp3 or ogg.
Last but not least, high activity on another drive which uses
the same IDE cable as your CD drive could cause slowdown, too.

PPS: For SATA CD/DVD drives and writers, try GCDROM or UIDE.


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